F1WGP patch available now from Lankhor

FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can download it at: http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but I have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakes and brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to do some testing with the patch installed. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> Which just makes me wonder even more why everybody's so smitten with > GP3. F12K is a great sim, F1WGP is a great entry-level F1 racer (not a > sim, and better than a NFS3-type arcade racer), whereas GP3 is, well, > not all that much more than a rehash of GP2. Like I said, it baffles > me. while I agree that F1WGP is a very good game on its own (if you read through the archives you'll find a post where I recommend it very much), GP2 is IMO still a much better racing simulation than both F12K and F1WGP. F1WGP, especially with the new patch, is a real fun arcade racer for everyones instant enjoyment. F1-2000 was an experiment on just how unfinished and unoptimized a piece of software can be and still sell well - that said, F1-2001 (or however it will be called) might turn out to be a big surprise if ISI can get it together for the 2nd try. But in their current state, none of these games plays in the same league as GP3 which is a evolution and not a rehash of GP2, in fact it's quite different from GP2, apparently different enough for some people that were GP2 fans 4 years ago to dislike it. GP3 has a very distinct driving model that feels closer to real contemporary open-wheel racing than any other sim I've tried (including GPL). It features dynamic weather that even the "we'll give you everything" West Brothers themselves admit they'll have a hard time coming close to that level of realism and immersion. It shows you graphics that are maybe not using the most recent graphics card technology, but are unparalleled for providing lifelike, realistic pictures. I've show both GP3 and F1-2000 to people who know nothing about computers at all at trade shows and racing events. They pretty much all prefered the look and feel of GP3 over F1-2000, so what baffles me is how negative GP3 is received by the "hardcore" pc gamer crowd and / or the GPL community. I guess it all comes down to high expectations and personal disappointment about the fact that GP3 seems to be developed more for the Formula One fan that happens to own a computer than for the "serious" PC Gamer that happens to play an F1 Simulation. And after the financial disaster that GPL was, no one would develop a product that is aimed solely at the incredibly small intersection of these target audiences. I am sure, if GP3 would've been "f1 '98 championship racing ", developed by a newcomer to the genre, it would've earned a lot of praise. cheers, Alex

I originally avoided this title because in the demo I could race efectively, but was a good 15 or 20 seconds off qualifying and always started in the back of the grid. I read several reviews that found the same issue on some tracks. Did this ever get fixed? In article <8sib66$7i7$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote:

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> FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > download it at: > > http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but

I > have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakesand > brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to > do some testing with the patch installed. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Andre, Braking seems better in F1WGP now after the patch -- give it a try and let me know what you think! -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:44:04 GMT, "Sal V." <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >For some odd reason, I had alot of fun playing this last night?!?After

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> >patch that is. > > >Sal V. > > That's not odd. F1WGP, as unrealistic as it may be, is a very fun game > to play. And the in-helmet game, with its auto-apex look still amazes > me. Should be a standard camview in every new racing game. > > Last weekend I downloaded the 6.5.30 patch for RC2000, which solves a > lot of the steering problems. Together with the RalWiz utility, it > brought a great boost to RC2000's gameplay and again I'm having a very > good time playing it. I hope the F1WGP fixes some of the most annoying > bugs too to make it as it should have been when it appeared on the > shelves (has the braking problem been fixes now?) > > Andre > >

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

In article <zFbH5.1301$[email hidden]>, "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> wrote: > You must have missed the posts about F1WGP a few months back. Iposted a > few amongst others. (Oh well, you were probably ranting about F12K,ya' > missed all the F1WGP ones) > > -Cheers! ". . . probably ranting about F12K . . ." LOL! You're probably right -- I've been an advocate of F1WGP as well for a while, though, so I wonder how I missed your posts? Have to do a search and re-open some threads! <G> ;-) -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I'm not sure how much the patch helps in the control department, but it does seem to make a difference -- not revolutionary, but better, as I'm now experiencing less of the sudden, drastic brake lock-ups. In playing around with the game tonight, though, I was surprised to find just how different the various cars and teams are modelled. I typically drive Mika's Mercedes in F1WGP, but I've been driving Schumi's Ferrari in F12K of late, so I decided to switch to the Ferrari in F1WGP just so the colors would look "right" (yes, I'm a sim racing nutcase, but so are YOU if you're reading this! <G>). I was shocked to find out how differently the Ferrari handled in F1WGP -- it fit my driving style MUCH better, in fact, and that, combined with the changes from the patch, really helped make F1WGP more enjoyable than I had realized it could be. Which just makes me wonder even more why everybody's so smitten with GP3. F12K is a great sim, F1WGP is a great entry-level F1 racer (not a sim, and better than a NFS3-type arcade racer), whereas GP3 is, well, not all that much more than a rehash of GP2. Like I said, it baffles me. Anyway, all that aside, if you do have F1WGP, grab the patch, slip into the Ferrari, and see for yourself. If you don't have F1WGP, I saw it for $9 (yes, not $19 but $9) at EB, and even at $19, it's a worthwhile distraction if you're an F1 fan. Hopefully the sequel will have the Indy track . . . -- JB In article <8sib66$7i7$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote:

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> FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > download it at: > > http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but

I > have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakesand > brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to > do some testing with the patch installed. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

You must have missed the posts about F1WGP a few months back. I posted a few amongst others. (Oh well, you were probably ranting about F12K, ya' missed all the F1WGP ones) -Cheers! <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8sj4mb$t0f$[email hidden]...

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> I'm not sure how much the patch helps in the control department, but it > does seem to make a difference -- not revolutionary, but better, as I'm > now experiencing less of the sudden, drastic brake lock-ups. > > In playing around with the game tonight, though, I was surprised to > find just how different the various cars and teams are modelled. I > typically drive Mika's Mercedes in F1WGP, but I've been driving > Schumi's Ferrari in F12K of late, so I decided to switch to the Ferrari > in F1WGP just so the colors would look "right" (yes, I'm a sim racing > nutcase, but so are YOU if you're reading this! <G>). I was shocked to > find out how differently the Ferrari handled in F1WGP -- it fit my > driving style MUCH better, in fact, and that, combined with the changes > from the patch, really helped make F1WGP more enjoyable than I had > realized it could be. > > Which just makes me wonder even more why everybody's so smitten with > GP3. F12K is a great sim, F1WGP is a great entry-level F1 racer (not a > sim, and better than a NFS3-type arcade racer), whereas GP3 is, well, > not all that much more than a rehash of GP2. Like I said, it baffles > me. > > Anyway, all that aside, if you do have F1WGP, grab the patch, slip into > the Ferrari, and see for yourself. If you don't have F1WGP, I saw it > for $9 (yes, not $19 but $9) at EB, and even at $19, it's a worthwhile > distraction if you're an F1 fan. Hopefully the sequel will have the > Indy track . . . > > -- JB > > In article <8sib66$7i7$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] wrote: > > FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > > download it at: > > > > http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > > > Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > > > http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > > > It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > > > The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but > I > > have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakes > and > > brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to > > do some testing with the patch installed. > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

For some odd reason, I had alot of fun playing this last night?!? After patch that is. Sal V. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8sib66$7i7$[email hidden]...

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> FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > download it at: > > http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but I > have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakes and > brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to > do some testing with the patch installed. > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:44:04 GMT, "Sal V." <[email hidden]> wrote: >For some odd reason, I had alot of fun playing this last night?!? After >patch that is. >Sal V. That's not odd. F1WGP, as unrealistic as it may be, is a very fun game to play. And the in-helmet game, with its auto-apex look still amazes me. Should be a standard camview in every new racing game. Last weekend I downloaded the 6.5.30 patch for RC2000, which solves a lot of the steering problems. Together with the RalWiz utility, it brought a great boost to RC2000's gameplay and again I'm having a very good time playing it. I hope the F1WGP fixes some of the most annoying bugs too to make it as it should have been when it appeared on the shelves (has the braking problem been fixes now?) Andre

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:53:18 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:44:04 GMT, "Sal V." <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>For some odd reason, I had alot of fun playing this last night?!? After >>patch that is. > >>Sal V. > >That's not odd. F1WGP, as unrealistic as it may be, is a very fun game >to play. And the in-helmet game, with its auto-apex look still amazes

replace 'in-helmet game' with 'in-helmet camera' please :) Andre

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>me. Should be a standard camview in every new racing game. > >Last weekend I downloaded the 6.5.30 patch for RC2000, which solves a >lot of the steering problems. Together with the RalWiz utility, it >brought a great boost to RC2000's gameplay and again I'm having a very >good time playing it. I hope the F1WGP fixes some of the most annoying >bugs too to make it as it should have been when it appeared on the >shelves (has the braking problem been fixes now?) > >Andre >

Most of my specific posts about F1WGP was that I liked how the REAR wing was modeled in the 3 modes (High, medium, low, downforce settings) -Cheers <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8skgdm$vf9$[email hidden]...

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> In article <zFbH5.1301$[email hidden]>, > "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > You must have missed the posts about F1WGP a few months back. I > posted a > > few amongst others. (Oh well, you were probably ranting about F12K, > ya' > > missed all the F1WGP ones) > > > > -Cheers! > > ". . . probably ranting about F12K . . ." > > LOL! You're probably right -- I've been an advocate of F1WGP as well > for a while, though, so I wonder how I missed your posts? Have to do a > search and re-open some threads! <G> > > ;-) > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

I was one of the beta-tester since one month now and some stuffs were changed, in the good way, but my main complain, the weird braking, seems not to be fixed until now. I will ask the Lankhor guy for more informations about the history of the patch. I received the beta 1, 2 and 3. Maybe a beta 4 is on the way. But i always return to GPL.........4ever. Erwan <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message : 8sib66$7i7$[email hidden]...

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> FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > download it at: > > http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but I > have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakes and > brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to > do some testing with the patch installed. > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

VERY well-said! -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: > "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote : > > > developed more for the Formula One fan that happens to own acomputer than for the "serious" PC Gamer that happens to play an F1 Simulation. > > There, in the immortal words of Bob Varsha, "you've hit the nail onthe > nose". That is exactly the dichotomy in the sim racing community, and > it's a parallel of the situation that arose (and still exists) in the > slot-racing community (Yes, Virginia, there *is* a slot-racing > community...), between "scale" racers and "thingie" racers: scaleracers > (like your "Formula One fan that happens to own a computer") strive to > create a world in miniature (sclae cars, landscaped track, etc.) that > reflects, however imperfectly, the real world of racing. "Thingie" > racers (a "thingie" is a slot car that is completely out-of-scale,made > solely for speed with no regard to appearance, and is most often raced > on a bare commercial track) run strictly for the competition. > > In a perfect "virtual" world, sims would provide absolutely life-like > physics and an absolutely movie-quality environment. We're not thereyet > ... if indeed we ever will be. It remains that some sims provide amore > immersive and "willing suspension of disbelief"-inducing environment, > while others provide better competition AS COMPETITIONS. I don'tbelieve > one is, ipso facto, better than another -- they're just different. I > *do* believe that personal preference for one type of gamingexperience > over another is a basis for a LOT of these "GP3 sux" "NO, F12K sux"non-arguments. > > Just a thought... > > BB > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Fantastic Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8skksv$7g9$02$[email hidden]...

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> > Which just makes me wonder even more why everybody's so smitten with > > GP3. F12K is a great sim, F1WGP is a great entry-level F1 racer (not a > > sim, and better than a NFS3-type arcade racer), whereas GP3 is, well, > > not all that much more than a rehash of GP2. Like I said, it baffles > > me. > > while I agree that F1WGP is a very good game on its own (if you read

through > the archives you'll find a post where I recommend it very much), GP2 isIMO > still a much better racing simulation than both F12K and F1WGP. F1WGP, > especially with the new patch, is a real fun arcade racer for everyones > instant enjoyment. F1-2000 was an experiment on just how unfinished and > unoptimized a piece of software can be and still sell well - that said, > F1-2001 (or however it will be called) might turn out to be a big surprise > if ISI can get it together for the 2nd try. But in their current state,none > of these games plays in the same league as GP3 which is a evolution andnot > a rehash of GP2, in fact it's quite different from GP2, apparentlydifferent > enough for some people that were GP2 fans 4 years ago to dislike it. > GP3 has a very distinct driving model that feels closer to real > contemporary open-wheel racing than any other sim I've tried (including > GPL). It features dynamic weather that even the "we'll give youeverything" > West Brothers themselves admit they'll have a hard time coming close tothat > level of realism and immersion. It shows you graphics that are maybe not > using the most recent graphics card technology, but are unparalleled for > providing lifelike, realistic pictures. I've show both GP3 and F1-2000 to > people who know nothing about computers at all at trade shows and racing > events. They pretty much all prefered the look and feel of GP3 overF1-2000, > so what baffles me is how negative GP3 is received by the "hardcore" pc > gamer crowd and / or the GPL community. I guess it all comes down to high > expectations and personal disappointment about the fact that GP3 seems tobe > developed more for the Formula One fan that happens to own a computer than > for the "serious" PC Gamer that happens to play an F1 Simulation. Andafter > the financial disaster that GPL was, no one would develop a product thatis > aimed solely at the incredibly small intersection of these targetaudiences. > I am sure, if GP3 would've been "f1 '98 championship racing ", developedby > a newcomer to the genre, it would've earned a lot of praise. > > cheers, > Alex > >

"Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote : > developed more for the Formula One fan that happens to own a computer than for the "serious" PC Gamer that happens to play an F1 Simulation. There, in the immortal words of Bob Varsha, "you've hit the nail on the nose". That is exactly the dichotomy in the sim racing community, and it's a parallel of the situation that arose (and still exists) in the slot-racing community (Yes, Virginia, there *is* a slot-racing community...), between "scale" racers and "thingie" racers: scale racers (like your "Formula One fan that happens to own a computer") strive to create a world in miniature (sclae cars, landscaped track, etc.) that reflects, however imperfectly, the real world of racing. "Thingie" racers (a "thingie" is a slot car that is completely out-of-scale, made solely for speed with no regard to appearance, and is most often raced on a bare commercial track) run strictly for the competition. In a perfect "virtual" world, sims would provide absolutely life-like physics and an absolutely movie-quality environment. We're not there yet ... if indeed we ever will be. It remains that some sims provide a more immersive and "willing suspension of disbelief"-inducing environment, while others provide better competition AS COMPETITIONS. I don't believe one is, ipso facto, better than another -- they're just different. I *do* believe that personal preference for one type of gaming experience over another is a basis for a LOT of these "GP3 sux" "NO, F12K sux" non-arguments. Just a thought... BB

JB, does this mean no more GP3 put downs by you then? <grin> -Cheers!! <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8sncao$b3o$[email hidden]...

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> VERY well-said! > > -- JB > > In article <[email hidden]>, > Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: > > "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote : > > > > > developed more for the Formula One fan that happens to own a > computer than for the "serious" PC Gamer that happens to play an F1 > Simulation. > > > > There, in the immortal words of Bob Varsha, "you've hit the nail on > the > > nose". That is exactly the dichotomy in the sim racing community, and > > it's a parallel of the situation that arose (and still exists) in the > > slot-racing community (Yes, Virginia, there *is* a slot-racing > > community...), between "scale" racers and "thingie" racers: scale > racers > > (like your "Formula One fan that happens to own a computer") strive to > > create a world in miniature (sclae cars, landscaped track, etc.) that > > reflects, however imperfectly, the real world of racing. "Thingie" > > racers (a "thingie" is a slot car that is completely out-of-scale, > made > > solely for speed with no regard to appearance, and is most often raced > > on a bare commercial track) run strictly for the competition. > > > > In a perfect "virtual" world, sims would provide absolutely life-like > > physics and an absolutely movie-quality environment. We're not there > yet > > ... if indeed we ever will be. It remains that some sims provide a > more > > immersive and "willing suspension of disbelief"-inducing environment, > > while others provide better competition AS COMPETITIONS. I don't > believe > > one is, ipso facto, better than another -- they're just different. I > > *do* believe that personal preference for one type of gaming > experience > > over another is a basis for a LOT of these "GP3 sux" "NO, F12K sux" > non-arguments. > > > > Just a thought... > > > > BB > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

If you liked F1WGP,you will like next Lankhor's game Warm up!

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:36:59 GMT, [email hidden] (Mojo) wrote: >If you liked F1WGP,you will like next Lankhor's game Warm up! Any URL with screenshots or previews? Andre

www.lankhor.com www.microids.com

Thanks for pointing this out, Maxx -- the Beta 5 patch does seem to address the controller issues, as well as the physics, it seems. After downloading the Beta 5 patch, things are really starting to feel better with F1WGP. This bodes well for Lankhor's upcoming "Warm Up" title! -- JB In article <[email hidden]>, Maxx <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> > Just noticed that BETA 5 of the patch has been released by Lankhor, > get it here : http://www.lankhor.com/zip/patchs/f1wgp101beta5.zip > > Maxx > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:01:15 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > >FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can > >download it at: > > > >http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > > > >Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > > > >http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > > > >It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > > > >The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity,

but I > >have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakesand > >brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chanceto

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Just noticed that BETA 5 of the patch has been released by Lankhor, get it here : http://www.lankhor.com/zip/patchs/f1wgp101beta5.zip Maxx On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:01:15 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>FYI, Lankhor has released a patch for their F1WGP game -- you can >download it at: > >http://www.lankhor.com/english/defaut.html > >Go under the "News" link, or go here directly for the patch: > >http://www.lankhor.com/commons/news_general.html > >It's a VERY small patch -- only about 536k. > >The readme doesn't mention anything about controller sensitivity, but I >have heard that this patch is supposed to address the touchy brakes and >brake lockup problems. I'll let you know more when I have a chance to >do some testing with the patch installed. > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.