SV What does it mean ?

I always thought I was computer savvy but what does SV stand for?

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:01:21 GMT, [email hidden] (Mike Dietz) wrote: >I always thought I was computer savvy but what does SV stand for? IN this case it is short for "Svar" you see it where you would normally see "Re" It is Swedish, I think, for "Re."

OMG... please do your homework... Fact: Steve Jobs was invited to Xerox - PARC to be more specific, and subsequently told Bill Gates to go have a gander too. The reason they were was simple: Xerox didn't do a damn thing with the pure genius they had at Palo Alto Research Centre. I need only remind you that every single one of those people are multi-millionaires (and some multi-billionaires) for branching out into their own specialized field (ie the guy who created 3COM... he was their networking specialist at PARC). We can even go back to DOS... where Bill Gates was approached FIRST by IBM... but actually referred them to another gentleman who programmed an OS for the first run of PCs. The problem was... that guy's wife basically told IBM to go stuff... so they went back to Gates. Gates said "Well if they aren't going to jump on this.... I sure as hell am..." Then IBM made the mistake of only "licensing" the OS... instead of BUYING it outright. Hence the birth of Microsoft. Now we get back to the GUI issue. Steve Jobs ran off and stole PARCs ideas first. Then Bill said "If you guys aren't going to protect your GUI idea.... I'm not going to get left behind... I'll do it too..." Now for where Apple went SERIOUSLY wrong... They went head-to-head with IBM... instead of capitalizing on the situation like Bill did. Instead... Steve Jobs said "screw IBM.... I'm going to be bigger and better..." 1 BIG problem there though... IBM was already DEEPLY rooted in the business community (because of past services products they had supplied BEFORE the desktop). So... the majority of big business went for IBM (and MSs) solution. Windows then incorporated business applications (at the time known as "killer apps")... which generated an even stronger demand for IBMs desktops in the TOTAL business community (not just the BIG BIZ co.). Then their sales took off.... Now..... a few years back there was a huge push in the world regarding education, and the role of computers in that arena. For the most part..... Apple had that area covered. However..... most of the businesses out there were using DOS/Win on IBM based PCs...... but yet the schools were teaching Apple OS. This caused a BIG rift. So.... education being in the field of "training students for the real world" quickly realized that teaching Apple OS was a poor idea...... so they switched to PC based. WHAMO... Apple just lost it's BIGGEST single sector (in lump size I mean). That is when Apple went down BIG..... and were subsequently bailed out from extinction by none other than: MS, IBM, and Motorola (to name a few). So you see..... game developers are simply providing products for the MASSES.... it is a stupid business decision to do otherwise.... The whole situation is NOT because Gates was a schrewd and calculating thief. It is because during the infancy of the desktop market...... he was surrounded by complete MORONS for competition. Basically..... the Harvard student..... made more use of his resources and made better business decisions than the long-haired hippies who were originally interested in electronics, and stumbled onto something they could not handle in the biz world. Oh.... and BTW...... DirectX is not what is holding back the game developers from creaating ULTRA realistic games. It is hardware.... I can remember having to wait days for a 30 second 3d animation rendering to be completed before I could see something that was far less complex than what is in current games (back in the 133MHz days..... and 2MB videocards were the bomb...) It was always a hardware thing.... In fact..... if the games were APIed for OpenGL..... and you ran out and grabbed a "Professional VidCard" (for about $10,000.00) you would see magic on the screen. It's a matter now of working with what the market has settled into to: DirectX (on vid cards) Maybe 3Dfx (but losing ground daily) Microsoft OS (because the game developers would be foolish to NOT design for 80%+ in the world market) My 2 cents, Cheers, Schumi P.S. No my last name isn't Gates..... and I do disagree with many of his manouvers over the years..... but he did not crush the world.... the world stepped aside... he capitalized on it. "Thomas JS Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Well I wasn't aware that I was being elitist, but I guess my point is > that Gates and Co. didn't invent the PC or the GUI and what makes it the > predominant OS is the fact that Gates is a shrewd and cunning > businessman. Yes, he's been philanthropic, and yes we all love the > variety of applications for Windows, but that doesn't excuse the fact > that he's crushed competition (illegally) which is what is supposed to > drive innovation. > > TJ > Stephen Ferguson wrote: > > > > Xerox didn't bring it to the market. Apple couldn't sell their Lisa.

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> > it or not, MS brought the GUI to the masses. Why does everyone get all > > elitist about it? Yeah, I like my Linux machine, but I also like the > > availability of applications for Windows. > > > > -- > > Stephen > > > > Thomas JS Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this

Microsoft-bashing > > > > crusade. > > > > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn'tbe > > > > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you arecapable

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> > of > > > > doing on a PC. > > > > > > No offense Bruce but... > > > > > > Don't you mean that **if it weren't for a small R&D team at Xerox that > > > had thier GUI sold out (actually I think it was given for free) from > > > under them to Steve Jobs and his Apple crew which was then back > > > engineered (pirated/stolen) by Bill Gates and his MS crew to make > > > Windoze** that you wouldn't be reading this?? > > > > > > TJ

C'mon Bruce... everyone knows that Direct X is the only thing holding back the game developers. Why, if they weren't shackled to Gate's poor vision of an OS and 3D API, we'd all have holographic displays beaming life size images into our living rooms at 250 frames per second, and the computers would fit in our pockets, cost $10 and never crash. The man is obviously an idiot and is single-handedly holding back the computer industry. By the way, I hear Frank has a brilliant new OS which he will be unveiling next week. :-) -- Stephen Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > crusade. > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of > doing on a PC. > > There are far worse things in this world than Microsoft and far worse people > than Bill Gates. > > I wish that I had one percent of one percent of what he's given away to > charities. > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Z37H5.345647$[email hidden]... > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > > > > > > >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > > > > > > But why? > > > > Because it's Microsoft. > > > > "What do you want to break today?" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- May the Downforce be with you... > > -- http://www.WeRace.net > > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't > realise > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > > > > > > >

Xerox didn't bring it to the market. Apple couldn't sell their Lisa. Like it or not, MS brought the GUI to the masses. Why does everyone get all elitist about it? Yeah, I like my Linux machine, but I also like the availability of applications for Windows. -- Stephen Thomas JS Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > > crusade. > > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of > > doing on a PC. > > No offense Bruce but... > > Don't you mean that **if it weren't for a small R&D team at Xerox that > had thier GUI sold out (actually I think it was given for free) from > under them to Steve Jobs and his Apple crew which was then back > engineered (pirated/stolen) by Bill Gates and his MS crew to make > Windoze** that you wouldn't be reading this?? > > TJ

[email hidden] (David Buttery) writes: > On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > > >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > > But why? I can't think of any other Swedish words that are in common > international use like this[1]. broken internationalization of Microsoft Outlook (and a few others, but this is the most common). -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gnus don't kill people. gnus-summary-lower-score kills people.

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > crusade. > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. why's that? are you too stupid to use anything other than Windows? -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

"Kenneth Verburg" <[email hidden]> writes: > > "Ombudsman" comes from norwegian, btw... ;-) > > As far as I know Ombudsman is a Dutch word (trust me, I'm a Dutchman). Also > used in English are "gratis" and (unfortunately) "apartheid". Main Entry: om�buds�man Pronunciation: '�m-"budz-m&n, 'om-, -b&dz-, -"man; �m-'budz-, om- Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural om�buds�men /-m&n/ Etymology: Swedish, literally, representative, from Old Norse umbothsmathr, from umboth commission + mathr man Date: 1959 1 : a government official (as in Sweden or New Zealand) appointed to receive and investigate complaints made by individuals against abuses or capricious acts of public officials 2 : one that investigates reported complaints (as from students or consumers), reports findings, and helps to achieve equitable settlements - om�buds�man�ship /-"ship/ noun Main Entry: gra�tis Pronunciation: 'gra-t&s, 'grA- Function: adverb or adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Latin gratiis, gratis, from ablative plural of gratia favor -- more at GRACE Date: 15th century : without charge or recompense : FREE Main Entry: apart�heid Pronunciation: &-'p�r-"tAt, -"tIt Function: noun Etymology: Afrikaans, from Dutch, from apart apart + -heid -hood Date: 1947 1 : racial segregation; specifically : a policy of segregation and political and economic discrimination against non-European groups in the Republic of So. Africa 2 : SEPARATION, SEGREGATION <I favor apartheid of smokers -- L. E. Bellin> <sexual apartheid> one out of three. could do worse. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 DE RECTIS NON TOLERANDUM EST

"Ombudsman" comes from norwegian, btw... ;-) And there is another word from norwegian too: "A Quisling" LOL! ---Asgeir--- David Buttery wrote:

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> On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > > >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > > But why? I can't think of any other Swedish words that are in common > international use like this[1]. > > [1] Ombudsman and Smorgasbord excepted. > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) > The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - > Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." But why? I can't think of any other Swedish words that are in common international use like this[1]. [1] Ombudsman and Smorgasbord excepted. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote > On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > > >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > > But why? Because it's Microsoft. "What do you want to break today?" -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

> Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > crusade. > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of > doing on a PC. No offense Bruce but... Don't you mean that **if it weren't for a small R&D team at Xerox that had thier GUI sold out (actually I think it was given for free) from under them to Steve Jobs and his Apple crew which was then back engineered (pirated/stolen) by Bill Gates and his MS crew to make Windoze** that you wouldn't be reading this?? TJ

Well I wasn't aware that I was being elitist, but I guess my point is that Gates and Co. didn't invent the PC or the GUI and what makes it the predominant OS is the fact that Gates is a shrewd and cunning businessman. Yes, he's been philanthropic, and yes we all love the variety of applications for Windows, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he's crushed competition (illegally) which is what is supposed to drive innovation. TJ Stephen Ferguson wrote:

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> > Xerox didn't bring it to the market. Apple couldn't sell their Lisa. Like > it or not, MS brought the GUI to the masses. Why does everyone get all > elitist about it? Yeah, I like my Linux machine, but I also like the > availability of applications for Windows. > > -- > Stephen > > Thomas JS Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > > > crusade. > > > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > > > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable > of > > > doing on a PC. > > > > No offense Bruce but... > > > > Don't you mean that **if it weren't for a small R&D team at Xerox that > > had thier GUI sold out (actually I think it was given for free) from > > under them to Steve Jobs and his Apple crew which was then back > > engineered (pirated/stolen) by Bill Gates and his MS crew to make > > Windoze** that you wouldn't be reading this?? > > > > TJ

Sv is short for Svar which means reply in Swedish, Norwegian and Danish. It appears automatically on the subject line of mail programs in those languages, when replying to mail. regards Graham daxe wrote:

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> > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:01:21 GMT, [email hidden] (Mike Dietz) wrote: > > >I always thought I was computer savvy but what does SV stand for? > > IN this case it is short for "Svar" > > you see it where you would normally see "Re" > > It is Swedish, I think, for "Re."

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > I wish that I had one percent of one percent of what he's given away to > charities. Usually in the name of self-interest. :-/ Like not too long ago, he made a multi-million dollar donation to some public library. So they could by more computers. You can about bet those new machines won't be running either Linux, Apple, or *BSD as it's OS. ;) I'd feel a little more warm & fuzzy towards him if he was putting food in people's stomach or food on their back, etc., instead of such self-serving nonsense. -- Chuck Kandler Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

It seems to me that the acts of "making a multi-million dollar donation" and "being able to sell more computers" cancel each other out, and what you are left with is the fact that he, in essence, GAVE free computers to the library. So, how is this self-serving? (and, please, spare me the tired old diatribe about how he is getting more of the public hooked on his s/w in order to make his company more of a monopoly...) Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Usually in the name of self-interest. :-/ Like not too long ago, he >made a multi-million dollar donation to some public library. So they >could by more computers. You can about bet those new machines won't be >running either Linux, Apple, or *BSD as it's OS. ;) I'd feel a little >more warm & fuzzy towards him if he was putting food in people's stomach >or food on their back, etc., instead of such self-serving nonsense.

> "Ombudsman" comes from norwegian, btw... ;-) As far as I know Ombudsman is a Dutch word (trust me, I'm a Dutchman). Also used in English are "gratis" and (unfortunately) "apartheid". -- Kenneth Verburg Editor-in-Chief, High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com

Now *there's* a term you don't see much any more, although there are probably ten times more of them in the world now than during WWII... BB Asgeir Nesoen wrote: > > And there is another word from norwegian too: "A Quisling" LOL! > > ---Asgeir---

Stephen Ferguson wrote: > ... By the way, I hear Frank has a brilliant new OS which he will be unveiling > next week. :-) MENARD-O-VISION!

Another previously invisible troll heard from... Gunnar Horrigmo wrote: > why's that? are you too stupid to use anything other than Windows? > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibox: 2 > gitaren er en sjingke

On 18 Oct 2000 00:53:05 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote:

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>On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > >>It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > >But why? I can't think of any other Swedish words that are in common >international use like this[1]. > >[1] Ombudsman and Smorgasbord excepted.

Sex! Sweden owns the trademark for that one. /petern

HAA! (snip) I hear Frank has a brilliant new OS which he will be unveiling next week. (unsnip) Probably called "Why, Menard?" -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stephen Ferguson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39ed9d24$[email hidden]... > C'mon Bruce...

No....I meant what I said. You can take the greatest team of developers in the world but unless the product is marketed with vigour it's worth is bugger-all. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Thomas JS Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > No offense Bruce but... > > Don't you mean that **if it weren't for a small R&D team at Xerox that > had thier GUI sold out (actually I think it was given for free) from > under them to Steve Jobs and his Apple crew which was then back > engineered (pirated/stolen) by Bill Gates and his MS crew to make > Windoze** that you wouldn't be reading this?? > > TJ

Guess I must be, Gunnar. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > why's that? are you too stupid to use anything other than Windows? >

What rubbish. Rupert Murdoch has a stranglehold on the information industry but it doesn't seem to have crushed competition. Lord Thomson of Fleet had a stranglehold on the newspaper industry and it didn't stop competition........from Murdoch, if I recall. There was a time when Marconi and Bell had strangleholds on wireless and telephone and it didn't stop competition. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Thomas JS Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well I wasn't aware that I was being elitist, but I guess my point is > that Gates and Co. didn't invent the PC or the GUI and what makes it the > predominant OS is the fact that Gates is a shrewd and cunning > businessman. Yes, he's been philanthropic, and yes we all love the > variety of applications for Windows, but that doesn't excuse the fact > that he's crushed competition (illegally) which is what is supposed to > drive innovation.

I'd still like one percent of one percent of what he's given away. Whether it was/is for computers or plates of hot soup or I don't give a rat's arse. It's his money and what he does with it is his business. I never implied a feeling of warmth or fuzziness; he is a cunning, ruthless, possibly conniving, businessman who has had an extraordinarily-large amount of good fortune (literally). No reason to pillory him. I wish I'd had the same opportunity as he did. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > I wish that I had one percent of one percent of what he's given away to > > charities. > > > Usually in the name of self-interest. :-/ Like not too long ago, he > made a multi-million dollar donation to some public library. So they > could by more computers. You can about bet those new machines won't be > running either Linux, Apple, or *BSD as it's OS. ;) I'd feel a little > more warm & fuzzy towards him if he was putting food in people's stomach > or food on their back, etc., instead of such self-serving nonsense. > > -- > Chuck Kandler > > Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses > > Registered Linux User #180746 > http://counter.li.org

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > Probably called "Why, Menard?" Hmmm, you shouldn't pronounce my nickname this way, mate ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > crusade. Whoa back-off a little Bruce. I'm no MS basher, I'm just stating that Outlook Express has a major bug that the programmers haven't fix since a long time. > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of > doing on a PC. How do you know? Your implying that without Microsoft the world would be worse. You have no knowledge of what would have happened, it's impossible to predict. Don't tell us you have magical powers that transport you into other parallax dimensions. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Hi Bruce, long time no "see" :o) Unfortenately I'm currently "driving" a swedish version of Outlook Express, so the thread starter is in my subject... So be it. Given the same amount of incredible luck as Bill has had, I dont think you would have made the same fortune. I dont think you have his ruthlessness. /Chrille, hasn't been sim racing for over six months... Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[email hidden]... > I'd still like one percent of one percent of what he's given away. Whether > it was/is for computers or plates of hot soup or I don't give a rat'sarse. > It's his money and what he does with it is his business. > > I never implied a feeling of warmth or fuzziness; he is a cunning,ruthless, > possibly conniving, businessman who has had an extraordinarily-largeamount

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> of good fortune (literally). No reason to pillory him. > > I wish I'd had the same opportunity as he did. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > > > > > I wish that I had one percent of one percent of what he's given away

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> > > charities. > > > > > > Usually in the name of self-interest. :-/ Like not too long ago, he > > made a multi-million dollar donation to some public library. So they > > could by more computers. You can about bet those new machines won't be > > running either Linux, Apple, or *BSD as it's OS. ;) I'd feel a little > > more warm & fuzzy towards him if he was putting food in people's stomach > > or food on their back, etc., instead of such self-serving nonsense. > > > > -- > > Chuck Kandler > > > > Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses > > > > Registered Linux User #180746 > > http://counter.li.org > >

Bruce Kennewell wrote:

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> > I'd still like one percent of one percent of what he's given away. Whether > it was/is for computers or plates of hot soup or I don't give a rat's arse. > It's his money and what he does with it is his business. > > I never implied a feeling of warmth or fuzziness; he is a cunning, ruthless, > possibly conniving, businessman who has had an extraordinarily-large amount > of good fortune (literally). No reason to pillory him. > > I wish I'd had the same opportunity as he did.

What more can I say? Cheers, mate! :-) -- Chuck Kandler Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

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> > It seems to me that the acts of "making a multi-million dollar > donation" and "being able to sell more computers" cancel each other > out, and what you are left with is the fact that he, in essence, GAVE > free computers to the library. So, how is this self-serving? (and, > please, spare me the tired old diatribe about how he is getting more > of the public hooked on his s/w in order to make his company more of a > monopoly...)

So you ask me a question & then forbid what you already know to be an answer for it? :-/ -- Chuck Kandler Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

Scuderia Veloce.......an Australian-owned (David MacKay) and based racing team of the 1960's which ran (amongst other cars) a Ferrari 250LM. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Mike Dietz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I always thought I was computer savvy but what does SV stand for?

Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing crusade. If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of doing on a PC. There are far worse things in this world than Microsoft and far worse people than Bill Gates. I wish that I had one percent of one percent of what he's given away to charities. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Z37H5.345647$[email hidden]... > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote > > On Tue 17 Oct 2000 10:25:38p, daxe wrote: > > > > >It is Swedish, I think, for "Re." > > > > But why? > > Because it's Microsoft. > > "What do you want to break today?" > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

Frank, what on EARTH (or elsewhere, come to think of it) are you smoking, injecting and/or imbibing? I'm implying that the world would be WORSE?! Parallax dimensions?! Where do you GET this stuff from?! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hlpH5.360063$[email hidden]... > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Never ceases to be a source of amazement to me, this Microsoft-bashing > > crusade. > > > Whoa back-off a little Bruce. I'm no MS basher, I'm just stating that > Outlook Express has a major bug that the programmers haven't fix since a > long time. > > > If it weren't for Gates, you wouldn't be reading this. You wouldn't be > > playing GPL. You wouldn't be doing half the things that you are capable of > > doing on a PC. > > > How do you know? Your implying that without Microsoft the world would be > worse. You have no knowledge of what would have happened, it's impossible > to predict. Don't tell us you have magical powers that transport you into > other parallax dimensions. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.WeRace.net > -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

On Wed 18 Oct 2000 06:28:06p, Barton Brown wrote: >Now *there's* a term you don't see much any more, although there are >probably ten times more of them in the world now than during WWII...<snip> Actually, the word "quisling" was used on BBC2 only the other night, in Simon Schama's (excellent) "A Hisotry of Britain" programme about Edward I of England (so there <g>). -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

On Wed 18 Oct 2000 07:04:21p, Peter Nilsson wrote: <snip> >Sex! Sweden owns the trademark for that one. Not Denmark? Holland? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

On Wed 18 Oct 2000 03:39:09p, Graham Healey wrote: >Sv is short for Svar which means reply in Swedish, Norwegian and Danish. > >It appears automatically on the subject line of mail programs in those >languages, when replying to mail.<snip> Good heavens - a sensible answer! Thank you, sir :) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Bag, by the way, is another Scandinavian word.... sorry to bore you all! -- Colin Harris Bomber Racing: Http://fullspeed.to/Bomber ICQ 25485061

David Buttery wrote: > > Actually, the word "quisling" was used on BBC2 only the other night, in > Simon Schama's (excellent) "A Hisotry of Britain" programme about Edward > I of England (so there <g>). As in Edward Longshanks, who destroyed Welsh autonomy and swiped the Stone of Scone, among other misdeeds that included killing off several of his relatives? "Quisling" is a bit of an anachronistic term in a discussion of 13th century politics, but who am I to quibble about Quislings?

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:41:53 GMT, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: >As in Edward Longshanks, who destroyed Welsh autonomy and swiped the >Stone of Scone, among other misdeeds that included killing off several >of his relatives? It was with great displeasure that my own Mother told me of her tracing of my heritage back to this charming fellow. She has it on paper, backed up with a truly astonishing pile of reference materials. ~daxe

At least you're of royal blood -- can't you claim an earldom or at least something nice from the Queen? See if you can get Goodwood (Earl of March, isn't it?)-- we'll ALL come visit! BB daxe wrote: > Edward Longshanks...my own Mother told me of her > tracing of my heritage back to this charming fellow.>

Barton, whilst I don't have any royal blood in my veins, one of my ancestors was William Pitt the Younger. I haven't been able to determine whether or not that is a good or bad thing! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > At least you're of royal blood -- can't you claim an earldom or at least > something nice from the Queen? See if you can get Goodwood (Earl of > March, isn't it?)-- we'll ALL come visit! > > BB > > daxe wrote: > > > Edward Longshanks...my own Mother told me of her > > tracing of my heritage back to this charming fellow.>

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Barton, whilst I don't have any royal blood in my veins, one of my ancestors > was William Pitt the Younger. > I haven't been able to determine whether or not that is a good or bad thing! Better than Royal! Author of one of the best comeback lines in history: Pitt was quite unpopular among the British upper classes for his support of American Independence. Once, upon returning to England after a long sojourn in the colonies, he was reproached by an English Lady of Tory sympathies who said to him "Ah, Mr. Pitt ... have you been speaking as much nonsense as usual?" To which Pitt replied: "That I cannot say, ma'am; but since I last saw your Ladyship I'm certain I've not *heard* so much." Gotta love him!

Daxe -- I neglected to mention that my grandmother was born in Dundee, Scotland, of Clan Wallace -- whose most famous Laird was Sir William Wallace, whom your ancestor Edward Longshanks had divided into several pieces... BB daxe wrote: > Edward Longshanks...It was with great displeasure that my own Mother > told me of her tracing of my heritage back to this charming fellow. > She has it on paper, backed up with a truly astonishing pile of > reference materials. > > ~daxe

On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:06:10 GMT, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: >Daxe -- > >I neglected to mention that my grandmother was born in Dundee, Scotland, >of Clan Wallace -- whose most famous Laird was Sir William Wallace, whom >your ancestor Edward Longshanks had divided into several pieces... But the real question is: Is ymenard related to Sophie Marceau? ~daxe

daxe wrote: > > But the real question is: > > Is ymenard related to Sophie Marceau? It would certainly be a vastly redeeming quality... BB

>"Barton Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > daxe wrote: > > > Is ymenard related to Sophie Marceau? > It would certainly be a vastly redeeming quality... I wish I was related to Laetitia Casta, but that's another thing ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:52:25 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well, he's CERTAINLY not related to Marcel Marceau! You may have hit on something here, Bruce. Perhaps the popularity of Usenet may be partly attributable to the complete lack of mimes. http://thefunnybone.com/ihmc/index.shtml ~daxe

HAAAAA!! LOL!! Thanks Daxe...I needed an early laugh before heading off to work! :-) -- BK --------------------------- daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:52:25 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Well, he's CERTAINLY not related to Marcel Marceau! > > You may have hit on something here, Bruce. > > Perhaps the popularity of Usenet may be partly attributable to the > complete lack of mimes. > > http://thefunnybone.com/ihmc/index.shtml > > ~daxe >

"daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote > Perhaps the popularity of Usenet may be partly attributable to the > complete lack of mimes. > > http://thefunnybone.com/ihmc/index.shtml Nice link, that clearly made my day ;) Technically, we are all mimes on the Usenet. We never speak, we use our hands to send our thoughts! -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Well, he's CERTAINLY not related to Marcel Marceau! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Is ymenard related to Sophie Marceau? > > ~daxe

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> "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Perhaps the popularity of Usenet may be partly attributable to the > > complete lack of mimes. > > > > http://thefunnybone.com/ihmc/index.shtml > > Nice link, that clearly made my day ;) > > Technically, we are all mimes on the Usenet. We never speak, we use our > hands to send our thoughts! >

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