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Gran Turismo 2 vs. GP3

9 posts by 9 people · 27 Sep 2000 - 29 Sep 2000 00:11 UTC

(unknown) 27 Sep 2000#229095
Can someone give me some comparisons on these two types driving games. I have just completed GT2. This game blew me away. Never had so much fun. Great value. Tons of playing time. Loved the first GT also. Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games stand up to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? I used to be a big Indy Car Game fan several years back. Now with a new High H.P. computer, looking for the latest and greatest. Thanks for any opinions. Chris
Scott Spahr 27 Sep 2000#229096
My first driving game was the original GT and I still love it, but GPL is in a whole 'nuther world. It is by far the best sim I have ever encountered. Be warned, though. Learning to drive GPL is like learning to play a musical instrument or a skillful sport. It takes some time and commitment to reach a level where you can truly enjoy it, and until you reach that point it can be frustrating <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can someone give me some comparisons on these two types driving games. > > I have just completed GT2. This game blew me away. Never had so muchfun. > Great value. Tons of playing time. Loved the first GT also. > > Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games standup
Quoted text (13 lines)> to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? > > > I used to be a big Indy Car Game fan several years back. Now with a new > High H.P. computer, looking for the latest and greatest. > > > Thanks for any opinions. > > Chris > > >
(unknown) 28 Sep 2000#229023
NFSPU lacks the diversity of marques found in GT and GT2, but driving- wise I think it stacks up very nicely -- right up there with SCGT, GT, and GT2, IMO (could I throw a few more acronyms in? <G>). -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Loosay2) wrote: > Gran tourismo 2 is the greatest racing game I have ever played, whenit comes > to its overall apeal, nothing else really comes close. SCGT for thePC with all > of the downloadable tracks, cars, and add ons is probably the closestthing to > GT2 on the PC. GP3 and GPL have somewhat more sophisticated anddemanding > physics models, but not as far from GT2's excellent physics model assome > PC-centric gamers will try to convince you. GPL is very tough to playat first, > mostly because the cars it is modeling are ultralite 450 HP rocketswith no > downforce and relatively poor tires by todays racing standards. > Gpl gets to be fun after awhile as you get the hang of it, but itlacks the > variety of having 500 cars and numerous mods at your disposal. > GT2 is kind of a racing RPG by comparison. GP3 is a modern f1 simwith easier > to drive cars than GPL, downforce wide slicks and all well modelled,but rather > different from GT2, which is about racing street cars and modifedstreetcars > mainly. Both GPL and GP3 are great fun , but not nearly as fun for meas GT2. > If you liked > GT2 then you may find SCGT and Viper Racing on the PC to be more toyour > liking. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Loosay2 28 Sep 2000#229052
Gran tourismo 2 is the greatest racing game I have ever played, when it comes to its overall apeal, nothing else really comes close. SCGT for the PC with all of the downloadable tracks, cars, and add ons is probably the closest thing to GT2 on the PC. GP3 and GPL have somewhat more sophisticated and demanding physics models, but not as far from GT2's excellent physics model as some PC-centric gamers will try to convince you. GPL is very tough to play at first, mostly because the cars it is modeling are ultralite 450 HP rockets with no downforce and relatively poor tires by todays racing standards. Gpl gets to be fun after awhile as you get the hang of it, but it lacks the variety of having 500 cars and numerous mods at your disposal. GT2 is kind of a racing RPG by comparison. GP3 is a modern f1 sim with easier to drive cars than GPL, downforce wide slicks and all well modelled, but rather different from GT2, which is about racing street cars and modifed streetcars mainly. Both GPL and GP3 are great fun , but not nearly as fun for me as GT2. If you liked GT2 then you may find SCGT and Viper Racing on the PC to be more to your liking.
Kimmy 28 Sep 2000#229063
> > >Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games standup > >to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? > > Yes. > > Buy GPL for 20 bucks or so and see for yourself.. ;) except dont try and play it with a game pad >
Chris Bloom 28 Sep 2000 04:29 UTC#229130
Didn't he ask for a comparison between Gran Tourismo 2 and GP3? Chris "Scott Spahr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > My first driving game was the original GT and I still love it, but GPL isin > a whole 'nuther world. It is by far the best sim I have ever encountered. > Be warned, though. Learning to drive GPL is like learning to play amusical > instrument or a skillful sport. It takes some time and commitment toreach > a level where you can truly enjoy it, and until you reach that point itcan
Quoted text (16 lines)> be frustrating > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can someone give me some comparisons on these two types driving games. > > > > I have just completed GT2. This game blew me away. Never had so much > fun. > > Great value. Tons of playing time. Loved the first GT also. > > > > Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games stand > up > > to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? > > > >
>Didn't he ask for a comparison between Gran Tourismo 2 and GP3? > >Chris > No. "Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games stand up to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does?" Clive Nicholson. "He's a complete idiot. He couldn't get stung in a beehive." - Barry Sheene. "Don't worry. It's not loaded..." - Famous Last Words. "I've got a steering wheel down my pants. It's driving me nuts." Remove the nospam if you want to get through.
David Masten 28 Sep 2000 13:36 UTC#228998
In article <[email hidden]>, <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can someone give me some comparisons on these two types driving games. Wow, what a topic! [reversing the order of his post a bit...] >I used to be a big Indy Car Game fan several years back. Now with a new >High H.P. computer, looking for the latest and greatest. Do you mean Indy Car Racing (Papyrus' title)? If so, you know what to expect from a title such as GP3. But just asking out of the blue for a comparison to GT2 leaves me guessing as to what you really mean or expect. >I have just completed GT2. This game blew me away. Never had so much fun. >Great value. Tons of playing time. Loved the first GT also. I bought a PSX just for GT, then also got GT2. So, as some you'll find here, I would have been asking the reverse of your Q (ie, is it worth getting a PSC, or DC, for *their* racing titles). BTW, I think GT and GT2 are terrific. Nothing quite like them on the PC (which is why I got the PSX). >Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games stand up >to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? More real. Physics at least as realistic, many will say a lot moreso (won't get into a war over it, but most race sim fans will be happy with any of these). The racing AI is far, far superior to GT2's. Race against more opponents, on real tracks, with higher res graphics. Basically, they are superior to GT2 in all ways, EXCEPT, the number and type of cars offered. Oh, no Rob Zombie alas :-) If I were you, I would not get GPL. Not unless you are willing to spend 100's of hrs to get competent (then again, you did say you "completed" GT2, so maybe you have that perseverance). Playing GPL is an act of commitment. For the record, I'm in a commitment stage :-) Games I'd recommend: NFS: Porsche Unleased. Closer to the console titles in game style. Decent physics, a fair number of cars, fake tracks, a few racing opponents, console-like gameplay, and a lot of fun. Nascar Heat or Nascar 3. If you are into Nascar. F1-2000 or GP3 (depending on CPU, F12K needs about the best). There are also some motorcycle titles, SBK2000 (is 2001 out?) come to mind. Incredible graphics, but tough to drive them bikes. All of the latter titles are based on racing on real tracks, against tough opponents, with realistic physics, good-to-excellent graphics. They are far better with a good controller (a good joystick, plus I'd recommend adding pedals, then perhaps a decent steering wheel). They are not based on console-like unlock tracks/cars/upgrades gameplay. Generally, for a *simmer*, they are far superior to what consoles have to offer (the DC's F355 Challenge perhaps an exception). As entertainment, that's less clear. If only they made a GT2-like title...
Simon Brown 29 Sep 2000 00:11 UTC#228982
It's hard to judge these games against each other, since I only ever played Gran Turismo on a digital pad (although I did complete every league), and it was the original and not GT2, but if you are after that same 'feel' that the GT games have, you will find it in Grand Prix Legends and not in GP3. GP3 doesn't have that 'dynamic' feel that GT has, partly because modern F1 cars have rock hard suspension, but also I'm not convinced the physics are as good as they could have been. If you need modern F1, then despite it's flaws, F1 2000 has a better 'feel' than GP3, but I highly recommend getting Grand Prix Legends. It has physics to surpass the GT games, plus damage, great graphics, fabulous sound and a learning curve that goes on forever. You can feel the body roll and the tyres squeal when you throw the cars about, just like GT. It's definitely the game you are looking for. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can someone give me some comparisons on these two types driving games. > > I have just completed GT2. This game blew me away. Never had so muchfun. > Great value. Tons of playing time. Loved the first GT also. > > Now, I am looking for a new challenge. Will the GP3 and GPL games standup
Quoted text (9 lines)> to the console games. Do they feel as "real" as GT2 does? > > I used to be a big Indy Car Game fan several years back. Now with a new > High H.P. computer, looking for the latest and greatest. > > > Thanks for any opinions. > > Chris

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