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When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive VROC races hosted there... NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGP isn't live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to wonder what it's all about! Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months) I've just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! Rob

Its about time more people started driving coopers. I started attacking the track with my cooper a month or 2 back and it has been a blast ever since. Online races are great too. It feels real good to beat lotii and eagles at spa or monza. JB "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive VROC > races hosted there... > > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGP isn't > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > wonder what it's all about! > > Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months) I've > just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! > > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! > > Rob >

I love the Cooper too, it's a delight to drive. After 30 laps it still brakes in a straight line, whereas the Eagle and Lotus start swerving all over the place, presumably because of uneven tyre temperatures, although that could just be dodgy default setups. It's also nice to be able to attack the track instead of apologizing to it in the Lotus. A seperate GPL Rank listing for Cooper only drivers would be nice :) "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%Kav5.4194$[email hidden]... > Its about time more people started driving coopers. I started attackingthe > track with my cooper a month or 2 back and it has been a blast ever since. > Online races are great too. It feels real good to beat lotii and eaglesat

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> spa or monza. > > JB > > "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive VROC > > races hosted there... > > > > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGP isn't > > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > > wonder what it's all about! > > > > Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months) I've > > just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! > > > > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! > > > > Rob > > > >

Try joining the COBRHA (Cooper, BRM, Honda) on-line racing team. From what I understand, it's loads of fun!!! -Cheers! "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FFcv5.2104$%[email hidden]...

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> I love the Cooper too, it's a delight to drive. After 30 laps it still > brakes in a straight line, whereas the Eagle and Lotus start swerving all > over the place, presumably because of uneven tyre temperatures, although > that could just be dodgy default setups. It's also nice to be able to > attack the track instead of apologizing to it in the Lotus. > A seperate GPL Rank listing for Cooper only drivers would be nice :) > > "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%Kav5.4194$[email hidden]... > > Its about time more people started driving coopers. I started attacking > the > > track with my cooper a month or 2 back and it has been a blast ever

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> > Online races are great too. It feels real good to beat lotii and eagles > at > > spa or monza. > > > > JB > > > > "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive

VROC > > > races hosted there... > > > > > > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > > > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGPisn't > > > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > > > wonder what it's all about! > > > > > > Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months)I've

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> > > just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! > > > > > > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > >

Yeah they should have a cooper only listing on GPL Rank. Then I could actually compare my rank to others. BTW, I am in the COBRHA league. Great fun with coopers, hondas and BRMs on the track. JB "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FFcv5.2104$%[email hidden]...

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> I love the Cooper too, it's a delight to drive. After 30 laps it still > brakes in a straight line, whereas the Eagle and Lotus start swerving all > over the place, presumably because of uneven tyre temperatures, although > that could just be dodgy default setups. It's also nice to be able to > attack the track instead of apologizing to it in the Lotus. > A seperate GPL Rank listing for Cooper only drivers would be nice :) > > "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%Kav5.4194$[email hidden]... > > Its about time more people started driving coopers. I started attacking > the > > track with my cooper a month or 2 back and it has been a blast ever

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> > Online races are great too. It feels real good to beat lotii and eagles > at > > spa or monza. > > > > JB > > > > "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive

VROC > > > races hosted there... > > > > > > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > > > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGPisn't > > > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > > > wonder what it's all about! > > > > > > Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months)I've

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> > > just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! > > > > > > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > >

Huh, search for "COBRHA" on Alta-Vista and Excite produced no results! Have you got the URL handy if they have a homepage? Thanks. "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Joev5.4240$[email hidden]... > > Yeah they should have a cooper only listing on GPL Rank. Then I could > actually compare my rank to others. BTW, I am in the COBRHA league.Great > fun with coopers, hondas and BRMs on the track. > > JB

Tried it, hate it. Why on earth does anyone consider this horrible car fun? What sort of times are you getting at Spa and Monza? And more imortantly (for me) how are you possibly supposed to be competitive at the Nurburgring in a Cooper? -- -Ace- (GPLRank-1.03) Wosco <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%Kav5.4194$[email hidden]... > Its about time more people started driving coopers. I started attacking the > track with my cooper a month or 2 back and it has been a blast ever since. > Online races are great too. It feels real good to beat lotii and eagles at > spa or monza. > > JB > > "Rob Swindells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > When I asked for Monza to be banned, I was talking about excessive VROC > > races hosted there... > > > > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGP isn't > > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > > wonder what it's all about! > > > > Oh, and after spending all my GPL "career" in the Lotus (19 months) I've > > just switched to the Cooper and having a LOT of fun! > > > > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! > > > > Rob > > > >

So you have fun racing against the other Coopers/BRMs/Hondas for 10th place instead. You can get some great racing further back in the pack. "Ace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jguv5.77363$[email hidden]... > Tried it, hate it. Why on earth does anyone consider this horrible carfun? > What sort of times are you getting at Spa and Monza? And more imortantly > (for me) how are you possibly supposed to be competitive at theNurburgring

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> in a Cooper? > -- > -Ace- > (GPLRank-1.03) > > Wosco <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%Kav5.4194$[email hidden]...

In article <Mpev5.2469$%[email hidden]>, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Huh, search for "COBRHA" on Alta-Vista and Excite produced no results! Have >you got the URL handy if they have a homepage? Thanks. > >"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Joev5.4240$[email hidden]... >> >> Yeah they should have a cooper only listing on GPL Rank. Then I could >> actually compare my rank to others. BTW, I am in the COBRHA league. >Great >> fun with coopers, hondas and BRMs on the track. >> >> JB >

http://www.gplrs.org/cobrha/ Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +50.77 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> http://www.gplrs.org/cobrha/ > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +50.77

No points for finishing outside the top 6 though, and isn't it nice to win once in a while? I'm no Greger Huttu, and I don't see myself wringing enough out of the car to get a good finish (in the Cooper or BRM) which I consider the whole point of racing. And the Cooper is such a pain to drive; the engine doesn't have the smoothness or driveability of, say, the Weslake, Cosworth or Repco, and the geometry causes the car to handle like a minibus. I applaud you for sticking up for it, but I question your sanity <g> -Ace- (GPLRank -1.03) "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: > So you have fun racing against the other Coopers/BRMs/Hondas for 10thplace > instead. You can get some great racing further back in the pack. > > "Ace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Jguv5.77363$[email hidden]... > > Tried it, hate it. Why on earth does anyone consider this horriblecar > fun? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> the Cooper is such a pain to drive; the engine doesn't have the > smoothness or driveability of, say, the Weslake, Cosworth or Repco, and > the geometry causes the car to handle like a minibus. I applaud you for > sticking up for it, but I question your sanity <g> You need to get some decent setups.The Cooper is down on power admittedly but it's probably the best handling car on the track with a decent setup. Nothing is beter in the brakes department either. In the right hands, a Cooper is good for 1:28 at Monza. It's nice to see those Green beans smoked every now and again. MS

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> > -Ace- > (GPLRank -1.03) > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > So you have fun racing against the other Coopers/BRMs/Hondas for 10th > place > > instead. You can get some great racing further back in the pack. > > > > "Ace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Jguv5.77363$[email hidden]... > > > Tried it, hate it. Why on earth does anyone consider this horrible > car > > fun? > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Hehe If I was to list the cars in order of difficulty to drive for me it would be- (easiest) Cooper Honda BRM (not sure though, haven't driven it much) Brabham Eagle Ferrari Lotus (hardest) I presume you wouldn't agree with that :) I also suspect loads of Ferrari drivers would disagree as well. Maybe it's because I use the default setups? <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8pnt0u$e04$[email hidden]...

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> No points for finishing outside the top 6 though, and isn't it nice to > win once in a while? I'm no Greger Huttu, and I don't see myself > wringing enough out of the car to get a good finish (in the Cooper or > BRM) which I consider the whole point of racing. > And the Cooper is such a pain to drive; the engine doesn't have the > smoothness or driveability of, say, the Weslake, Cosworth or Repco, and > the geometry causes the car to handle like a minibus. I applaud you for > sticking up for it, but I question your sanity <g> > > -Ace- > (GPLRank -1.03)

Easiest to Hardest, IMO are Eagle Brabham Honda Cooper Ferrari Lotus BRM I suspect i find the Eagle easiest as it's my favourite, and I've probably done more laps in that than all other cars combined. Therefore, my list is going to be biased somewhat, and based on how easy other cars are to drive compared to the Eagle. The Ferrari is a pig with whatever setup, The lotus demands rapt attention, and the BRM's effort-reward ratio is too low -- -Ace- (GPLRank-1.03) Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote > If I was to list the cars in order of difficulty to drive for me it would > be- > > (easiest) > Cooper > Honda > BRM (not sure though, haven't driven it much) > Brabham > Eagle > Ferrari > Lotus > (hardest) > > I presume you wouldn't agree with that :) > I also suspect loads of Ferrari drivers would disagree as well. > Maybe it's because I use the default setups?

> > NOW they're talking about getting rid of the REAL Monza from Formula > One!! This would be a disaster! Add to this the fact that the USGP isn't > live, the races being are (mostly) dull, dull, dull and I start to > wonder what it's all about! It's about making great wads of money. Some of the pigs are more equal than others. > So in conclusion, F1 is dull, Cooper's are exciting! F1 isn't dull.......It's dead. Agreed about the Cooper though <G> MS > > Rob >

I used to drive the Eagle all the time before I discovered the Brabham, which is the car I would 'generally' try to do PB's in (depending on the track of course). I race the Cooper purely for fun :) Basically, my times are way off the sort of times you can do (with a rank of 1.03), so I'm not gonna win any races on Vroc anyway, so I may as well just use it as training and pick a car I enjoy driving. "Ace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PUOv5.84446$[email hidden]...

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> Easiest to Hardest, IMO are > Eagle > Brabham > Honda > Cooper > Ferrari > Lotus > BRM > > I suspect i find the Eagle easiest as it's my favourite, and I've probably > done more laps in that than all other cars combined. Therefore, my list is > going to be biased somewhat, and based on how easy other cars are to drive > compared to the Eagle. The Ferrari is a pig with whatever setup, The lotus > demands rapt attention, and the BRM's effort-reward ratio is too low > -- > -Ace- > (GPLRank-1.03)

I'm just such an untidy driver, I like to have enough instant power to compensate for my numrous errors:-) The Cooper does't seem to have such a good low end. And the other reason I don't like the Cooper is that it's ugly <bg> -Ace- (GPLRank -1.15) In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Woodie 83) wrote: > The only thing wrong with the Cooper is a lack of power. It handlesgreat, > brakes great, and has no torque peak. It pulls the same no matterwhat gear > you're in. It's also damn near bulletproof. We run Pro Long, andI've never > gone out due to breaking the car or the engine. My teammate onceflipped, > landed back on his wheels, and finished the race. You would becompletely

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> wrong if you hadn't questioned my sanity. > > ] > Don McCorkle > GPL handicap 10.something or other > >

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In article <8pnt0u$e04$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: >No points for finishing outside the top 6 though, and isn't it nice to >win once in a while? I'm no Greger Huttu, and I don't see myself >wringing enough out of the car to get a good finish (in the Cooper or >BRM) which I consider the whole point of racing. I am currently running fourth in my leagea and that is mostly due to two starting line disasters. With seven races done my Cooper and I were first. >And the Cooper is such a pain to drive; the engine doesn't have the >smoothness or driveability of, say, the Weslake, Cosworth or Repco, and >the geometry causes the car to handle like a minibus. I applaud you for >sticking up for it, but I question your sanity <g> >The only thing wrong with the Cooper is a lack of power. It handles great, brakes great, and has no torque peak. It pulls the same no matter what gear you're in. It's also damn near bulletproof. We run Pro Long, and I've never gone out due to breaking the car or the engine. My teammate once flipped, landed back on his wheels, and finished the race. You would be completely wrong if you hadn't questioned my sanity. ] Don McCorkle GPL handicap 10.something or other