March 100 PAGE Edition!
Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening (GMT).
The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3
Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10
Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) Racing 13
The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now Online 22
Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest Offering 31
Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David Gould 48
The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57
The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60
The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65
In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69
In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73
Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77
AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78
FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR ! 95
Regards,
Jon.
Out now.
"Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]...
13
> The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now Online22
> Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
> Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest Offering31
> Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David Gould48
Quoted text (7 lines)
> March 100 PAGE Edition! > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening (GMT). > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) RacingQuoted text (15 lines)
> The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR ! 95 > > > Regards, > > Jon. > >Steve,
I really enjoyed your GT4 piece--I hope the pictures that ran with it
were ok :) My first experience with the 'USB Flash Drive Thingy', and
an 'interesting' GT4 feature, for sure.
I am looking forward to reading your thoughts on Forza, if it comes out
sometime, that is :)
Thanks. Yes, I will be writing about Forza and other stuff for A.S.S.,
providing I don't p*ss the wrong peeps off.
"Smokin_Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)
> Steve, > > I really enjoyed your GT4 piece--I hope the pictures that ran with it > were ok :) My first experience with the 'USB Flash Drive Thingy', and > an 'interesting' GT4 feature, for sure. > > I am looking forward to reading your thoughts on Forza, if it comes out > sometime, that is :) >funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim view of
FIRSTs rumoured series.
I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from Kaemmer
"The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I think youll
find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game because
it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor the larger
group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games.
Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where he's
talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims.
pez
"Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]...
13
> The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now Online22
> Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
> Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest Offering31
> Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David Gould48
Quoted text (7 lines)
> March 100 PAGE Edition! > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening (GMT). > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) RacingQuoted text (15 lines)
> The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR ! 95 > > > Regards, > > Jon. > >"Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about the game, including
the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying you have the
rights to Lord of the Rings".
What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of our communities
misunderstanding of whats happening.
Hows this?
They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownership of the
copyright.
There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in arms because
(still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been told they can no
longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish it themselves.
The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few words here and
there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out.
And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;)
pez
"Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]...
> funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim view of
> FIRSTs rumoured series.
>
> I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote fromKaemmer
> "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I thinkyoull
> find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the gamebecause
Racing
95
Quoted text (17 lines)
> it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor the larger > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where he's > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > pez > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > > March 100 PAGE Edition! > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening (GMT). > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim)Quoted text (16 lines)
> 13 > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now Online > 22 > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25 > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest Offering > 31 > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David Gould > 48 > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR !Quoted text (9 lines)
> > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jon. > > > > > >To continue the analogy - broadcast networks buy (or license) the right to
show a movie, say LOTR, on TV. But do the original copyright holders--the
people who wrote, financed, produced, directed, finished and distributed the
movie--have the right to complain when the networks alter the "executable"?
That is, when the network re-edits the film for length, or to fit the
screen, or to delete language, or even to 'colorize' a b/w movie? (The
obvious answer is: No, they do not.)
"Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:423ab358$0$57187$[email hidden]...
> "Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about the game,including
of
larger
(GMT).
Online
> > 22
> > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
> > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's LatestOffering
> > 31
> > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend DavidGould
!
Quoted text (27 lines)
> the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying you have the > rights to Lord of the Rings". > > What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of our communities > misunderstanding of whats happening. > > > Hows this? > > They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownership of the > copyright. > > There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in arms because > (still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been told they can no > longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish it themselves. > > The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few words here and > there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out. > > > And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;) > > pez > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]... > > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim viewQuoted text (9 lines)
> > FIRSTs rumoured series. > > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from > Kaemmer > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I think > youll > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game > because > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor theQuoted text (12 lines)
> > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where he's > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > > > pez > > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > > > March 100 PAGE Edition! > > > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday eveningQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 > > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) > Racing > > 13 > > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally nowQuoted text (9 lines)
> > 48 > > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTRQuoted text (12 lines)
> 95 > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jon. > > > > > > > > > > > >that obviously depends on the license that the broadcaster has purchased.
Id guess Steven Spielberg would go ape if a network who had purchased the
rights to show Jurassic Park had filmed a scene with a Giant Panda and
inserted it halfway through the movie to "make it better".
pez
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:4cz_d.83789$[email hidden]...
> To continue the analogy - broadcast networks buy (or license) the right to
> show a movie, say LOTR, on TV. But do the original copyright holders--the
> people who wrote, financed, produced, directed, finished and distributedthe
> movie--have the right to complain when the networks alter the"executable"?
no
he's
GTR
Quoted text (22 lines)
> That is, when the network re-edits the film for length, or to fit the > screen, or to delete language, or even to 'colorize' a b/w movie? (The > obvious answer is: No, they do not.) > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:423ab358$0$57187$[email hidden]... > > "Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about the game, > including > > the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying you have the > > rights to Lord of the Rings". > > > > What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of our communities > > misunderstanding of whats happening. > > > > > > Hows this? > > > > They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownership of the > > copyright. > > > > There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in arms because > > (still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been told they canQuoted text (27 lines)
> > longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish it themselves. > > > > The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few words here and > > there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out. > > > > > > And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;) > > > > pez > > > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]... > > > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim view > of > > > FIRSTs rumoured series. > > > > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from > > Kaemmer > > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I think > > youll > > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game > > because > > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor the > larger > > > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > > > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit whereQuoted text (34 lines)
> > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > > > > > pez > > > > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > > > > March 100 PAGE Edition! > > > > > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening > (GMT). > > > > > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 > > > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > > > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) > > Racing > > > 13 > > > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now > Online > > > 22 > > > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25 > > > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest > Offering > > > 31 > > > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David > Gould > > > 48 > > > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > > > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > > > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > > > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > > > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > > > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > > > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > > > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing withQuoted text (15 lines)
> ! > > 95 > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I wonder if this is how Jar Jar Binks got created....that Giant Panda
analogy..?
Pez wrote:
> that obviously depends on the license that the broadcaster haspurchased.
>
> Id guess Steven Spielberg would go ape if a network who had purchasedthe
> rights to show Jurassic Park had filmed a scene with a Giant Pandaand
right to
> > show a movie, say LOTR, on TV. But do the original copyrightholders--the
> > people who wrote, financed, produced, directed, finished anddistributed
> the
> > movie--have the right to complain when the networks alter the
> "executable"?
> > That is, when the network re-edits the film for length, or to fitthe
> > screen, or to delete language, or even to 'colorize' a b/w movie?(The
> > obvious answer is: No, they do not.)
> >
> > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:423ab358$0$57187$[email hidden]...
> > > "Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about thegame,
> > including
> > > the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying youhave the
> > > rights to Lord of the Rings".
> > >
> > > What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of ourcommunities
> > > misunderstanding of whats happening.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hows this?
> > >
> > > They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownershipof the
> > > copyright.
> > >
> > > There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in armsbecause
> > > (still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been toldthey can
> no
> > > longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish itthemselves.
> > >
> > > The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few wordshere and
dim view
> > of
> > > > FIRSTs rumoured series.
> > > >
> > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quotefrom
> > > Kaemmer
> > > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers".I think
> > > youll
> > > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up thegame
> > > because
> > > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, northe
> > larger
> > > > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games.
> > > >
> > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bitwhere
evening
> > (GMT).
> > > > >
> > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit toPrint 3
> > > > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit toPrint 10
> > > > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks(Sim)
> > > Racing
> > > > 13
> > > > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rallynow
> > Online
> > > > 22
> > > > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
> > > > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA'sLatest
> > Offering
> > > > 31
> > > > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing LegendDavid
> > Gould
> > > > 48
> > > > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods57
with
Quoted text (7 lines)
> inserted it halfway through the movie to "make it better". > > pez > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4cz_d.83789$[email hidden]... > > To continue the analogy - broadcast networks buy (or license) theQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out. > > > > > > > > > And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;) > > > > > > pez > > > > > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]... > > > > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such aQuoted text (10 lines)
> he's > > > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > > > > > > > pez > > > > > > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > > > > > March 100 PAGE Edition! > > > > > > > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of WednesdayQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > > > > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > > > > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > > > > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > > > > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > > > > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > > > > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online RacingQuoted text (16 lines)
> GTR > > ! > > > 95 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Looks good, downloading now.
Hi; just a quick point about FILSCA & FIRST - both, it would appear, are
interested in doing the same thing but - there are 2 differences here - the
first, mmm, is that FILSCA is free and the second, moe importanly, is that
filsca's members are affiliated leagues - who happen to be the back bone of
the sim community, and have been since day one of online racing. FIRST's
model, if rumour is true (and who knows?) is to replace the league managers
(that is, guys like us) with a corporation. With SimBin's dedicated server
issues, it would seem that the small league owners are being slowly squeezed
out in favour of corporate run leagues - which, as it happens, was
precisely why filsca was founded to begin with.
It's just a hobby, yes, and it's just for fun, yes, but there's probably
money to be made from monopolising the leagues and who runs them; right now,
they are run by guys like John from Comet, for free, and for the hell of it.
FIRST's model would change this forever. And we all lose in that event ...
"Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (52 lines)
> funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim view of > FIRSTs rumoured series. > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from > Kaemmer > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I think > youll > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game > because > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor the larger > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where he's > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > pez > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... >> March 100 PAGE Edition! >> >> Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening (GMT). >> >> The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3 >> Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 >> Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) Racing > 13 >> The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now Online > 22 >> Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25 >> Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest Offering > 31 >> Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David Gould > 48 >> The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 >> The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 >> The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 >> In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 >> In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 >> Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 >> AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 >> FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR ! >> 95 >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Jon. >> >> > >In fact, most broadcasts of movies on, say, TNT, have their credits pages
either reduced or double-speeded (I know, I get pissed everytime, I'm a
credits junkie). And I recall the whole episode of Magnum when Selleck was
angered by the fact that his voice sounded too squeaky - only to find out
the channel that was re-running magnum had speeded the episodes up by a few
percent.
"Smokin_Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (152 lines)
>I wonder if this is how Jar Jar Binks got created....that Giant Panda > analogy..? > Pez wrote: >> that obviously depends on the license that the broadcaster has > purchased. >> >> Id guess Steven Spielberg would go ape if a network who had purchased > the >> rights to show Jurassic Park had filmed a scene with a Giant Panda > and >> inserted it halfway through the movie to "make it better". >> >> pez >> >> "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:4cz_d.83789$[email hidden]... >> > To continue the analogy - broadcast networks buy (or license) the > right to >> > show a movie, say LOTR, on TV. But do the original copyright > holders--the >> > people who wrote, financed, produced, directed, finished and > distributed >> the >> > movie--have the right to complain when the networks alter the >> "executable"? >> > That is, when the network re-edits the film for length, or to fit > the >> > screen, or to delete language, or even to 'colorize' a b/w movie? > (The >> > obvious answer is: No, they do not.) >> > >> > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:423ab358$0$57187$[email hidden]... >> > > "Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about the > game, >> > including >> > > the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying you > have the >> > > rights to Lord of the Rings". >> > > >> > > What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of our > communities >> > > misunderstanding of whats happening. >> > > >> > > >> > > Hows this? >> > > >> > > They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownership > of the >> > > copyright. >> > > >> > > There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in arms > because >> > > (still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been told > they can >> no >> > > longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish it > themselves. >> > > >> > > The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few words > here and >> > > there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out. >> > > >> > > >> > > And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;) >> > > >> > > pez >> > > >> > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]... >> > > > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a > dim view >> > of >> > > > FIRSTs rumoured series. >> > > > >> > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote > from >> > > Kaemmer >> > > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". > I think >> > > youll >> > > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the > game >> > > because >> > > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor > the >> > larger >> > > > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. >> > > > >> > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit > where >> he's >> > > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. >> > > > >> > > > pez >> > > > >> > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... >> > > > > March 100 PAGE Edition! >> > > > > >> > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday > evening >> > (GMT). >> > > > > >> > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to > Print 3 >> > > > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to > Print 10 >> > > > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks > (Sim) >> > > Racing >> > > > 13 >> > > > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally > now >> > Online >> > > > 22 >> > > > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25 >> > > > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's > Latest >> > Offering >> > > > 31 >> > > > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend > David >> > Gould >> > > > 48 >> > > > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods > 57 >> > > > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 >> > > > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 >> > > > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 >> > > > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 >> > > > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 >> > > > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 >> > > > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing > with >> GTR >> > ! >> > > 95 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Regards, >> > > > > >> > > > > Jon. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >Pez,
That is my mistake, and I was abbreviating rec.auto.simulators. (RAS)
According to my Google Beta Groups page, this is a Google 'Group'. My
apologies for the confusion.
Ask Marty Scorcese about that....
"Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:423ac242$0$57167$[email hidden]...
to
> > show a movie, say LOTR, on TV. But do the original copyrightholders--the
the
> > > copyright.
> > >
> > > There are guys out there at the moment who seem to be up in armsbecause
> > > (still running with the LOTR analogy here) they have been told theycan
> no
> > > longer change the 2nd chapter of the book and publish it themselves.
> > >
> > > The Pits would just be releasing code that modifies a few words hereand
view
> > of
> > > > FIRSTs rumoured series.
> > > >
> > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from
> > > Kaemmer
> > > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". Ithink
3
Quoted text (11 lines)
> that obviously depends on the license that the broadcaster has purchased. > > Id guess Steven Spielberg would go ape if a network who had purchased the > rights to show Jurassic Park had filmed a scene with a Giant Panda and > inserted it halfway through the movie to "make it better". > > pez > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4cz_d.83789$[email hidden]... > > To continue the analogy - broadcast networks buy (or license) the rightQuoted text (22 lines)
> > people who wrote, financed, produced, directed, finished and distributed > the > > movie--have the right to complain when the networks alter the > "executable"? > > That is, when the network re-edits the film for length, or to fit the > > screen, or to delete language, or even to 'colorize' a b/w movie? (The > > obvious answer is: No, they do not.) > > > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:423ab358$0$57187$[email hidden]... > > > "Buying the code and claiming rights to everything about the game, > > including > > > the EULA is akin to buying Tolkiens typewriter and saying you have the > > > rights to Lord of the Rings". > > > > > > What a load of rubbish, which i think sums up part of our communities > > > misunderstanding of whats happening. > > > > > > > > > Hows this? > > > > > > They buy the original Lord of the Rings manuscript and ownership ofQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > there, and im quite interested to see how that pans out. > > > > > > > > > And since when was R.A.S a Google group? ;) > > > > > > pez > > > > > > "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]... > > > > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dimQuoted text (21 lines)
> > > youll > > > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game > > > because > > > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor the > > larger > > > > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > > > > > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where > he's > > > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > > > > > > > pez > > > > > > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > > > > > March 100 PAGE Edition! > > > > > > > > > > Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday evening > > (GMT). > > > > > > > > > > The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to PrintQuoted text (40 lines)
> > > > > Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10 > > > > > Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim) > > > Racing > > > > 13 > > > > > The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally now > > Online > > > > 22 > > > > > Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25 > > > > > Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's Latest > > Offering > > > > 31 > > > > > Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend David > > Gould > > > > 48 > > > > > The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > > > > > The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > > > > > The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > > > > > In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > > > > > In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > > > > > Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > > > > > AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > > > > > FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with > GTR > > ! > > > 95 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Jon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Alex,
I think you need an inteview w. D. Kaemmer as to his intentions. A
statement from him, at the very least.
"alex martini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:IuA_d.35783$[email hidden]...
> Hi; just a quick point about FILSCA & FIRST - both, it would appear, are
> interested in doing the same thing but - there are 2 differences here -the
> first, mmm, is that FILSCA is free and the second, moe importanly, is that
> filsca's members are affiliated leagues - who happen to be the back boneof
> the sim community, and have been since day one of online racing. FIRST's
> model, if rumour is true (and who knows?) is to replace the leaguemanagers
> (that is, guys like us) with a corporation. With SimBin's dedicated server
> issues, it would seem that the small league owners are being slowlysqueezed
> out in favour of corporate run leagues - which, as it happens, was
> precisely why filsca was founded to begin with.
>
> It's just a hobby, yes, and it's just for fun, yes, but there's probably
> money to be made from monopolising the leagues and who runs them; rightnow,
> they are run by guys like John from Comet, for free, and for the hell ofit.
> FIRST's model would change this forever. And we all lose in that event ...
>
> "Pez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:423aaaa4$0$57184$[email hidden]...
> > funny that ASS, being the mouthpiece for FILSCA, takes such a dim viewof
larger
(GMT).
> >>
> >> The News with Jon Denton - All the Sim-News that will Fit to Print 3
> >> Rumors with Niles Anders - Ugly Twisted Rumours Unfit to Print 10
> >> Turn One - World Series by Renault Star Alx Danielsson Talks (Sim)Racing
> > 13
> >> The Frontstraight - Revolution is Coming: Richard Burns Rally nowOnline
> > 22
> >> Turn Two - GTP with Dom Duhan. & Brad McGiveron 25
> >> Turn Three - NSR - Smokin Bob's Study and Review of EA's LatestOffering
> > 31
> >> Turn Four - Jon Denton Talks Setups with Hillclimbing Legend DavidGould
Quoted text (9 lines)
> > FIRSTs rumoured series. > > > > I also dont think Niles understood what was meant in the quote from > > Kaemmer > > "The real problem is that we're reaching the wrong customers". I think > > youll > > find that he's referring to the kids in ToysRUs who pick up the game > > because > > it says NASCAR on it, not the small band of merry modders, nor theQuoted text (12 lines)
> > group of hardcore sim racers who partake in these games. > > > > Great interview with Alx Danielsson, especially like the bit where he's > > talking about not using the autoclutch in his sims. > > > > pez > > > > "Shrapnel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:irUZd.339$[email hidden]... > >> March 100 PAGE Edition! > >> > >> Download from http://www.autosimsport.com as of Wednesday eveningQuoted text (21 lines)
> > 48 > >> The F1 ChampASS column - Paul Nortness Names the Top 10 Mods 57 > >> The Fifth Column - Glass Houses & Stones 60 > >> The Backstraight - Hungarian SimWorld - Misu Goulash! 65 > >> In the Windshield - COMET GTR Season Preview 69 > >> In The Mirror - FILSCA Race Results & Stats For February. 73 > >> Filsca Driver of the Month - Andras Kiraly 77 > >> AutoSimSport-Italia -Brought To You By: www.m4driving.it 78 > >> FILSCA Online Newsletter - Petition for Better Online Racing with GTR ! > >> 95 > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Jon. > >> > >> > > > > > >Yes, Steve working on that; and, at the same time, I'm working on an
exclusive interview with Bin Laden who, as it turns out, is far more
accessible! ... the short of the thing is, FIRST are not talking. Why, I
have no idea ...
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:4bI_d.140661$[email hidden]...
