Re: Are there any good off road games due out ?

The demo you tried is a public beta demo. A regular demo with the final code is supposed to be released later on. No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the manufacturer's specs. You can also customize them in career mode with dozens of performance parts which turn them into full blown race vehicles. The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. This will be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes because SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a realistic setting, then it's a sim IMO. John O' Keefe (VROC) is the producer and the multiplayer is excellent. Graphics are awesome, tracks are great, and the beta testers will also design some tracks to be released when the game goes on sale. It's supposed to ship with the editor too. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:23:24 -0400, David L. Cook <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >4X4 Evolution by Terminal Reality is due out 10/31/00. You can get ademo here > >http://www.avault.com/pcrl/demo_temp.asp?genre=sims_racing&game=4x4evo&size=22.09 > > I tried that one, it has got ARCADE written all over it. Not a bad > game, if you like arcade racers. It reminded me very much of Motocross > Madness in a 4x4. > > Andre

On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 08:02:37 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The demo you tried is a public beta demo. A regular demo with the final code >is supposed to be released later on.<snip> >David G Fisher Ok, sounds promising! I its possible to alter the center of gravity in the demo too? I allready deleted the demo, but if this is allready possible I'l download it again to give it another try. Andre

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be > about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the > manufacturer's specs. So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) > The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. Thiswill > be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac > users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes because > SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could > frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a realistic > setting, then it's a sim IMO. Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane, LeadFoot and 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

David G Fisher wrote in message ... >John O' Keefe (VROC) is the producer and the multiplayer is excellent. >Graphics are awesome, tracks are great, and the beta testers will also >design some tracks to be released when the game goes on sale. It's supposed >to ship with the editor too. The graphics are the best I've seen in a racing game, better than Powerslide and Rally2k. I hope you're right about the center-of-gravity thing; I did get the feeling that there was a decent physics model underneath the hood, so if we and/or they can tweak the parameters a little more this could be a real winner. Bendito;

"Loosay2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What is the next off road or rally game due out during the next fewmonths. The BEST off road sim is already out. Yes I spend more time off the track than on it in GPL!(another thread corrupted! hehe) dave henrie Driver #3 in a two man team....

I have not been able to get SODA to run under WIN98 and it also won't recognize my MSFF Wheel. What could be the problem anyone ? My System: Win 98 SE--all current patches and fixes. PII350 128 PC 100 Ram V5 PCI SBLIVE! Value 19" Viewsonic PS 790 FPS 2000 Digital Speakers "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gict5.216842$[email hidden]...

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> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be > > about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the > > manufacturer's specs. > > So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) > > > > > The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. This > will > > be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac > > users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes because > > SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could > > frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a

realistic > > setting, then it's a sim IMO. > > > Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best > realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real > "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane, LeadFootand

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> 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't

realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gict5.216842$[email hidden]... > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be > > about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the > > manufacturer's specs. > > So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) I stay away from the Explorer's. :-) > > The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. This > will > > be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac > > users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes because > > SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could > > frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to arealistic > > setting, then it's a sim IMO. > > > Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best > realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real > "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane, LeadFootand > 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. I don't know anything at all about Insane, but Leadfoot should be good. David G Fisher

It can't be changed in the public beta demo. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ok, sounds promising! I its possible to alter the center of gravity in > the demo too? I allready deleted the demo, but if this is allready > possible I'l download it again to give it another try. > > Andre

SODA works ok on my W98 system. I use the full screen shortcut (does NOT have the /W after the executable). You could also try using /S after the .EXE, which tells it to not even try looking for a Rendition card. Don't expect FF in the game, it is an old implementation of FF and incompatible with modern FF protocol. But I can play SODA with my ActLabs FF wheel, without FF, only centering force. The game locks up when I toggle on the FF option on the controller options menu, though. If you do get it running, expect to turn down some of the graphics detail to maintain a good framerate. I have to on my PIII450. Good luck! Check out http://soda.trackclub.net/ to download addtional tracks! "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%lft5.59785$[email hidden]...

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> I have not been able to get SODA to run under WIN98 and it also won't > recognize my MSFF Wheel. What could be the problem anyone ? > My System: > Win 98 SE--all current patches and fixes. > PII350 > 128 PC 100 Ram > V5 PCI > SBLIVE! Value > 19" Viewsonic PS 790 > FPS 2000 Digital Speakers

I was never able to get that to run on my Athlon under Win98/Geforce. I think it's the Geforce killing it :( -Larry Alex Kihurani wrote:

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> The best off-road game is SODA Off-Road racing. You can get it in bargain > bins for like $10 now. It's very old, but it has VERY good physics, even by > todays standards. The physics are even better than Dirt Track Racing! > > Thanks, > Alex > Loosay2 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >> What is the next off road or rally game due out during the next few > > months.

Same problem here. I finally gave up :( -Larry Doug Hook wrote:

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> I have not been able to get SODA to run under WIN98 and it also won't > recognize my MSFF Wheel. What could be the problem anyone ? > My System: > Win 98 SE--all current patches and fixes. > PII350 > 128 PC 100 Ram > V5 PCI > SBLIVE! Value > 19" Viewsonic PS 790 > FPS 2000 Digital Speakers > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Gict5.216842$[email hidden]... > >> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote >> >>> No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be >>> about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the >>> manufacturer's specs. >> >> So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) >> >> >> >> >>> The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. This >> >> will >> >>> be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac >>> users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes because >>> SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could >>> frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a >> > realistic > >>> setting, then it's a sim IMO. >> >> >> Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best >> realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real >> "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane, LeadFoot > > and > >> 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >> -- May the Downforce be with you... >> -- http://www.WeRace.net >> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't > > realise > >> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. >> >> >>

since LEADFOOT is on hold... might check out a game called INSANE... there is a demo out. pretty cool Larry wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>Same problem here. I finally gave up :( > >-Larry > >Doug Hook wrote: > >> I have not been able to get SODA to run under WIN98 and it also won't >> recognize my MSFF Wheel. What could be the problem anyone ? >> My System: >> Win 98 SE--all current patches and fixes. >> PII350 >> 128 PC 100 Ram >> V5 PCI >> SBLIVE! Value >> 19" Viewsonic PS 790 >> FPS 2000 Digital Speakers >> >> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Gict5.216842$[email hidden]... >> >>> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote >>> >>>> No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will be >>>> about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the >>>> manufacturer's specs. >>> >>> So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity. This >>> >>> will >>> >>>> be able to be changed though to whatever setting you like by PC and Mac >>>> users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes

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>>>> SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could >>>> frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a >>> >> realistic >> >>>> setting, then it's a sim IMO. >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best >>> realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real >>> "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane, LeadFoot >> >> and >> >>> 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >>> -- May the Downforce be with you... >>> -- http://www.WeRace.net >>> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't >> >> realise >> >>> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. >>> >>> >>> >

Nice game, nice physics, absolutely horrible controller procedures. I've yet to get it working with a wheel. -Larry "Rod Smelser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:S0uF5.15378$[email hidden]...

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> since LEADFOOT is on hold... > might check out a game called INSANE... > there is a demo out. pretty cool > > > Larry wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >Same problem here. I finally gave up :( > > > >-Larry > > > >Doug Hook wrote: > > > >> I have not been able to get SODA to run under WIN98 and it also won't > >> recognize my MSFF Wheel. What could be the problem anyone ? > >> My System: > >> Win 98 SE--all current patches and fixes. > >> PII350 > >> 128 PC 100 Ram > >> V5 PCI > >> SBLIVE! Value > >> 19" Viewsonic PS 790 > >> FPS 2000 Digital Speakers > >> > >> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:Gict5.216842$[email hidden]... > >> > >>> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > >>> > >>>> No, it's not a pure sim, but it's not pure arcade either. There will

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> >>>> about 70 real SUV's and trucks whose physics are designed by the > >>>> manufacturer's specs. > >>> > >>> So we'll see blown tyres when we race those SUV's? <vbg> :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> The only thing not realistic is the setting for center of gravity.

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> >>>> users. The gravity is set lower by default for gameplay purposes > because > >>>> SUV' s with big tires and high suspensions are easy to roll and could > >>>> frustrate a lot of gamers. If you set the center of gravity to a > >>> > >> realistic > >> > >>>> setting, then it's a sim IMO. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks for the info. I still love SODA, it's for me the second best > >>> realistic game after GPL in terms of physics, so I'm awaiting a real > >>> "off-road" title with graphics that are fun to watch. Insane,

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> >> > >> and > >> > >>> 4x4 Evo are on my list, I'll buy the best one for my taste. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > >>> -- May the Downforce be with you... > >>> -- http://www.WeRace.net > >>> -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't > >> > >> realise > >> > >>> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > >