>>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote
>>Tim has made several claims about this issue. They change depending onhis current mood or motivation, I guess? He has claimed that I (or
SearsGroup) have claimed ownership of Sears99 for the advancement of
personal interests. That has never been the case....nor could I enforce
such a claim even if I wanted to. I did write email to several websites
that were initially "posting" copies of the Sears99 track, when we first
learned what Tim was doing. I informed them that this (Sears99) was the
property of SPR and SMI, and that Tim was not authorized to distribute the
track file publicly
Pathetic. You remember guys a thread I made on r.a.s. about third-party
groups creating tracks without the approval of the track owners? Here is
what happens when stupid track owners and lawyers piss off on people like
Tim who just want to have society appreciate the work of some people. Oh
well...
Shame to SPI and SMI, shame to anybody who promote corporate profits over
advancing the community and society on the right step.
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>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote
>I have for some time now, contemplated having to write this letter.....andpost it on r.a.s
Oh and please don't post binaries here next time. Thank you!
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Weird thing about it, I have YET to recieve anything from sears point
or SMI requesting me to stop posting Sears99. Though I have recieved a
3 page letter from Tom Pabst's lawyer requesting it.
Hmm, Tom? You ever going to answer any of my emails?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 02:35:25 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>>>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote >>>Tim has made several claims about this issue. They change depending on >his current mood or motivation, I guess? He has claimed that I (or >SearsGroup) have claimed ownership of Sears99 for the advancement of >personal interests. That has never been the case....nor could I enforce >such a claim even if I wanted to. I did write email to several websites >that were initially "posting" copies of the Sears99 track, when we first >learned what Tim was doing. I informed them that this (Sears99) was the >property of SPR and SMI, and that Tim was not authorized to distribute the >track file publicly > > > >Pathetic. You remember guys a thread I made on r.a.s. about third-party >groups creating tracks without the approval of the track owners? Here is >what happens when stupid track owners and lawyers piss off on people like >Tim who just want to have society appreciate the work of some people. Oh >well... > >Shame to SPI and SMI, shame to anybody who promote corporate profits over >advancing the community and society on the right step. > > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >I would very much like to see this letter that Tom posted. If anyone
has it, please email to [email hidden] , size isnt an issue.
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 02:35:58 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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>>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote >>I have for some time now, contemplated having to write this letter.....and >post it on r.a.s > >Oh and please don't post binaries here next time. Thank you! > > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >You really ARE a tiresome twit at times, Frank.
ymenard wrote:
> Oh and please don't post binaries here next time. Thank you!
>
Although I have my own opinions on this matter, I think its best I don't
share them in public. I will say I have known Tim and communicated with
him on and off for the past year or two in various capacities and I don't
question Tim's "integrity" in the least. I only say this as Tom has placed
his integrity up against Tim's.
However, I do have a question or two.
Tom says "Tim was an active participant (as an equity partner) in
SearsGroup activities from approximately October of 1999, to approximately
April of 2000.
Yet... the letter from Theodore W. Phillips says:
"These claims are totally unfounded since you were a NON-EQUITY partner of
the partnership and were entitled to reimbursement of certain expenses and
compensation only when certain financial conditions are met."
Hmmm... sounds like somebody needs to get the story straight.
Also, as I haven't read anywhere how SearsGroup, which consults and from my
understanding modified N3 files, obtained permission from Papyrus for these
commercial activities ?
Lastly, I don't think anyone needs to worry about the communication between
Tim and Mr. Noonan or whether or not Mr. Noonan will continue his fantastic
efforts for the sim racing community.
DISCLAIMER:
I speak for myself and NOT, I repeat NOT for The Pits.
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"Scott B. Husted" wrote:
>
> Lastly, I don't think anyone needs to worry about the communication between
> Tim and Mr. Noonan or whether or not Mr. Noonan will continue his fantastic
> efforts for the sim racing community.
How do you know ?
Beers and cheers
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Yeah. There you can get all the justice money can buy.....
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After having read the nice rhetoric by both parties (for which I think Tim
did most of the writing himself and Tom had some help from his lawyer), I
just have one question: why do you either of you think it's important to
gain the sympathy of this newsgroup? If either of you really had such a
strong case against the other, you could just have it over and done with...
Cheers,
Herko
Exactly,
Tim just wants to be left alone, with what he helped create. Tom wants it
all; Glory, Respect and MONEY MONEY MONEY!
Tom, et al are the ones hounding Tim.
Wayne Bradley
"Herko ter Horst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Fc9u5.246992$Kw2.1896064@flipper...
> After having read the nice rhetoric by both parties (for which I think Tim
> did most of the writing himself and Tom had some help from his lawyer), I
> just have one question: why do you either of you think it's important to
> gain the sympathy of this newsgroup? If either of you really had such a
> strong case against the other, you could just have it over and donewith...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Herko
>
>
I kn no way want anyone in RAS to take sides on who is right or wrong,
but if Tom is to state that I "worked for" or was a "partner" of
SearsGroup is not true. I must defend that position due to This
reason:
I have never signed anything, either on contract basis or partnership,
with any company or persons stating that I work for or are a partner
of a company or group of people, whom use a Papyrus product to earn
money or has the potential to earn money. This would be a direct
violation of other legalities signed with other parties. I MUST defend
this arguement by Tom Pabst or be held liable with other companies.
This also happens to be the basis of Pabst's law suit against me. Even
his attorney agrees that if I were NOT an employee of SearsGroup, then
SG would have no claim on Sears99.
I called Tom's lawyer this morning. I told him I am at the point of
either Pabst and the fictional SearsGroup company either sit with me
to work out a solution to this problem, or bring me to court. That is
it, I am done with this issue unless someone serves me with a summons.
My response to Tom's posting of legal documents on this newgroup is
complete outrage. The long post that Tom made yestersay will not get a
reposnse from me, as I am too disgusted to even respond. Sears99
belongs to no one person and can not. The files contained within are
of papyrus code and can not be "owned" by anyone other then them.
Any one of two companies can kill Sears99 and those are Papyrus and
Sears Point Raceway. I have not recieved a letter or phone call from
either, asking to stop the distribution of Sears99. Though Steve Page
of Sears Point has asked that I no longer use "copyrighted images" of
SPR, in which I am complying.
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:19:33 GMT, "Herko ter Horst"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>After having read the nice rhetoric by both parties (for which I think Tim >did most of the writing himself and Tom had some help from his lawyer), I >just have one question: why do you either of you think it's important to >gain the sympathy of this newsgroup? If either of you really had such a >strong case against the other, you could just have it over and done with... > >Cheers, > >Herko > >Amen:
Wayne we agree
Don Wilshe
"Wayne Bradley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8pb840$ifi$[email hidden]...
Tim
> > did most of the writing himself and Tom had some help from his lawyer),I
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> Exactly, > > Tim just wants to be left alone, with what he helped create. Tom wants it > all; Glory, Respect and MONEY MONEY MONEY! > Tom, et al are the ones hounding Tim. > > Wayne Bradley > > > > > "Herko ter Horst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Fc9u5.246992$Kw2.1896064@flipper... > > After having read the nice rhetoric by both parties (for which I thinkQuoted text (13 lines)
> > just have one question: why do you either of you think it's important to > > gain the sympathy of this newsgroup? If either of you really had such a > > strong case against the other, you could just have it over and done > with... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Herko > > > > > > >Leaky_Valve wrote:
>
> You really ARE a tiresome twit at times, Frank.
Sigh, but sometimes he's right ;)
Just think of the poor bastards on slow modems with a provider
that doesn't filter out binaries. OTOH, if you don't give a shit
about them...
>
> ymenard wrote:
>
> > Oh and please don't post binaries here next time. Thank you!
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