I haven't read ALL the posts in the thread below about the
'Modern-F1-sim-with-gpl-engine(HOAX)' but to my eye the car in that MPEG
is the (beautiful) Jordan 191, painted in 2000 Ferrari colours. It just
doesn't make sense!
I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle
season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing...
overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and
Mansell!
:o))
AND also... if it's created such a stir in so many people perhaps
Papy/Sierra should take note. Not such a bad ploy by Richey :)
Rob Swindells wrote:
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> I haven't read ALL the posts in the thread below about the > 'Modern-F1-sim-with-gpl-engine(HOAX)' but to my eye the car in that MPEG > is the (beautiful) Jordan 191, painted in 2000 Ferrari colours. It just > doesn't make sense! > > I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle > season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing... > overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and > Mansell! > > :o))A new sim with "Prost, Senna and Mansell!" alone would be GREAT in my
opinion:-)
Thanks,
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> I haven't read ALL the posts in the thread below about the > 'Modern-F1-sim-with-gpl-engine(HOAX)' but to my eye the car in that MPEG > is the (beautiful) Jordan 191, painted in 2000 Ferrari colours. It just > doesn't make sense! > > I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle > season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing... > overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and > Mansell! > > :o)) > >Rob.....
I'm sure Papy is "taking note."
They are probably ecstatic at the idea of selling maybe 300 or 400 copies of
a "modern" F-1 simulation! That's the size of the current GPL online
community.
Tom Pabst
PS: I'm not trying to be a smart ass at your expense, Rob. I just wanted
to underscore a point! We (the sim racing community) need to "wake up" to
the fact that we are *not* a "marketing force to be reckoned with!" As way
too many "members" of this community seem to think.
We either need to change something (find a way to influence the "gaming"
community as to which racing sims are good .....which are not)....or get our
own "universal" racing simulation and let the "talent" that exists in this
community create tracks, cars, car physics, UI interface....all of it, as we
want and need them to be. Wouldn't it be cool if we could do that? I'm
afraid it might be too late....since the PC gaming industry is on it's last
breath.
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> AND also... if it's created such a stir in so many people perhaps > Papy/Sierra should take note. Not such a bad ploy by Richey :) > > Rob Swindells wrote: > > > I haven't read ALL the posts in the thread below about the > > 'Modern-F1-sim-with-gpl-engine(HOAX)' but to my eye the car in that MPEG > > is the (beautiful) Jordan 191, painted in 2000 Ferrari colours. It just > > doesn't make sense! > > > > I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle > > season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing... > > overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and > > Mansell! > > > > :o)) >
> A new sim with "Prost, Senna and Mansell!" alone would be GREAT in my
> opinion:-)Dont forget Piquet, for his stupid jokes...
> Or were you only born in the 1980's?
ehehe, he is, give or take a year :)
-- Sjon
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I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle season of
F1.
(unsnip)
You ARE joking, aren't you, Rob?
Or were you only born in the 1980's?
The year 1991 wasn't the pinnacle season of ANYTHING, let alone F1!! :-)
Rob Swindells wrote:
I want to see a F1 sim with Turbo cars! Can't we have turbo's?
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> I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle > season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing... > overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and > Mansell! > > :o)) >"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote
> They are probably ecstatic at the idea of selling maybe 300 or 400 copiesof
> a "modern" F-1 simulation! That's the size of the current GPL online
> community.
It's much bigger than this. 10x easily.
> PS: I'm not trying to be a smart ass at your expense, Rob. I just wanted
> to underscore a point! We (the sim racing community) need to "wake up" to
> the fact that we are *not* a "marketing force to be reckoned with!" Asway
> too many "members" of this community seem to think.
Why do you assume that the people outside our community have no interest in
such title? It would sell quite well in Europe I'm sure, especially if done
the correct way to give the less-serious virtual motorsport drivers the
chance to be as fast with different aids and tools.
Cost of the title :100$+. No need for distribution or production, it's sold
exclusively online. No box, PDF manual. Interesting way to get around the
problem of the mass market.
> since the PC gaming industry is on it's last
> breath
There will always be people who want to do something else on their computer.
On the opposite, I would say. Even if the console attracts 10x more people
in 5years, the PC will also increase in numbers of people who want games.
Maybe not 10x, but it will increase. And it will increase in niche markets
also. Like us.
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 21:23:04 GMT, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote:
The fact that GPL didn't sell well doesn't mean anything ofcourse.
The reasons why it didn't sell are obvious and have been discussed
often enough.
>Tom Pabst
<snip>
>community create tracks, cars, car physics, UI interface....all of it, as we
>want and need them to be. Wouldn't it be cool if we could do that? I'm
>afraid it might be too late....since the PC gaming industry is on it's last
>breath.
What makes you think so?
Andre
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>Rob..... > >I'm sure Papy is "taking note." > >They are probably ecstatic at the idea of selling maybe 300 or 400 copies of >a "modern" F-1 simulation! That's the size of the current GPL online >community.ROFLMFAO
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> (snip)
> I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle seasonof
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> F1. > (unsnip) > > You ARE joking, aren't you, Rob? > Or were you only born in the 1980's? > > The year 1991 wasn't the pinnacle season of ANYTHING, let alone F1!! :-) > > > Rob Swindells wrote: > >
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> The year 1991 wasn't the pinnacle season of ANYTHING, let alone F1!! :-)
>
>
Well it was pretty interesting for me, but I can't discuss that here;)
Chris
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I should probably clarify, since I think Rob was referring to me in his
post.
For me, 1991 was the pinnacle of "Modern" F1 - that is, cars with wings,
post-Cosworth DFV era. There were many great drivers, a few teams with the
ability to win, interesting technical differences between cars (V8, V10, and
V12 engines, semi-auto trannies on only two cars), and the cars still ran on
slicks with a proper wide-track suspension. I'm only now *just* getting
used to the look of the narrow cars.
If Crammond would re-do GP1 with the GP3 (or GP4, assuming the game engine
actually gets the needed changes) engine, I would positively swoon :) Not
that I'd mind a mid-to-late 70's game, or something from around '83 or so,
but we know they'd never happen - there just aren't enough people interested
in historical sims. '91 might have a shot, though, because the names are so
recognizeable still.
Rick
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> (snip)
> I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle seasonof
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> F1. > (unsnip) > > You ARE joking, aren't you, Rob? > Or were you only born in the 1980's? > > The year 1991 wasn't the pinnacle season of ANYTHING, let alone F1!! :-) > > > Rob Swindells wrote: > >
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I am of the same thought as you Rob, right down to which car it is...or at
least i was!
I did some research last night, it strongly resembles the J191 but it is
actually more like the Lotus No.12 Johnny Herbert drove sponsored by
Castrol...circa 93/94.
Larger endplates, lowers more behind the driver.... less rear bodywork than
the J191.... It must be the Lotus.It must be.
I actually have both Tamiya models of the J191 and this Lotus and I've just
been staring a them for hours.. It must be the Lotus... I can't be
wrong...hehehe
All in all though, the way it is presented is very strange... I still don't
believe this is a sim in the making..... not until we get some better
evidence then a well crafted Truespace movie.
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> I haven't read ALL the posts in the thread below about the > 'Modern-F1-sim-with-gpl-engine(HOAX)' but to my eye the car in that MPEG > is the (beautiful) Jordan 191, painted in 2000 Ferrari colours. It just > doesn't make sense! > > I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle > season of F1. Together with '90 you had some fine motoracing... > overtaking, slick tyres, pre-qualifing! Not to mention Prost, Senna and > Mansell! > > :o))
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> (snip)
> I have to agree with whoever it was who said 1991 was the pinnacle seasonof
Yes it was! it was the pinnacle of Irish football and beer sales! as we were
all still too drunk to realise Italy sent us home the previous year :-)
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> F1. > (unsnip) > > You ARE joking, aren't you, Rob? > Or were you only born in the 1980's? > > The year 1991 wasn't the pinnacle season of ANYTHING, let alone F1!! :-) >
"Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> If Crammond would re-do GP1 with the GP3 (or GP4, assuming the game engine
> actually gets the needed changes) engine, I would positively swoon :) Not
> that I'd mind a mid-to-late 70's game, or something from around '83 or so,
> but we know they'd never happen - there just aren't enough peopleinterested
> in historical sims. '91 might have a shot, though, because the names areso
> recognizeable still.
>
> Rick First, with the exception of ID, it seems very few developers want to
revisit their pasts. 2nd. Just saw a show about James Hunt in 1976. I was
impressed how the '76 Mclaren resembled the Indy 500 machines of that time.
The Mac that Hunt drove looked very similar to the Donahue/Revson Champ car.
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:-)
Her name? He said pretty interesting.. so the question is "What's their
names?" :)
