Re: GP3, is it just me?

Exactly same happened to me, haven't played it after the day I bought it. And I'm also wondering those magazines.... You get the impression of it being better than it really is. IMHO GP3 is pile of !"#&"!%/ > I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program buteven > after a few minutes I quit. > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car.Furthermore > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really nomagazine > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basicallythe > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewersactually > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > >

I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program but even after a few minutes I quit. Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car. Furthermore I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really no magazine at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basically the same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewers actually played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money.

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> I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program but even > after a few minutes I quit. > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car. Furthermore > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really no magazine > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basically the > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewers actually > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > > >

Too bad it doesn't work OK for you :( How it runs depends on your cpu, graphics card and controller. Playing GP3 with the right hardware is awesome. Try lower your screen resolution and make sure to disable steering help. You should consider replacing your joystick with a Wheel, preferably a force feedback. -- Greetings Johan N [email hidden]

It's the same thing for me except it's F1 2000. -- Todd S. "Alex Holland" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qkar6$dafci$[email hidden]... > I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program but even > after a few minutes I quit. > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car. Furthermore > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really no magazine > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basically the > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewers actually > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > >

You both have the same problem, you do not play GP3 enough to grow into it. At first it feels strange and not like a car, but after a while you start to understand it's feedback and get a great feeling for the car it simulates. Bart Westra "Marko Viitanen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qkdsd$2r7$[email hidden]... > Exactly same happened to me, haven't played it after the day I bought it. > And I'm also > wondering those magazines.... You get the impression of it being betterthan > it really is. > IMHO GP3 is pile of !"#&"!%/ > > > I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several monthsago, > > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program but > even > > after a few minutes I quit. > > > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling thatyou

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> > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car. > Furthermore > > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really no > magazine > > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basically > the > > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewers > actually > > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been

provided > > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > >

Since I bought the game on release, I've had to accept the fact that my machine isn't capable of running a race without major slowdown at any res. All I do now is the odd practice session at Spa. piii500/192mb/tnt2 Alex Holland <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qkar6$dafci$[email hidden]... > I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program buteven > after a few minutes I quit. > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car.Furthermore > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really nomagazine > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basicallythe > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewersactually > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > >

Make sure steering and traction help are turned off! buzard "Alex Holland" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qkar6$dafci$[email hidden]... > I bought GP3 the moment it appeared in the shops, now several months ago, > but I hardly ever play it. From time to time I startup the program buteven > after a few minutes I quit. > > Reasons: the feeling just isn't right. You never get that feeling that you > actualy drive a car, instead of controlling a view bitmaps with your > joystick. There are to many glithces in the handling of the car.Furthermore > I am very dissapointing with the graphics, which are average at best. > > But the most disappointing to me is that no magazine, and really nomagazine > at all, has written about these flaws. All reviews of GP3 are basicallythe > same, they even have the same screen-shots! And I still have to find the > quality of those screen shots on my game. The conclusions are always the > same: great game, new benchmark etc. I cannot believe the reviewersactually > played the game, I suspect them of printing a text which has been provided > by Hasbro, along with a big bag of money. > >

In article <8qkdsd$2r7$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Exactly same happened to me, haven't played it after the day I bought it. > And I'm also > wondering those magazines.... You get the impression of it being better than > it really is. > IMHO GP3 is pile of !"#&"!%/ > Well, tell me if there is a better F1 sim out there. I think that F1 2000K is good too but not as good as GP3. If you had a little more patience and tried it out properly you might just think otherwise. And for the magazines it's just like "all" other mag's, don't belive everything they print. -- Greetings Johan N [email hidden]

"after a while you start to understand it's feedback" ^ Why do I have to learn to understand it's feedback? feedback _should_ be simulated in steeringwheel (ForceFeedback), but the feedback in gp3 is so terrible and unrealistic, works exactly opposite like it works in a real car, I don't get great feeling without working FF in wheel. I might as well take joystick and "play a game"...I hoped GP3 to be a simulator, but it seems that it's "just an arcade game". "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qksuc$om8$[email hidden]... > You both have the same problem, you do not play GP3 enough to grow intoit. > At first it feels strange and not like a car, but after a while you startto > understand it's feedback and get a great feeling for the car it simulates. > > Bart Westra

You didn't ask for modern F1 sim? WELL....that is really easy one.... Grand Prix Legends of course is the best F1 sim ever made ;D

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> Well, tell me if there is a better F1 sim out there. > I think that F1 2000K is good too but not as good as GP3. > If you had a little more patience and tried it out properly you might > just think otherwise. And for the magazines it's just like "all" other > mag's, don't belive everything they print. > > -- > Greetings > > Johan N > > [email hidden]

It should run fine on that system, I am running on a P2 350 with Voodoo2 and it is fine. Have you tried reducing the mirror detail and maybe using low res textures? Chris -- "Paul Turnbull" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Yesz5.2081$[email hidden]... > Since I bought the game on release, I've had to accept the fact that my > machine isn't capable of running a race without major slowdown at any res. > All I do now is the odd practice session at Spa. > > piii500/192mb/tnt2 >

In article <8qnmf6$huk$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > You didn't ask for modern F1 sim? > > WELL....that is really easy one.... Grand Prix Legends of course is the best > F1 sim ever made ;D > > Well I'm not totally convinced about that and even if I "love" GPL I must admit that it's driving style (sliding around) isn't realistic IMHO. -- Greetings Johan N [email hidden]

Besides the FF there is the visual and audio feedback, which are more important than the FF. Try for instance driving without sound, hard to do and when you manage, no more speed. But anyone can drive without the FF. The point is that you need more than some 5 minute spells to learn this sim. I cannot imagine that you did any serious experimenting with setups in that time, which is essential to learn drive and appreciate any racing sim. Bart Westra "Marko Viitanen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qnm5e$hln$[email hidden]...

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> "after a while you start to understand it's feedback" > > ^ Why do I have to learn to understand it's feedback? feedback _should_ be > simulated in steeringwheel (ForceFeedback), but > the feedback in gp3 is so terrible and unrealistic, works exactly opposite > like it works in a real car, > I don't get great feeling without working FF in wheel. I might as well

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> joystick and "play a game"...I hoped > GP3 to be a simulator, but it seems that it's "just an arcade game". > > "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8qksuc$om8$[email hidden]... > > You both have the same problem, you do not play GP3 enough to grow into > it. > > At first it feels strange and not like a car, but after a while you

start > to > > understand it's feedback and get a great feeling for the car itsimulates. > > > > Bart Westra > > >

Hi Chris, I can run practice at 1280 perfectly with just the mirror textures switched off. Slowdown in race is caused by other cars when appearing up close and from the side. This causes a dramatic performance hit (PO 150-70%) on all resolutions except 640x480 with any NVidia drivers. What settings do you use Chris? Paul Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8qmoj5$qp4$[email hidden]... > It should run fine on that system, I am running on a P2 350 with Voodoo2and

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> it is fine. Have you tried reducing the mirror detail and maybe using low > res textures? > > Chris > -- > > "Paul Turnbull" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Yesz5.2081$[email hidden]... > > Since I bought the game on release, I've had to accept the fact that my > > machine isn't capable of running a race without major slowdown at any

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> > All I do now is the odd practice session at Spa. > > > > piii500/192mb/tnt2 > > > > >

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>Besides the FF there is the visual and audio feedback, which are more >important than the FF. Try for instance driving without sound, hard to do >and when you manage, no more speed. But anyone can drive without the FF. > >The point is that you need more than some 5 minute spells to learn this sim. >I cannot imagine that you did any serious experimenting with setups in that >time, which is essential to learn drive and appreciate any racing sim. > >Bart Westra

Well, not everyone can understand setups, even given 2 YEARS... I don't see that being a prerequisite for enjoying a game. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.67 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <8qodfo$2o5$[email hidden]>, "Bart Westra" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Besides the FF there is the visual and audio feedback, which are more > >important than the FF. Try for instance driving without sound, hard to do > >and when you manage, no more speed. But anyone can drive without the FF. > > > >The point is that you need more than some 5 minute spells to learn this

sim. > >I cannot imagine that you did any serious experimenting with setups inthat > >time, which is essential to learn drive and appreciate any racing sim. > > > >Bart Westra > > Well, not everyone can understand setups, even given 2 YEARS... I don'tsee > that being a prerequisite for enjoying a game. > > Eldred Well Eldred, even to load and try some setups from the net and drive them one would need more than some 5 minute spells. I agree that you can enjoy racing without understanding the setups. But a little experimenting with setup parameters and trying to feel the difference will greatly increase one's understanding of car behaviour i.m.o. And driving only the default setups will not reveal the depths of GP3. Bart Westra

I run at 640x480 with all forward detail and only cars in the mirrors. I also followed the instructions in the readme file and used low res textures by changing the cards.txt file. Chris -- South African GPL Championship http://www.geocities.com/gpl_sa_champs/ "Paul Turnbull" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%UPz5.5336$[email hidden]... > Hi Chris, > > I can run practice at 1280 perfectly with just the mirror textures switched > off. Slowdown in race is caused by other cars when appearing up close and > from the side. This causes a dramatic performance hit (PO 150-70%) on all > resolutions except 640x480 with any NVidia drivers. What settings do you use > Chris? > > Paul > > > Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8qmoj5$qp4$[email hidden]... > > It should run fine on that system, I am running on a P2 350 with Voodoo2 > and > > it is fine. Have you tried reducing the mirror detail and maybe using low > > res textures? > > > > Chris > > -- > > > > "Paul Turnbull" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Yesz5.2081$[email hidden]... > > > Since I bought the game on release, I've had to accept the fact that my > > > machine isn't capable of running a race without major slowdown at any > res. > > > All I do now is the odd practice session at Spa. > > > > > > piii500/192mb/tnt2 > > > > > > > > > > >