After 2 years I have still failed to memorize T1 !!!!!!
woohoo then im better than u. i remember T1 and T2.
:)
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>>After an intensive week at the 'Ring (8:27.51, yay!), I managed last night
>>to run through the entire circuit in my mind. Every corner is nowchiselled
>>into my brain, the neural networks have reorganised accordingly. In a wayI
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>>do have a photographic memory, but it takes about 30 "exposures" to create >>something distinct on the "photograph". Some people have the gift of doing >>the same after only 1 "exposure". So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring >>fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of >>various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method? > >After 2 years I have still failed to memorize T1 !!!!!!I still use the "holy shit where did that corner come from !!! " method of
lapping the ring ;)
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Bendito <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> After an intensive week at the 'Ring (8:27.51, yay!), I managed last night
> to run through the entire circuit in my mind. Every corner is now
chiselled
> into my brain, the neural networks have reorganised accordingly. In a way
I
> do have a photographic memory, but it takes about 30 "exposures" to create
> something distinct on the "photograph". Some people have the gift of doing
> the same after only 1 "exposure". So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring
> fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of
> various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method?
>
> Bendito;
>
>
After an intensive week at the 'Ring (8:27.51, yay!), I managed last night
to run through the entire circuit in my mind. Every corner is now chiselled
into my brain, the neural networks have reorganised accordingly. In a way I
do have a photographic memory, but it takes about 30 "exposures" to create
something distinct on the "photograph". Some people have the gift of doing
the same after only 1 "exposure". So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring
fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of
various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method?
Bendito;
When you ran through the circuit in your mind, did you spin?
Anyway, I don't know the ring well enough to say draw the track map from
memory. I seem to remember it in groups of turns and scenery clues, seems
to work ok though. I've driven probably less than fifty laps there though.
"Bendito" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> After an intensive week at the 'Ring (8:27.51, yay!), I managed last night
> to run through the entire circuit in my mind. Every corner is nowchiselled
> into my brain, the neural networks have reorganised accordingly. In a wayI
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> do have a photographic memory, but it takes about 30 "exposures" to create > something distinct on the "photograph". Some people have the gift of doing > the same after only 1 "exposure". So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring > fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of > various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method? > > Bendito; > >"Bendito" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Do you have the 'Ring fully memorised?
I doubt I could list you by memory all the turns one after the other (I
especially can't remember all the corners in the 2/3rd part of the circuit a
little after the Karrussell. There is 3 similar section in that portion of
the circuit with 3 elevations going up/right, with a final drop to the left.
> Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of
> various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method?
Visual clues are for me the trick. I have about 5-6 places that when I pass
them I know exactly the next 15-20corners, how to take them, what
gear/speed/weight shifting. I'll evently find myself on a next *track
marker*, remembering the next 20 corners.
Actually it goes something like this :
1) Start/finish line until Flugplatz
2) Flugplatz until Adenauer-Forst
3) Adenauer-Forst until Kesselchen
4) Kesselchen until Wippermann
5) Wippermann until Schwalbenschwanz
6) Schwalbenschwanz until the start/finish line
Those are my track markers :)
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Simon Brown wrote in message ...
>When you ran through the circuit in your mind, did you spin?
Funnily enough, no! I actually did the circuit in less than 5 minutes.
Can I submit this time to GPLRank? :)
>Anyway, I don't know the ring well enough to say draw the track map from
>memory. I seem to remember it in groups of turns and scenery clues, seems
>to work ok though. I've driven probably less than fifty laps there though.
Oh, I couldn't draw the track map, because that requires distance
judgement (how long are the straights, radius of the turns), not just the
appearance of the turns in my visual memory.
Bendito;
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:42:47 +1000, "Bendito"
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I have the track well memorized until I reach Wippermann.
Something about the section between that corner and Pflantzgarten
seems to induce blankness in my mind. In general, though, each of my
laps is divided into several "Oh shit, don't screw up!" points:
1. Flugplatz-"Get that landing right or it's all over!"
2. Fuchsrohre-"Don't bottom out or you'll hit that tree!"
3. Ex-Muhle-"Easy on the gas or you'll spin out!"
4. Kesselchen-"Do NOT take the mini-Masta too fast and bounce off the
mountainside!"
5. Karussell-"A mistake here means two things: I've lost time, but
even worse, the replay will look awful!"
6. Wippermann-Pflantzgarten-"I hate a good reducing-radius corner."
And finally...
7. Tiergarten-"I don't care how ugly it looks nor how fast I can take
it on spoiled laps. I'm going to finish this one cleanly!"
Martin
Long Live Nigel Mansell!
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>After an intensive week at the 'Ring (8:27.51, yay!), I managed last night >to run through the entire circuit in my mind. Every corner is now chiselled >into my brain, the neural networks have reorganised accordingly. In a way I >do have a photographic memory, but it takes about 30 "exposures" to create >something distinct on the "photograph". Some people have the gift of doing >the same after only 1 "exposure". So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring >fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of >various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method?Martin Ursua wrote in message <39b83649.10120036@news>...
>1. Flugplatz-"Get that landing right or it's all over!"
Argh! I've lost count of the number of times I've screwed up the landing.
But if I take it conservatively, I feel that I've lost a lot of time.
>2. Fuchsrohre-"Don't bottom out or you'll hit that tree!"
Hmm, I don't recall having too much problems with this section.
>3. Ex-Muhle-"Easy on the gas or you'll spin out!"
And be ready to counter-steer to the left!
>4. Kesselchen-"Do NOT take the mini-Masta too fast and bounce off the
>mountainside!"
Scene of my most spectacular accidents.
>5. Karussell-"A mistake here means two things: I've lost time, but
>even worse, the replay will look awful!"
Yes, very embarassing! :)
>6. Wippermann-Pflantzgarten-"I hate a good reducing-radius corner."
And altitude reducing...
>7. Tiergarten-"I don't care how ugly it looks nor how fast I can take
>it on spoiled laps. I'm going to finish this one cleanly!"
Correction! *This* is the scene of my most spectacular accidents! :)
Bendito;
Exactly how I feel at most of the tracks!
Marko
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do
> really well for the remainder of the lap. Once I start a new lap, though,
> the pressure starts building again, and by the latter stages of the lap,
> assuming I haven't made an error, I'm literally shaking at the wheel,
> thinking of all the ways I can screw up and praying that I can get through
> what remains of the lap, which makes me more tentative and less likely to
> get a good time. You need to sit down and just run 10 laps withoutthinking
> about it too much, easier said than done.
>
> Bendito;
>
>
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> >Well I have most of it memorized (I've watched InCar956 about 50 times > now). > >However I still need visual clues in certian sections...between the > Karusell > >and the Klien Karusell. After I go through it once I can do it again on > the > >next lap pretty easily. The rest of the track I know pretty well though. > Now > >if I can only keep from thinking so much when i drive that track I might > get > >under 9mins. > > Yes, "thinking too much" can be a real problem. After I stuff up a lap, > spin out or whatever, I find that I'm relieved of a lot of pressure, and> >After 2 years I have still failed to memorize T1 !!!!!!
>
>"the dude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> woohoo then im better than u. i remember T1 and T2.
>
Even on the second lap?
OK, I didn't write this but I will probably always remember this post
and who wrote it. Went back at Deja.com and found it. I hope he
doesn't mind me re-posting it for him.
Can you see the track as you read it?
Randy
Graeme wrote:
Hmm, off the top of my head... :-)
Straight, slow left, long right, straight, slow left, slow left,
right kink, medium right, left kink, slow left-right chicane, right,
left, short straight, slow right, slow downhill left,
kinked straight over two hills (flugplatz), fast right, gradual fast
left, downhill straight with right kink, medium left, slow right, fast
downhill esses, fast uphill double apex left,
right-left-right chicane, kinked straight, medium double-apex left,
slow left, right kink, slow left, left-right flick, medium double-apex
right, downhill straight, slow left, slow
right, downhill straight, slow left, slow uphill right, straight,
quick left flick, short straight, slow right, long fast left curve,
quick right flick, short straight, quick right-left flick,
medium double apex left, short straight, slow right, short straight,
right hairpin, short straight, left hairpin (karrussel), right flick,
short straight, quick left, slow left-right, slow
downhill right, medium left-right, slow left-right, short straight,
slow uphill right, ... **not sure for a while** ... short straight,
slow uphill left, slow sharp downhill left, short
straight, medium double-apex right, medium left, medium downhill
left, short straight, fast esses, slow right over bridge, slow left,
short straight, slow left (kleines karrussel)
short straight, slow right, medium right, looooong straight, fast
left, short straight, chicane, straight.
Wow, I'm a lot sadder than I thought :-)
Seriously though the Ring isn't about knowing things by heart, but
basically to have a good idea what's coming next. Sort of like when
people say "I can get there, but I couldn't
tell you how I do it" :-)
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On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:42:47 +1000, "Bendito"
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>So what about you? Do you have the 'Ring >fully memorised? Or do you need "visual clues" which unlock the memory of >various portions of the track - a sort of "recall as you go" method? > >Bendito; > >[email hidden] (Randy Riggs) writes:
> OK, I didn't write this but I will probably always remember this post
> and who wrote it. Went back at Deja.com and found it. I hope he
> doesn't mind me re-posting it for him.
>
> Can you see the track as you read it?
Yes, 600 laps seems to be enough... The only problem is that
this description (which is almost identical to my burned-in
copy of the track) only has ~100 turns, not 170+ :-)
^^^^
right :-)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
don't remember this one
> slow uphill right, ... **not sure for a while** ... short straight, ^^^^
ok here as far as I remember..
> slow uphill left, slow sharp downhill left, short
> straight, medium double-apex right, medium left, medium downhill
> left, short straight, fast esses, slow right over bridge, slow left, ^^^
love that jump...
> short straight, slow left (kleines karrussel)
> short straight, slow right, medium right, looooong straight, fast
> left, short straight, chicane, straight.
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Mats Lofkvist
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> Graeme wrote: > > Hmm, off the top of my head... :-) > > Straight, slow left, long right, straight, slow left, slow left, > right kink, medium right, left kink, slow left-right chicane, right, > left, short straight, slow right, slow downhill left, > kinked straight over two hills (flugplatz), fast right, gradual fast > left, downhill straight with right kink, medium left, slow right, fast > downhill esses, fast uphill double apex left, > right-left-right chicane, kinked straight, medium double-apex left, > slow left, right kink, slow left, left-right flick, medium double-apexQuoted text (8 lines)
> right, downhill straight, slow left, slow > right, downhill straight, slow left, slow uphill right, straight, > quick left flick, short straight, slow right, long fast left curve, > quick right flick, short straight, quick right-left flick, > medium double apex left, short straight, slow right, short straight, > right hairpin, short straight, left hairpin (karrussel), right flick, > short straight, quick left, slow left-right, slow > downhill right, medium left-right, slow left-right, short straight,He must not consider 70 of the turns as turns! :-)
SLG
Mats Lofkvist <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Yes, 600 laps seems to be enough... The only problem is that
>this description (which is almost identical to my burned-in
>copy of the track) only has ~100 turns, not 170+ :-)
(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)
>Yes, 600 laps seems to be enough... The only problem is that
>this description (which is almost identical to my burned-in
>copy of the track) only has ~100 turns, not 170+ :-)
Hehe, that was me :-)
I missed out a few because I either forgot about them or ("Not sure
here") or didn't consider them major turns etc etc :-)
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