Hey!, whats with the new package design for GP2, called GP3?!!

Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Except now it has been design to run crappy on anything under a Gigahertz machine!! (BTW, Im running this on p733, Voodoo3(AGP) 128 RAM.(not the best, but better than average and I still default at 640x480) Is this MP's top priority?! Publish a game that never runs close to 30fps on decent graphics setting, competent resolution, and the latest system to date?!! What a joke!! Now I know why people hang CDs from their rearview mirrors. Its a copy of Geoff Crammond's latest GP title waiting for the day when everyone will have a block of dry ice and a "Cray" computer sitting by their desk!! Wheres the smooth aliasing with my Voodoo3 like all the other games designed in the past 3 years?!! This game is still majorly pixilated!! Not smooth, no antialiasing, no atmospheric hazing effects, static wheels, sketchy driving AI cars, etc. What a POS!! Get a clue! "GP3" doesnt look any different than GP2 except for the box cover!! I can't give any comments on the dynamics since I refuse to play this sim with all graphics off in SGA rezolution!!(IOWS, I refuse to go back to 1995!) The only thing GP3 is good for, IMHO, is to show you how smooth GP2 will run on your system now!! Man, Im not even going to waste anymore of my time. All I gota say is, "Can you say, SBK2000"!! Now this is a sim! Dynamics are superb! Runs like butter even with high polygon models, reflective, lighting algorithms on my lower p400 system, graphics are beautiful, AI is decent and runs realistic times. WTF is the prob with Geoff Crammond?!!!! Its obvious GC will carve his name in cow dung on any near hillside!! Why even glamourize this "sim" by affiliating his name?!! Who gives a shit?!! "Masterpiece"?!! Whatever!! Crammond, forget using your name in your game "design" like that has something to do with anything anyway!! The only reason GP2 was the discussion of topic is because it was the only thing out at the time unless you where into chewing tabacco and running in circles!! Also I notice people on this list posting commments in relation to "Microprose sucks" or "EA sims suck". These people need to understand the reality of things and that is that EA, Microprose or any other major player are NOT one big room with a bunch of programmers and pocket protectors designing all of the games. These are affiliates. Small production companies that are licensing the publishing rights or selling out altogether to these larger "gaming" companies. Thats why "Nascar Revolution" sucks big donkey dick and Superbike 2000 rocks! Superbike was designed by a small group of talented developers who licensed it to Virgin Interactive who where bought out by or licensed it to EA. (Cant wait for SBK2001 with that new SP-1!(BTW) Im outa here!! Ill be back to give a full evaluation when something that even come close to resembling what its like to be in a real F1 car finally becomes a reality!! Till then best reguards to all you guys and I feel for some of you because I used to post here alot along time ago and I see familiar names. Names of die hard sim racers, some even that used to post on the ole sim BBS(pre-internet era). I truly feel for you. You guys have hung in there and truly deserve more than what these shisters have sold you! Unfortunately most of these companies nowadays have eyes of green and IPO rather than putting their heart and sole into something really worth creating. Jezus Christ! Its the year 2000!! Wheres our fucking "Flying cars"!!!!!!!!!!!FUCK!! Best reguards, -DG- -David Gary- http://www.davidgarystudios.com "World's best Website Award(Gold)" and "Coolsite of the Year" nominee Interactive Media Designer/Producer Dreamwave Productions, Inc. Orlando, FL 407-522-5379 407-325-0285 407-522-7689(fax)

Hey Wanker get it off your chest !!! Open your eyes and your realise this is the best gp sim going i and many others are having fun with this game. Shame you are missing out with your narrow views and small brain. Andy.

> Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Please, not again... *sigh*. Herko

HAHAHAHAHAHAH FUNNNEY MAN!!!! BAN MONZA! David Gary wrote:

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> Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Except now it has > been design to run crappy on anything under a Gigahertz machine!! (BTW, Im > running this on p733, Voodoo3(AGP) 128 RAM.(not the best, but better than > average and I still default at 640x480) Is this MP's top priority?! Publish > a game that never runs close to 30fps on decent graphics setting, competent > resolution, and the latest system to date?!! What a joke!! Now I know why > people hang CDs from their rearview mirrors. Its a copy of Geoff Crammond's > latest GP title waiting for the day when everyone will have a block of dry > ice and a "Cray" computer sitting by their desk!! > > Wheres the smooth aliasing with my Voodoo3 like all the other games designed > in the past 3 years?!! This game is still majorly pixilated!! Not smooth, no > antialiasing, no atmospheric hazing effects, static wheels, sketchy driving > AI cars, etc. What a POS!! Get a clue! "GP3" doesnt look any different than > GP2 except for the box cover!! I can't give any comments on the dynamics > since I refuse to play this sim with all graphics off in SGA > rezolution!!(IOWS, I refuse to go back to 1995!) The only thing GP3 is good > for, IMHO, is to show you how smooth GP2 will run on your system now!! Man, > Im not even going to waste anymore of my time. All I gota say is, "Can you > say, SBK2000"!! Now this is a sim! Dynamics are superb! Runs like butter > even with high polygon models, reflective, lighting algorithms on my lower > p400 system, graphics are beautiful, AI is decent and runs realistic times. > WTF is the prob with Geoff Crammond?!!!! Its obvious GC will carve his name > in cow dung on any near hillside!! Why even glamourize this "sim" by > affiliating his name?!! Who gives a shit?!! "Masterpiece"?!! Whatever!! > Crammond, forget using your name in your game "design" like that has > something to do with anything anyway!! The only reason GP2 was the > discussion of topic is because it was the only thing out at the time unless > you where into chewing tabacco and running in circles!! > > Also I notice people on this list posting commments in relation to > "Microprose sucks" or "EA sims suck". These people need to understand the > reality of things and that is that EA, Microprose or any other major player > are NOT one big room with a bunch of programmers and pocket protectors > designing all of the games. These are affiliates. Small production companies > that are licensing the publishing rights or selling out altogether to these > larger "gaming" companies. > Thats why "Nascar Revolution" sucks big donkey dick and Superbike 2000 > rocks! Superbike was designed by a small group of talented developers who > licensed it to Virgin Interactive who where bought out by or licensed it to > EA. (Cant wait for SBK2001 with that new SP-1!(BTW) > > Im outa here!! Ill be back to give a full evaluation when something that > even come close to resembling what its like to be in a real F1 car finally > becomes a reality!! > > Till then best reguards to all you guys and I feel for some of you because I > used to post here alot along time ago and I see familiar names. Names of die > hard sim racers, some even that used to post on the ole sim BBS(pre-internet > era). I truly feel for you. You guys have hung in there and truly deserve > more than what these shisters have sold you! Unfortunately most of these > companies nowadays have eyes of green and IPO rather than putting their > heart and sole into something really worth creating. > > Jezus Christ! Its the year 2000!! Wheres our fucking "Flying > cars"!!!!!!!!!!!FUCK!! > > Best reguards, > > -DG- > > -David Gary- > http://www.davidgarystudios.com > "World's best Website Award(Gold)" and "Coolsite of the Year" nominee > Interactive Media Designer/Producer > Dreamwave Productions, Inc. > Orlando, FL > 407-522-5379 > 407-325-0285 > 407-522-7689(fax)

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:47:16 +0100, andy bolt <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Hey Wanker get it off your chest !!! >Open your eyes and your realise this is the best gp sim going i and many others >are having fun with this game. Shame you are missing out with your narrow views >and small brain. >Andy. gpl ?

Sorry all...I agree with David..A total piece of junk. Could have much better considering what is going on with sim racing and the world of modern PC's. Bought my copy on a Friday , returned it for a full refund on Saturday. DC Herko ter Horst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P%Iu5.262551$Kw2.2090058@flipper... > > Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2with

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> > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! > > Please, not again... *sigh*. > > Herko > >

David Gary wrote: a lot...:-) > LOL, still the same old Gary eh ? :-) Another old timer returns to the flock, still painting cars David ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--

"David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:aFEu5.20206$[email hidden]... > Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Except now ithas > been design to run crappy on anything under a Gigahertz machine!! (BTW, Im > running this on p733, Voodoo3(AGP) 128 RAM.(not the best, but better than > average and I still default at 640x480) Is this MP's top priority?! > ......rant skipped........ 1280x1024, 25 fps everything on on Athlon 800 + Geforce 2 GTS here. Could run the same res on Celeron 300A at 450 with the Geforce at 20 fps except for the start of the race. So before stating a lot of rubbish about GP3, check out your system and maybe upgrade your Voodoo3. Bart Westra

"Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > HAHAHAHAHAHAH FUNNNEY MAN!!!! > > BAN MONZA! Save Monza, Bulldoze the chicanes! -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

Don't think the V3 is the prob, it runs at 1280 on my V3 on Athlon 750 very nicely. Also runs nicely on P2 333 with TNT2. Must be a system problem. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Bart Westra <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8pfrua$ef5$[email hidden]... > > "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message > news:aFEu5.20206$[email hidden]... > > Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with > > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Except now it > has > > been design to run crappy on anything under a Gigahertz machine!! (BTW, Im > > running this on p733, Voodoo3(AGP) 128 RAM.(not the best, but better than > > average and I still default at 640x480) Is this MP's top priority?! > > ......rant skipped........ > > 1280x1024, 25 fps everything on on Athlon 800 + Geforce 2 GTS here. Could > run the same res on Celeron 300A at 450 with the Geforce at 20 fps except > for the start of the race. > So before stating a lot of rubbish about GP3, check out your system and > maybe upgrade your Voodoo3. > > Bart Westra > > > >

Gee......somebody, somewhere ain't getting any by the sounds of it, go lie down mate and remember..there's someone fer everyone..... Ian Master of the aquaplane 720, nemisis of the Minardi's and GP3 pilot second class...nearly. "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:aFEu5.20206$[email hidden]... > Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a > decent F1 sim and why am I not suprised GP3 is nothing more than GP2 with > different front end screens and a box that says "GP3"?!!! Except now ithas > been design to run crappy on anything under a Gigahertz machine!! (BTW, Im > running this on p733, Voodoo3(AGP) 128 RAM.(not the best, but better than > average and I still default at 640x480) Is this MP's top priority?!Publish > a game that never runs close to 30fps on decent graphics setting,competent > resolution, and the latest system to date?!! What a joke!! Now I know why > people hang CDs from their rearview mirrors. Its a copy of GeoffCrammond's > latest GP title waiting for the day when everyone will have a block of dry > ice and a "Cray" computer sitting by their desk!! > > Wheres the smooth aliasing with my Voodoo3 like all the other gamesdesigned > in the past 3 years?!! This game is still majorly pixilated!! Not smooth,no > antialiasing, no atmospheric hazing effects, static wheels, sketchydriving > AI cars, etc. What a POS!! Get a clue! "GP3" doesnt look any differentthan > GP2 except for the box cover!! I can't give any comments on the dynamics > since I refuse to play this sim with all graphics off in SGA > rezolution!!(IOWS, I refuse to go back to 1995!) The only thing GP3 isgood > for, IMHO, is to show you how smooth GP2 will run on your system now!!Man, > Im not even going to waste anymore of my time. All I gota say is, "Can you > say, SBK2000"!! Now this is a sim! Dynamics are superb! Runs like butter > even with high polygon models, reflective, lighting algorithms on my lower > p400 system, graphics are beautiful, AI is decent and runs realistictimes. > WTF is the prob with Geoff Crammond?!!!! Its obvious GC will carve hisname > in cow dung on any near hillside!! Why even glamourize this "sim" by > affiliating his name?!! Who gives a shit?!! "Masterpiece"?!! Whatever!! > Crammond, forget using your name in your game "design" like that has > something to do with anything anyway!! The only reason GP2 was the > discussion of topic is because it was the only thing out at the timeunless > you where into chewing tabacco and running in circles!! > > Also I notice people on this list posting commments in relation to > "Microprose sucks" or "EA sims suck". These people need to understand the > reality of things and that is that EA, Microprose or any other majorplayer > are NOT one big room with a bunch of programmers and pocket protectors > designing all of the games. These are affiliates. Small productioncompanies > that are licensing the publishing rights or selling out altogether tothese > larger "gaming" companies. > Thats why "Nascar Revolution" sucks big donkey dick and Superbike 2000 > rocks! Superbike was designed by a small group of talented developers who > licensed it to Virgin Interactive who where bought out by or licensed itto

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> EA. (Cant wait for SBK2001 with that new SP-1!(BTW) > > Im outa here!! Ill be back to give a full evaluation when something that > even come close to resembling what its like to be in a real F1 car finally > becomes a reality!! > > Till then best reguards to all you guys and I feel for some of you because

I > used to post here alot along time ago and I see familiar names. Names ofdie > hard sim racers, some even that used to post on the ole simBBS(pre-internet

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> era). I truly feel for you. You guys have hung in there and truly deserve > more than what these shisters have sold you! Unfortunately most of these > companies nowadays have eyes of green and IPO rather than putting their > heart and sole into something really worth creating. > > Jezus Christ! Its the year 2000!! Wheres our fucking "Flying > cars"!!!!!!!!!!!FUCK!! > > Best reguards, > > > -DG- > > -David Gary- > http://www.davidgarystudios.com > "World's best Website Award(Gold)" and "Coolsite of the Year" nominee > Interactive Media Designer/Producer > Dreamwave Productions, Inc. > Orlando, FL > 407-522-5379 > 407-325-0285 > 407-522-7689(fax) > > > > >

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:47:16 +0100, andy bolt <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Hey Wanker get it off your chest !!! >Open your eyes and your realise this is the best gp sim <<<<< -snip- Thanks for my "hearty laugh of the day"..<g>. Matt

Some of those comments are justified of course, but as for not getting 30 fps, I run it at 36fps (with the frame rate hack utility) and get less than 100% PO about 95% of the time on a P3-650 with a GeForce2 in 1024*768. Also that effect is called 'filtering', not 'anti-aliasing'. Filtering means instead of mapping texels directly, an weighted average of maybe 3*3 texels is taken instead, producing smoothed out textures. As for why this is missing on some textures in GP3, I can tell you it was done deliberately, although I also think it was a dumb decision. "David Gary" <dgarystudios@*NOSPAM*cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:aFEu5.20206$[email hidden]... > Man, I'm back! Thats right, Im back after 3 solid years of waiting for a<minor snip> > > Best reguards, > -DG-