Re: OT: GPL; Stewart's 1967 BRM for sale.

Hello Michael R Sisson <[email hidden]>! Sat, 21 Oct 2000 16:13:20 GMT you wrote: >Okely, let's (R.A.S.) buy the sucker and finally put to rest the 'does >GPL correctly simulate grip levels and slip angles and too much ass-end >waggle' argument. ;) Just remember that then you don't have shift-r.... :-) -- Tuomas Paasiala | Remove _NO-SPAM_ Helsinki FINLAND | for reply

It really pains me that some rich kid who know nothing bout cars will end up buying it! I think papy should buy it! then perhaps donate it to ras! -- Kieran www.pcracing.co.uk for GP3 and WSC Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > >

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> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- >

WOW! I know which site I'm visiting after I win California's 80 Million $$ lottery tonight! There's a 275 GTB/4 Berlinetta with my name on it...<g> -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

Thanks for the link Bruce. Noticed that the car ride height looked more suitable for the local motocross track when compared to the typical GPL ride height :) Also found myself wondering if the GPL version of the BRM is JYS's "the lightweight" ( as per the blurb at the sales site) or did we get the factory mule car. The H16 engine is one hugh great brick too; GPL doesn't do its size justice! David "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]...

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> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > >

Hi Bruce, Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! --David "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]...

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> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > >

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> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- >

Okely, let's (R.A.S.) buy the sucker and finally put to rest the 'does GPL correctly simulate grip levels and slip angles and too much ass-end waggle' argument. ;) Oh, and let's (R.A.S.) strap Mr. Huttu into the thing and see if he has the balls to do one of his 'hotlaps' in it. ;) (at Mosport, the track that is least changed out of the bunch. (?)) MRSisson

Judging from the side-view, it looks like the driver can always keep his hands under that bizzarre mirror-sheath-thingy. But it did have me scratching my head for a while. "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Bruce, > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > --David > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > >

Did they use full helmets already in those days? I wouldn't wanna crash my head onto that thing! Aubrey <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws OhjI5.10123$[email hidden]...

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> Judging from the side-view, it looks like the driver can always keep his > hands under that bizzarre mirror-sheath-thingy. But it did have me > scratching my head for a while. > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]... > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange > > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > > > --David > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think Stewart used seatbelts...but I'm not sure. They certainly didn't use full helmets. -- Mika Takala [email hidden] ICQ UIN 14314015 "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� news:XslI5.53647$[email hidden]... > Did they use full helmets already in those days? > I wouldn't wanna crash my head onto that thing! > > Aubrey <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > OhjI5.10123$[email hidden]... > > Judging from the side-view, it looks like the driver can always keep his > > hands under that bizzarre mirror-sheath-thingy. But it did have me > > scratching my head for a while. > > > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange > > > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > > > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Good idea! Everyone send me . . . say . . . USD5000 and I'll see what I can do! --David "Michael R Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.145b8a95b84d99bf989680@news...

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> In article <39f17ef1$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Okely, let's (R.A.S.) buy the sucker and finally put to rest the 'does > GPL correctly simulate grip levels and slip angles and too much ass-end > waggle' argument. ;) > > Oh, and let's (R.A.S.) strap Mr. Huttu into the thing and see if he has > the balls to do one of his 'hotlaps' in it. ;) (at Mosport, the track > that is least changed out of the bunch. (?)) > > MRSisson

"If I were a rich man - dada-dada-dada-ti-di-ti" Oh well... We can always dream. :-) Ed_ Bruce Kennewell wrote: > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ >

> >Okely, let's (R.A.S.) buy the sucker and finally put to rest the 'does > >GPL correctly simulate grip levels and slip angles and too much ass-end > >waggle' argument. ;) > Great idea - I have some garage space...

Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. http://www.gregorfisken.com/ -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. ---------------------------

Does anyone have an idea of what the Stewart car would go for? Even a ballpark figure? On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:30:47 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <igplc@[ S P A M G U A R D)online.no> wrote:

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>"If I were a rich man - dada-dada-dada-ti-di-ti" > >Oh well... We can always dream. :-) > >Ed_ > > >Bruce Kennewell wrote: >> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. >> >> http://www.gregorfisken.com/ >> > > >

Perhaps the lightweight version was that in name only, David. :-) That's a nice profile of the car, isn't it? Certainly shows up the unladen ride-height to great effect. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- David Erb <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pIfI5.152795$[email hidden]... > Thanks for the link Bruce. Noticed that the car ride height looked more > suitable for the local motocross track when compared to the typical GPL ride > height :) Also found myself wondering if the GPL version of the BRM is JYS's > "the lightweight" ( as per the blurb at the sales site) or did we get the > factory mule car. The H16 engine is one hugh great brick too; GPL doesn't do > its size justice! > > David > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > >

This period of F1 was, as far as my idea of aesthetics were concerned, one of the ugliest of the lot. Possibly only equalled by he advent of the high-nose. That BRM is total URK! in my eyes. I'll take the one above it or the Maerati 250F further down the list....the same car, incidentally, which Stan Jones (Alan Jones' dad) drove here......... http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59a.jpg Australian GP of 1959. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- David Karr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]... > Hi Bruce, > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > --David > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > >

"Some rich KID?!!" Extremely unlikely. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Kieran Larkin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8ssn2k$kub$[email hidden]... > It really pains me that some rich kid who know nothing bout cars will end up > buying it! > I think papy should buy it! then perhaps donate it to ras! > > -- > Kieran > www.pcracing.co.uk for GP3 and WSC > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > >

Yes, full helmets were in use by 1970...not by all but they were certainly being used. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Tim Vanhee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XslI5.53647$[email hidden]... > Did they use full helmets already in those days? > I wouldn't wanna crash my head onto that thing! > > Aubrey <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > OhjI5.10123$[email hidden]... > > Judging from the side-view, it looks like the driver can always keep his > > hands under that bizzarre mirror-sheath-thingy. But it did have me > > scratching my head for a while. > > > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]... > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly strange > > > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > > > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think that he's referring to the 1972 BRM, Mika, not the ex-Stewart unit. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Mika Takala <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:w7mI5.124$[email hidden]... > I think Stewart used seatbelts...but I'm not sure. They certainly didn't use > full helmets. > > -- > Mika Takala > [email hidden] > ICQ UIN 14314015 > "Tim Vanhee" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� > news:XslI5.53647$[email hidden]... > > Did they use full helmets already in those days? > > I wouldn't wanna crash my head onto that thing! > > > > Aubrey <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws > > OhjI5.10123$[email hidden]... > > > Judging from the side-view, it looks like the driver can always keep his > > > hands under that bizzarre mirror-sheath-thingy. But it did have me > > > scratching my head for a while. > > > > > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:8ssdfg$ofv$[email hidden]... > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > Is is just me or does that 1972 B.R.M. P180 have a realllllllly > strange > > > > cockpit layout. Seems like you'd have to do some pretty quick > > > > hand-over-hand to swing that around Monaco! > > > > > > > > --David > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:39f17ef1$[email hidden]... > > > > > Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Probably something at least in the hundreds of thousands would be my guess...especially something in such fantastic condition. nixx wrote:

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> > Does anyone have an idea of what the Stewart car would go for? Even a > ballpark figure? > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:30:47 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <igplc@[ S P A M G U > A R D)online.no> wrote: > > >"If I were a rich man - dada-dada-dada-ti-di-ti" > > > >Oh well... We can always dream. :-) > > > >Ed_ > > > > > >Bruce Kennewell wrote: > >> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > >> > >> http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > >> > > > > > >

Well I'll volunteer to test drive it first....many of you can attest to my abilities................................................................... ................................................... dave henrie "Thomas JS Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Probably something at least in the hundreds of thousands would be my > guess...especially something in such fantastic condition. > > nixx wrote: > > > > Does anyone have an idea of what the Stewart car would go for? Even a > > ballpark figure? > > > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:30:47 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <igplc@[ S P A M G U > > A R D)online.no> wrote: > > > > >"If I were a rich man - dada-dada-dada-ti-di-ti" > > > > > >Oh well... We can always dream. :-) > > > > > >Ed_ > > > > > > > > >Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > >> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > >> > > >> http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > >> > > > > > > > > >

From some other prices recently it would have to be in the US$250,000 area. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- nixx <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f2c493.1358382@news-server... > Does anyone have an idea of what the Stewart car would go for? Even a > ballpark figure? > > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:30:47 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <igplc@[ S P A M G U > A R D)online.no> wrote: > > >"If I were a rich man - dada-dada-dada-ti-di-ti" > > > >Oh well... We can always dream. :-) > > > >Ed_ > > > > > >Bruce Kennewell wrote: > >> Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > >> > >> http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > >> > > > > > > >

In article <39f17ef1$[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: >Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > >http://www.gregorfisken.com/ Wonderful, but they forgot to mention the price! -- Robert Virding Tel: +46 (0)8 545 55 017 Alteon Web Systems Email: [email hidden] S:t Eriksgatan 44 WWW: http://www.bluetail.com/~rv SE-112 34 Stockholm, SWEDEN "Folk s�ger att jag inte bryr mig om n�gonting, men det skiter jag i".

It's one of those "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" things. Senna's 1984 Toleman has been up for auction about a half-dozen times in the last two years, but always withdrawn because it doesn't make the reserve bid, which is well over a million. -- Stephen Robert Virding <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f4064f$[email hidden]... > In article <39f17ef1$[email hidden]>, > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > >http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > Wonderful, but they forgot to mention the price! > > -- > Robert Virding Tel: +46 (0)8 545 55 017 > Alteon Web Systems Email: [email hidden] > S:t Eriksgatan 44 WWW: http://www.bluetail.com/~rv > SE-112 34 Stockholm, SWEDEN > "Folk s�ger att jag inte bryr mig om n�gonting, men det skiter jag i".

Robert Virding <[email hidden]> wrote ... > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > >http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > Wonderful, but they forgot to mention the price!I've always thought it terribly vulgar to quibble over money when discussing a work of art. :-P Tony Whitley GPLRank +12.8 > -- > Robert Virding Tel: +46 (0)8 545 55 017 > Alteon Web Systems Email: [email hidden] > S:t Eriksgatan 44 WWW: http://www.bluetail.com/~rv > SE-112 34 Stockholm, SWEDEN > "Folk s�ger att jag inte bryr mig om n�gonting, men det skiter jag i"."Is fearr Gaeilge bhriste, n� B�arla cliste." So there.

The reserve is based on the Senna connection (obviously!) because a similar Toleman of the same era sold for WAY less than that amount! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stephen Ferguson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f4127d$[email hidden]... > It's one of those "if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it" > things. > > Senna's 1984 Toleman has been up for auction about a half-dozen times in the > last two years, but always withdrawn because it doesn't make the reserve > bid, which is well over a million. > > -- > Stephen > > Robert Virding <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f4064f$[email hidden]... > > In article <39f17ef1$[email hidden]>, > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > > > >http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > > > Wonderful, but they forgot to mention the price! > > > > -- > > Robert Virding Tel: +46 (0)8 545 55 017 > > Alteon Web Systems Email: [email hidden] > > S:t Eriksgatan 44 WWW: http://www.bluetail.com/~rv > > SE-112 34 Stockholm, SWEDEN > > "Folk s�ger att jag inte bryr mig om n�gonting, men det skiter jag i". > >

If knowing the price beforehand is a requirement for purchase then you can't afford it. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Robert Virding <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f4064f$[email hidden]... > In article <39f17ef1$[email hidden]>, > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Go here, then to "Cars for Sale and it's the 7th. down the list. > > > >http://www.gregorfisken.com/ > > Wonderful, but they forgot to mention the price! > > -- > Robert Virding Tel: +46 (0)8 545 55 017 > Alteon Web Systems Email: [email hidden] > S:t Eriksgatan 44 WWW: http://www.bluetail.com/~rv > SE-112 34 Stockholm, SWEDEN > "Folk s�ger att jag inte bryr mig om n�gonting, men det skiter jag i".