I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta
tell you...
The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
possibly even the real thing :)
And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this
non-RC guy.
I can live with the Solstice (somewhat). I find the skippy barely
interesting. I positively HATE the Mazda. The Radical is the first RC car
to really capture my imagination at all.
Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :)
I simply don't do well in under-powered cars. Not sure what that means :)
It was the same for Ovals. Until I got to the trucks, I was a back-marker.
Now I can get top 5's fairly easily.
Larry
Flame wariRacing's Watkins Glen and the Radical, plus pricing gripes
Larry praised iRacing's laser-scanned Watkins Glen and racing the Radical there, though GaryR noted the track was scanned before a repave. Andrew MacPherson questioned whether iRacing could afford to keep tracks current, and Uwe Schürkamp observed RAS discussion of iRacing had dropped off. Requests for pay-per-race pricing and renewed objections to real names led to another round of insults.
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"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on
Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning the
Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with a
good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really helped
a ton.
Ed
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> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta > tell you... > > The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, > possibly even the real thing :) > > And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this > non-RC guy. > > I can live with the Solstice (somewhat). I find the skippy barely > interesting. I positively HATE the Mazda. The Radical is the first RC > car to really capture my imagination at all. > > Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :) > > I simply don't do well in under-powered cars. Not sure what that means :) > It was the same for Ovals. Until I got to the trucks, I was a > back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily. > > LarryMy only issue with the Glen (and Limerock and Summit Point also) is
that they are a year behind on the track surface. All three tracks
have had full repaves (though Summit is coming apart already) and have
no more concrete on them. Not sure what that does for grip (in the
game, I KNOW what it did in RL) but wonder what iRacing intends on
doing about it as they advertise accuracy pretty heavily..
GR
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>On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:52:20 -0600, "Ed Medlin" <ed@ edmedlin.com> wrote: > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... >> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta >> tell you... >> >> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >> possibly even the real thing :) >> >> And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this >> non-RC guy. >> >> I can live with the Solstice (somewhat). I find the skippy barely >> interesting. I positively HATE the Mazda. The Radical is the first RC >> car to really capture my imagination at all. >> >> Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :) >> >> I simply don't do well in under-powered cars. Not sure what that means :) >> It was the same for Ovals. Until I got to the trucks, I was a >> back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily. >> >> Larry > >What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on >Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning the >Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with a >good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really helped >a ton. > >Ed >[email hidden] (GaryR) wrote:
> but wonder what iRacing intends on
> doing about it as they advertise accuracy pretty heavily..
I have absolutely no idea how they will ever be able to afford the updates
necessary to keep a large number of tracks accurate. It will be a real challenge to
match their marketing with the reality. Either one or the other will have to give.
Having said that, even an out of date iRacing track may be more of a selling point
to the real racing fraternity than anything any other sim can offer. But I remain
convinced that's a marketing dead end anyway, and the average simmer isn't going to
be too worried about such things as long as everyone's racing on the same surface.
Not that iRacing's particularly interested in the average simmer at the moment...
but they will be, eventually. Whether they like it or not. :->
Andrew McP
PS Although I've been away again from the iRacing zoo for over three weeks now, and
am currently getting my sim kicks at an incredibly realistic (looking) Nordschleife
in rFactor, I must admit I saw a Radical@WG YouTube clip which made me salivate a
little. It looked like quite a lot of fun to drive.
I just don't fancy paying iRacing for months and months in order to climb the
ladder and finally get the opportunity to race the car. I may not enjoy it in
traffic as much as I think, and my reaction times are probably far better suited to
the Skip Barber.
I've noted the iracing buzz dropping off in RAS quite noticeably from
quite a few msgs a day when it was opened to the public to its current
level... looks like another group of people has left for the forums ;-)
Cheers, Uwe
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I don't know, I mean seems like the posts here are cyclical, when new: lots
of posts. iracing is now technically old news (it seems). Plus, the only
debate seems to be that it is too expensive for some, or too many elitists.
hell, the longest threads seem to be over if you thought it was worth it or
not, instead of anything else about it really. both sides get tired of that
issue.
Like testicles, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or else
it seems too expensive? have you gone to any other thing in your life
(except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a better
deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, compared to the
all day/all ride pass? no.
you still on it, racing Uwe?
"hoover" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I've noted the iracing buzz dropping off in RAS quite noticeably from > quite a few msgs a day when it was opened to the public to its current > level... looks like another group of people has left for the forums ;-) > > Cheers, Uwe > > > --[email hidden] (PlowBoy) wrote:
> iracing is now technically old news (it seems).
Agreed. I think everyone in the sim racing universe now knows where they stand on
the service, which is why current subscription numbers probably represent what the
current business model will support. Growth under that model will now only come
from the great unknown... non simmers.
Andrew McP
"PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?
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> > Like testicles, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or > else it seems too expensive? have you gone to any other thing in your > life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a > better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, compared > to the all day/all ride pass? no. >
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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Hmmmm.....$156 for a year - I've spent more than that on a night on the
town! And for $156 I get not only a first rate sim but a first rate service.
I also don't need to spend countless hours working out where all the tracks
are or how to make this mod work on this server, etc, etc,
etc.........straight into the racing...........as it should be!
Any experienced simmer should identify with the above mentioned hassles
over the years - iRacing solves all of that. How much is that worth?
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> > "PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cSa_k.6216$[email hidden]... > >> >> Like testicles, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or >> else it seems too expensive? have you gone to any other thing in your >> life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a >> better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, >> compared to the all day/all ride pass? no. >> > > Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:27:41 -0600, PlowBoy, wrote:
>
> you still on it, racing Uwe?
>
my subscription expires at the end of December and I have no plans to
renew at the moment, having too much fun with the Screamers Racing
League and the BMW E21's at the moment ;-)
Uwe
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"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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NO SHIT!!!! What the fuk would you be buying if you paid for one month?
DUH!
I dont get it, pay 20 bucks, race 2 races, Fuck it, call it $10 per race?
Tell me, what "per race" deal you want to pay? I mean we're back to you
agreeing to buy a box of popcorn, but want to pay "per handful?" it takes to
fill the box? what difference will that make? you get a box of corn dude,
or dont. Does Tootsie pop sell suckers by the amount of licks they take?
if so then they are cheap as shit, unless you are like the "wise old owl..."
because he only gets 3 licks ya know.
I dont get where you think the "per race fee" could possibly work out better
deal for you me or ANY One else? I bet I race 8 races a week minimum. so
20-30 races per month, & at 15 bucks a month, that is way less than.75 cents
a race.
You Aren't going to race for free, that is about as plain as it gets. I
think you are trying to do the same math, but yer not the seller. You are
thinking you should be able to race a race for a buck? But you got it
backwards, and the transaction fee on the credit card is more than that.
You know damn well as others do, Everything from Beer or Soda POP, Racing it
is always cheaper if/when you can buy in bulk rate.
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> > "PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cSa_k.6216$[email hidden]... > >> >> Like testicles, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or >> else it seems too expensive? have you gone to any other thing in your >> life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got a >> better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, >> compared to the all day/all ride pass? no. >> > > Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance?"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing,
> possibly even the real thing :)
Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.
Wouldn't quite go as far as saying it's anywhere near RL, but it's
very well done. Going up through the S's FO at over 100MPH with the
blue walls just feet away, knowing one mistake = totalled car and a
lot of bouncing, is a bit more intense than sitting at my computer...
GP
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>On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:53:22 -0800, "Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote: >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... > >> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >> possibly even the real thing :) > >Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.The RL starts can be a bit.... hairy as well. This is from the PCA
2008 race at WGI.
http://www.vimeo.com/1122817
8-)
GR
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>On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:26:24 -0500, GaryR <[email hidden]> wrote: >Wouldn't quite go as far as saying it's anywhere near RL, but it's >very well done. Going up through the S's FO at over 100MPH with the >blue walls just feet away, knowing one mistake = totalled car and a >lot of bouncing, is a bit more intense than sitting at my computer... > >GP > >>On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:53:22 -0800, "Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... >> >>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >>> possibly even the real thing :) >> >>Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS.I actually finished 4th in the fun run IIRC. That's amazing for me LOL
But you're right. A lot wrecked out.
Hey, skill, luck, attrition, I don't care. I'll take the spots :)
-Larry
"Ed Medlin" <ed@ edmedlin.com> wrote in message
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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... >> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta >> tell you... >> >> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >> possibly even the real thing :) >> >> And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this >> non-RC guy. >> >> I can live with the Solstice (somewhat). I find the skippy barely >> interesting. I positively HATE the Mazda. The Radical is the first RC >> car to really capture my imagination at all. >> >> Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :) >> >> I simply don't do well in under-powered cars. Not sure what that means >> :) It was the same for Ovals. Until I got to the trucks, I was a >> back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily. >> >> Larry > > What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on > Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning > the Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with > a good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really > helped a ton. > > Ed >They ARE accurate. Accurate as of the time scanned.
You can't possibly expect them to go spend another 100k for a re-scan every
time they change something?
Even Microsoft upgrades aren't THAT expensive LOL
-Larry
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> My only issue with the Glen (and Limerock and Summit Point also) is > that they are a year behind on the track surface. All three tracks > have had full repaves (though Summit is coming apart already) and have > no more concrete on them. Not sure what that does for grip (in the > game, I KNOW what it did in RL) but wonder what iRacing intends on > doing about it as they advertise accuracy pretty heavily.. > > GR > >>On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:52:20 -0600, "Ed Medlin" <ed@ edmedlin.com> wrote: >> >>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... >>> I'm not a huge fan of RC racing (I'm more of an oval hound), but I gotta >>> tell you... >>> >>> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >>> possibly even the real thing :) >>> >>> And racing the Radical at the iRacing WG track is heaven, even for this >>> non-RC guy. >>> >>> I can live with the Solstice (somewhat). I find the skippy barely >>> interesting. I positively HATE the Mazda. The Radical is the first RC >>> car to really capture my imagination at all. >>> >>> Maybe I just need fenders to be happy :) >>> >>> I simply don't do well in under-powered cars. Not sure what that means >>> :) >>> It was the same for Ovals. Until I got to the trucks, I was a >>> back-marker. Now I can get top 5's fairly easily. >>> >>> Larry >> >>What they did with The Glen is amazing. I did a little with the Radical on >>Saturday and it was fun, but a lot of wrecks. A good track for learning >>the >>Skippy is the infield road course at Lowes. I ran some laps there with a >>good RC racer in a practice session to get some lessons and it really >>helped >>a ton. >> >>Ed >> >Oh, so as a non-member you've been able to hack in, see it, determine it's
Hyberbole, and then come to RAS and get your weekly BS out of the way early.
You're welcome.
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:L8AZk.42902$[email hidden]... > >> The quality of the iRacing Watkins Glen track is surpassed by nothing, >> possibly even the real thing :) > > Hyperbole alert! Ignore the OP because he is FOS."Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Oh, so as a non-member you've been able to hack in, see it, determine it's
> Hyberbole, and then come to RAS and get your weekly BS out of the way
> early.
>
> You're welcome.
Well, it's like this, I'm not paying a monthly fee for any game that forces
its users to user their real name. Too, what's the word? Oh yea, fascist.
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Fascist.....lol. When there are at least several dozen professional drivers
using iRacing right now including Dale Earnhardt Jr and Jacques Villenueve
among many others that don't seem to have problems I sure don't worry. It is
a very nice global community and very enjoyable.
Ed
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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IWU%k.2091$[email hidden]... >> Oh, so as a non-member you've been able to hack in, see it, determine >> it's Hyberbole, and then come to RAS and get your weekly BS out of the >> way early. >> >> You're welcome. > > Well, it's like this, I'm not paying a monthly fee for any game that > forces its users to user their real name. Too, what's the word? Oh yea, > fascist.
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have a life. I might only get a chance to race much from month to month.
You can get a pay as you go phone, so why not pay as you go iRacing. I'm not
asking for anything for free, you cunt.
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> > > > "David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message > news:cBc_k.118$[email hidden]... >> >> "PlowBoy," <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:cSa_k.6216$[email hidden]... >> >>> >>> Like testicles, he wants it somehow priced so he can race one race, or >>> else it seems too expensive? have you gone to any other thing in your >>> life (except maybe a carnival or 6-flags park type thing) where you got >>> a better deal only buying tickets for the "rides" you want to ride, >>> compared to the all day/all ride pass? no. >>> >> >> Ok then, why can't I buy x amount of races entries in advance? > > NO SHIT!!!! What the fuk would you be buying if you paid for one month? > DUH!Ed Medlin wrote:
> Fascist.....lol. When there are at least several dozen professional
> drivers using iRacing right now including Dale Earnhardt Jr and Jacques
> Villenueve among many others that don't seem to have problems I sure
> don't worry. It is a very nice global community and very enjoyable.
>
> Ed
Yea, but there are people in the world who must keep their identity
hidden for one reason or another. Ever think of that? Not saying I need
to but am saying it is just wrong to enforce the using of real names. If
you can't see why it is wrong then you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Give us some examples of someone who needs to keep their ID a secret.
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> Ed Medlin wrote: > >> Fascist.....lol. When there are at least several dozen professional >> drivers using iRacing right now including Dale Earnhardt Jr and Jacques >> Villenueve among many others that don't seem to have problems I sure >> don't worry. It is a very nice global community and very enjoyable. >> >> Ed > > Yea, but there are people in the world who must keep their identity hidden > for one reason or another. Ever think of that? Not saying I need to but am > saying it is just wrong to enforce the using of real names. If you can't > see why it is wrong then you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess if someone worked for the CIA or something it would be an issue, but
I am sure that they would be able to get access to a credit card under
another name if they wanted......:-). I really don't think iRacing is
targeting that market much anyway.....:-)
Ed
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> > "Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9G%1l.416756$[email hidden]... >> Ed Medlin wrote: >> >>> Fascist.....lol. When there are at least several dozen professional >>> drivers using iRacing right now including Dale Earnhardt Jr and Jacques >>> Villenueve among many others that don't seem to have problems I sure >>> don't worry. It is a very nice global community and very enjoyable. >>> >>> Ed >> >> Yea, but there are people in the world who must keep their identity >> hidden for one reason or another. Ever think of that? Not saying I need >> to but am saying it is just wrong to enforce the using of real names. If >> you can't see why it is wrong then you need to wake up and smell the >> coffee. > > Give us some examples of someone who needs to keep their ID a secret.On Dec 16, 11:58 pm, Jonathan Mars <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> Yea, but there are people in the world who must keep their identity
> hidden for one reason or another. Ever think of that? Not saying I need
> to but am saying it is just wrong to enforce the using of real names. If
> you can't see why it is wrong then you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
You're absurd non-argument ("for one reason or another" - oh yea. I'm
convinced) would apply to ANY activity. I guess that you can tell me
of real race drivers or athletes who compete under a nickname?
You're simply whining that people want to stay anonymous in the cyber-
world. Fine go ahead, but iRacing is a step between a virtual world
and real world.
If you can't see why people sometimes need to be accountable, wake up
and smell the coffee.
"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Give us some examples of someone who needs to keep their ID a secret.
Off the top of my head, George Bush.
"Ed Medlin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>I really don't think iRacing is targeting that market much anyway.....:-)
You assume all of them are not gamers. I think you assume wrong. They are
just people with the same likes and desires as anyone else. Even Britney
Spears ahs to wipe her ass after taking a dump.
"Bob Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You're simply whining that people want to stay anonymous in the cyber-
world. Fine go ahead, but iRacing is a step between a virtual world
and real world.
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Anyone who thinks the internet is a warm and fuzzy place and there are no
dangers to divulging your real name online is a complete fucking idiot.
There are some people who would be alive today if they were not so naive as
to divulge their identity online. Get a clue moron.
BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing, so they
clearly think there is be room for improvement that may lead to them
collection more money, even if a complete cunt like you doesn't.
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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><FANBOY RANT SNIPPED>
On Dec 17, 12:11 pm, "Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> Anyone who thinks the internet is a warm and fuzzy place and there are no
> dangers to divulging your real name online is a complete fucking idiot.
> There are some people who would be alive today if they were not so naive as
> to divulge their identity online. Get a clue moron.
You're incredibly paranoid. This might have happened, what, one time
out of 50 million? People get seen in public all the time. Don't you
think someone can follow you home from a restaurant? Or do you sneak
out the back door of every public building?
No point in this argument as this name calling and profanity pretty
much IDs you as an immature child, chronologically or mentally.
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:494899b3$[email hidden]...
>
>> Give us some examples of someone who needs to keep their ID a secret.
>
> Off the top of my head, George Bush.
.........or how about off the top of his head with a flying shoe?
So anyway, if Georgy Peorgy went iRacing, apart from the probable
humiliation of his hopeless incompetence as a simmer, what would be the big
danger? And as Ed pointed out (which is what my question was leading to
anyway), would it be hard for George to arrange a fake ID? Come to think of
it...................
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Now that's just fucking stupid. I played football under my real name for
years, plus a load of other sports.
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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IWU%k.2091$[email hidden]... >> Oh, so as a non-member you've been able to hack in, see it, determine >> it's Hyberbole, and then come to RAS and get your weekly BS out of the >> way early. >> >> You're welcome. > > Well, it's like this, I'm not paying a monthly fee for any game that > forces its users to user their real name. Too, what's the word? Oh yea, > fascist.
"Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>> Give us some examples of someone who needs to keep their ID a secret.
>
> Off the top of my head, George Bush.
So how has he managed to keep his ID a secret?
"Bob Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Dec 17, 12:11 pm, "Jonathan Mars" <[email hidden]> wrote:
And he's a cunt.
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> >> Anyone who thinks the internet is a warm and fuzzy place and there are no >>dangers to divulging your real name online is a complete fucking idiot. >> There are some people who would be alive today if they were not so naive >> as >> to divulge their identity online. Get a clue moron. >You're incredibly paranoid. This might have happened, what, one time >out of 50 million? People get seen in public all the time. Don't you >think someone can follow you home from a restaurant? Or do you sneak >out the back door of every public building? >No point in this argument as this name calling and profanity pretty >much IDs you as an immature child, chronologically or mentally.dfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote:
> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing
It's not a very good questionnaire though IMO. You can also only choose one item in
each section, and that's really not a good way of getting useful information. They
should've used the system where you rate everything on a scale if they want
genuinely useful feedback. There's also no 'other' option which allows you to tell
then exactly what you'd want to see changed.
Still, it's interesting that the questionnaire's gone out at all.
Andrew McP
"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Agreed. They should have asked the question: Do some members of the iRacing
community put you off joining? Yes/No
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> dfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote: > >> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing > > It's not a very good questionnaire though IMO. You can also only choose > one item in > each section, and that's really not a good way of getting useful > information. They > should've used the system where you rate everything on a scale if they > want > genuinely useful feedback. There's also no 'other' option which allows you > to tell > then exactly what you'd want to see changed. > > Still, it's interesting that the questionnaire's gone out at all. > > Andrew McPdfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote:
> Do some members of the iRacing
> community put you off joining? Yes/No
Now, now! No need for that. :-)
You're right though, to an extent. Sometimes when reading the forums I have been
known to think 'do I really want to belong to a group of people who think like
this?' Especially the ones who use phrases like 'iRacing may not be for you' when
you suggest changes to broaden the appeal.
There are plenty of decent people on iRacing though. Many subscribers are unhappy
with elements of the package, but stay because there's no viable alternative so far.
Who knows, maybe the survey indicates turnover is higher than they'd hoped, despite
all that waffle about slow, steady growth.
Add more flexibility, not more flaming cars and tracks! It's not rocket science.
Andrew McP
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:11 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Andrew MacPherson wrote:
Indeed, I returned mine a couple of days ago and I found it lacking in
the options department, too. Now I hear JV is on iracing, too? That
might make me re-consider given the prospect of beating him in a race
(nah, just kiddin ;-)
cheers, Uwe
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> dfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote: > >> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing > > It's not a very good questionnaire though IMO. You can also only choose one item in > each section, and that's really not a good way of getting useful information. They > should've used the system where you rate everything on a scale if they want > genuinely useful feedback. There's also no 'other' option which allows you to tell > then exactly what you'd want to see changed. > > Still, it's interesting that the questionnaire's gone out at all. > > Andrew McP"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing, so they
> clearly think there is be room for improvement that may lead to them
> collection more money, even if a complete cunt like you doesn't.
Does it ask if you think forcing users to use their real name is a good idea
or not? Must look strange with 'George Dillweed' hovering above your car.
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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> Agreed. They should have asked the question: Do some members of the
> iRacing community put you off joining? Yes/No
Seeing as you are a member the answer is a big YES to that one.
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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> So how has he managed to keep his ID a secret?
You are quite slow for a Brit. He would need to keep his ID secret in
iRacing to avoid being hounded by haters and fanbois alike. In RL it is a
different matter because he has "people" to take of that for him.
"Bob Simpson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:19ddbc12-d456-441f-993b-You're incredibly paranoid. This might have
happened, what, one time
out of 50 million? People get seen in public all the time. Don't you
think someone can follow you home from a restaurant? Or do you sneak
out the back door of every public building?
The difference is that in RL I am not an asshole and on the internet I am.
Wow, you racing sim fanbois sure are a bit slow on the uptake.
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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> And he's a cunt.
True, but then so are you.
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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> Now that's just fucking stupid. I played football under my real name for
> years, plus a load of other sports.
Then I can only surmise that you are not as much a cunt in RL as you are on
the internet.
Then I can only surmise that you are not as much a***in RL as you are on
the internet.
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> "David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
> news:Hdo2l.29154$[email hidden]...
>> Agreed. They should have asked the question: Do some members of the
>> iRacing community put you off joining? Yes/No
>
> Seeing as you are a member the answer is a big YES to that one.
I'm not a member any more, you twat.
you are a consummate Prick, fuckface. Why do you assume I'm a member?
Second, I can probably pay someone enough money to run cable into my house
to watch one fucking TV show, then have it removed. My fucking question to
you would be is WHY? It doesn't Possibly save you a ficking percent of a
penny.
so, Why DO you think that the monthly fee Divided by how ever many races you
CHOOSE to race, would be less of a bargain if you paid "per fucking" race?
Those pay as you go phones cost damn near double per minute, month to month
and everything else. I say if you need to use a "cell phone" one minute per
month, about every other month, you would be economically ahead to not
fucking buy one. Plus you are Lying to EVERYONE PLUS yourself, because
even the Pay as you go, you buy 20 dollars increments of minutes & some
where near 50-100 dollar phone (use them or lose them minutes too by the
way).
I don't care, I just see you saying "why get married, when you can buy a
hooker, or why buy food from the store when you can got jail and get free
food & Shelter, and more stupid fucking bullshit NON arguments... You are
a dumbass.
Ill tell you What, I Will pick up what iRacing is missing out on, Ill rent
you an account, Stipulation is for you is, the races are PREPAID and per
race fees to me, when the check or PayPal, or what not clears, then you
race, one race or however you pre pay for. how does 10 bucks PER race
sound? and you have to buy Minimum of $50 bucks worth of racing. oh and
all you get is the rookie cars, if you want "all cars" well, it is like
buying the fancy ass phone, to use on the pay per minute plan.
I wont get rich, unless there are a thousand of you idiots out there. I
mean I got to hire a lawyer, pay PayPal or someone to collect your money.
Oh and Qualifying will cost $4, and Time trials will be $8.... each, again
minimums will be 5 of either. if not, as you can guess, it isn't worth my
goddamn time.
By the way it is called capitalism, if (anyone) can make money doing
something they will usually do it. You are apparently used to sucking on
yer mom's tit, because it is there, and somehow you feel "entitled."
"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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>
> "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in 2 different
> messagesI have a life. I might only get a chance to race much from month to month.
You can get a pay as you go phone, so why not pay as you go iRacing. I'm not
asking for anything for free, you cunt.
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> news:[email hidden]... >> dfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote: >> >>> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing >> >> It's not a very good questionnaire though IMO. You can also only choose >> one item in >> each section, and that's really not a good way of getting useful >> information. They >> should've used the system where you rate everything on a scale if they >> want >> genuinely useful feedback. There's also no 'other' option which allows >> you to tell >> then exactly what you'd want to see changed. >> >> Still, it's interesting that the questionnaire's gone out at all. >> >> Andrew McP > > Agreed. They should have asked the question: Do some members of the > iRacing community put you off joining? Yes/NoPlowBoy wrote:
> you are a consummate Prick, fuckface. Why do you assume I'm a member?
> Second, I can probably pay someone enough money to run cable into my
> house to watch one fucking TV show, then have it removed. My fucking
> question to you would be is WHY? It doesn't Possibly save you a ficking
> percent of a penny.
Boy, I sure hope you're just playing the idiot.
Ever heard of pay-per-view? Does everybody need a mobile or internet flatrate?
So, the idea to offer something different to different people is enough to
get you on a fucking rage trip? Man, you're really fucked up.
sneeringly
ronny
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> "David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message > news:Hdo2l.29154$[email hidden]... >> >> "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in 2 >> different messages > I have a life. I might only get a chance to race much from month to month. > You can get a pay as you go phone, so why not pay as you go iRacing. I'm > not > asking for anything for free, you cunt. > >> news:[email hidden]... >>> dfg.myass@aol (David Fisher's Left Testicle) wrote: >>> >>>> BTW, plowprick, I've just been sent a questionnaire from iRacing >>> >>> It's not a very good questionnaire though IMO. You can also only >>> choose one item in >>> each section, and that's really not a good way of getting useful >>> information. They >>> should've used the system where you rate everything on a scale if >>> they want >>> genuinely useful feedback. There's also no 'other' option which >>> allows you to tell >>> then exactly what you'd want to see changed. >>> >>> Still, it's interesting that the questionnaire's gone out at all. >>> >>> Andrew McP >> >> Agreed. They should have asked the question: Do some members of the >> iRacing community put you off joining? Yes/No >Don't be a cunt all your live, leave it out for a day!
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> you are a consummate Prick, fuckface. <BS RANT SNIPPED>
