Re: Wheel versus Joystick:

It took me about a month to get down to my joystick times once I got a wheel, the sad thing is that the times were less then impressive in the first place! Chris -- Citylab Durban www.citylab.com Tony Whitley <t o n y . w h i t l e y @ n S t P l A w M o r l d . c o m> wrote in message news:9diy5.142$[email hidden]... > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8qbrpc$1g8q$[email hidden]... > > In article <u5ey5.35101$[email hidden]>, "Zen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? > > > > I still race with a stick. I've tried a couple of wheels in the past, but > > always come back to the stick. Maybe I just didn't give them enough time. > > And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick, though maybe my +83 handicap > > attests to the error in my ways! > Wolfgang Woeger used a stick to set several GPL world records so that's no > excuse! He's now seen the error of his ways and is using a wheel, and going > much slower (for the time being....) > > Tony Whitley > > > >

Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? I have been using an Interact V4 FF wheel for a year. I think its quite adequate, especially since its priced low. But the other evening I exited my flight sim and left the joystick (MS Sidewinder 3D Pro) plugged in for a GP3 run. What a feast! After a couple of minutes (hours?) of tweaking sensitivity factors and key mapping, etc., I started enjoying it a lot, bringing back memories of good'ol GP2. Maybe its the fact that I am sitting closer to the monitor, or whatever, but there is something which makes it better, in some ways. I can't drive GPL without the FF wheel . But GP3? And hwo knows, maybe the joystick will appear in real F1 cockpits in a not too distant future... Cheers Zen

In article <u5ey5.35101$[email hidden]>, "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? I still race with a stick. I've tried a couple of wheels in the past, but always come back to the stick. Maybe I just didn't give them enough time. And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick, though maybe my +83 handicap attests to the error in my ways!

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qbrpc$1g8q$[email hidden]... > In article <u5ey5.35101$[email hidden]>, "Zen"<[email hidden]> wrote: > >Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? > > I still race with a stick. I've tried a couple of wheels in the past, but > always come back to the stick. Maybe I just didn't give them enough time. > And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick, though maybe my +83 handicap > attests to the error in my ways!Wolfgang Woeger used a stick to set several GPL world records so that's no excuse! He's now seen the error of his ways and is using a wheel, and going much slower (for the time being....) Tony Whitley

Or maybe this is the controller GP3 was designed for :-( One unhappy purchaser of GP3 with a MSFF Wheel and V5. Michael "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:u5ey5.35101$[email hidden]... > Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? I have been using > an Interact V4 FF wheel for a year. I think its quite adequate, especially > since its priced low. But the other evening I exited my flight sim andleft > the joystick (MS Sidewinder 3D Pro) plugged in for a GP3 run. What afeast! > > After a couple of minutes (hours?) of tweaking sensitivity factors and key > mapping, etc., I started enjoying it a lot, bringing back memories of > good'ol GP2. Maybe its the fact that I am sitting closer to the monitor,or

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> whatever, but there is something which makes it better, in some ways. > > I can't drive GPL without the FF wheel . But GP3? And hwo knows, maybe the > joystick will appear in real F1 cockpits in a not too distant future... > > Cheers > > Zen > >

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>Have any of you tried racing with the joystick recently? I have been using >an Interact V4 FF wheel for a year. I think its quite adequate, especially >since its priced low. But the other evening I exited my flight sim and left >the joystick (MS Sidewinder 3D Pro) plugged in for a GP3 run. What a feast! > >After a couple of minutes (hours?) of tweaking sensitivity factors and key >mapping, etc., I started enjoying it a lot, bringing back memories of >good'ol GP2. Maybe its the fact that I am sitting closer to the monitor, or >whatever, but there is something which makes it better, in some ways. > >I can't drive GPL without the FF wheel . But GP3? And hwo knows, maybe >the >joystick will appear in real F1 cockpits in a not too distant future... > >Cheers

No problems with using a joystick from here. One day I will get a wheel and find room to use it, but until that time I can drive just fine without one. Most of my racing time for the last 18 months has been spent with GPL and using a joystick and so I have become reasonably proficient with it. I also have only ever driven using the in-car view, whereas I get the impression that a lot of other good joystick users prefer the external view in order to drive well. Well, this just isn't the case as my GPLrank will attest to, though I forget what it is exactly as I haven't checked for a couple of months, but I reckon it's about -47 to 50. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

In article <9diy5.142$6b2.932@news6- win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Tony Whitley" <t o n y . w h i t l e y @ n S t P l A w M o r l d . c o m> wrote: > <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8qbrpc$1g8q$[email hidden]... > > In article <u5ey5.35101$[email hidden]>, "Zen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Have any of you tried racing with thejoystick recently? > > > > I still race with a stick. I've tried acouple of wheels in the past, but > > always come back to the stick. Maybe I justdidn't give them enough time. > > And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick,though maybe my +83 handicap > > attests to the error in my ways! > Wolfgang Woeger used a stick to set several GPLworld records so that's no > excuse! He's now seen the error of his ways andis using a wheel, and going > much slower (for the time being....) > > Tony Whitley hi Tony I dont see any errors in racing with a Joystick. I didnt see them 30 months in GPL and changing to wheel now does not mean that I say racing with Joystick is the wrong way. I just looked for a new challenge and found it. thanks Wolfgang Woeger Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8qi4sl$ivm$[email hidden]... > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > I still race with a stick. I've tried a > > couple of wheels in the past, but > > > > always come back to the stick. Maybe I just > > didn't give them enough time. > > > > And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick, > > though maybe my +83 handicap > > > > attests to the error in my ways! > > > Wolfgang Woeger used a stick to set several GPL > > world records so that's no > > > excuse! He's now seen the error of his ways and > > is using a wheel, and going > > > much slower (for the time being....) > > > > > > Tony Whitley > > > > hi Tony > > I dont see any errors in racing with a Joystick. > > I didnt see them 30 months in GPL and changing to > > wheel now does not mean that I say racing with > > Joystick is the wrong way. I just looked for a > > new challenge and found it. > > thanks > > Wolfgang Woeger > Hi Wolfgang, > > I wasn't intending to criticise, I was just echoing "masten"'s

original > post. Perhaps I should have put it in quotes. I hope you're enjoyingthe new > challenge. > > Tony Whitley > GPLRank +13.5 and therefore in no position to criticise. hi Tony Yes, I enjoy it a lot. I'm pretty slow so far, its a big difference to drive InCar AND Wheel now, but its great to learn. Oh, I think everyone is in a position to criticise(or not), no matter what handicap you have in GPL:-) Wolfgang Woeger Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > I still race with a stick. I've tried a > couple of wheels in the past, but > > > always come back to the stick. Maybe I just > didn't give them enough time. > > > And yes, I find GPL raceable with a stick, > though maybe my +83 handicap > > > attests to the error in my ways! > > Wolfgang Woeger used a stick to set several GPL > world records so that's no > > excuse! He's now seen the error of his ways and > is using a wheel, and going > > much slower (for the time being....) > > > > Tony Whitley > > hi Tony > I dont see any errors in racing with a Joystick. > I didnt see them 30 months in GPL and changing to > wheel now does not mean that I say racing with > Joystick is the wrong way. I just looked for a > new challenge and found it. > thanks > Wolfgang Woeger

Hi Wolfgang, I wasn't intending to criticise, I was just echoing "masten"'s original post. Perhaps I should have put it in quotes. I hope you're enjoying the new challenge. Tony Whitley GPLRank +13.5 and therefore in no position to criticise.