Re: Recommendations for Force Feedback Wheels?

Is the yellow grip Formula GP (current) also a force feedback wheel? Now I'm confused. I thought only the red one was FFB, and also a poor cousin to the previous Wingman FFB wheel. -- Stephen Classified <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:54 GMT, [email hidden] thus > spoke: > > > >one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech > >force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the > >original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) > > There are two versions of the GP wheel. The yellow grip one uses a > electro magnet for FFB effects and the red grip wheel uses a > mechanical system. > > -- > xyz

I'm a newbie gamer who just bought GP3 and now I want to buy a good force feedback wheel. The two wheels I hear most often about are the Logitech WingMan Formula Force and the Act Labs Force RS. Does anyone have any comparative info about them or any other wheels you might suggest? Regards, Mark

you can get a logitech FF wheel at www.justdeals.com for like 46.00 right now.. Mark Webb wrote:

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> > I'm a newbie gamer who just bought GP3 and now I want to buy a good force > feedback wheel. The two wheels I hear most often about are the Logitech > WingMan Formula Force and the Act Labs Force RS. > > Does anyone have any comparative info about them or any other wheels you > might suggest? > > Regards, > Mark

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:45:21 -0500, Robert Jordan <[email hidden]> wrote: >you can get a logitech FF wheel at www.justdeals.com for like 46.00 >right now.. > > one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) - brian

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>Mark Webb wrote: >> >> I'm a newbie gamer who just bought GP3 and now I want to buy a good force >> feedback wheel. The two wheels I hear most often about are the Logitech >> WingMan Formula Force and the Act Labs Force RS. >> >> Does anyone have any comparative info about them or any other wheels you >> might suggest? >> >> Regards, >> Mark

the act labs is just fantastic, there is a post about theiir support further down... "Mark Webb" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: 1o5J5.12092$[email hidden]...

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> I'm a newbie gamer who just bought GP3 and now I want to buy a good force > feedback wheel. The two wheels I hear most often about are the Logitech > WingMan Formula Force and the Act Labs Force RS. > > Does anyone have any comparative info about them or any other wheels you > might suggest? > > Regards, > Mark > > >

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:54 GMT, [email hidden] thus spoke: >one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech >force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the >original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) There are two versions of the GP wheel. The yellow grip one uses a electro magnet for FFB effects and the red grip wheel uses a mechanical system. -- xyz

I have a Guillemot Ferrari FFB wheel and it is absolutely great as well as not very expensive. Milan "Mark Webb" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:1o5J5.12092$[email hidden]...

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> I'm a newbie gamer who just bought GP3 and now I want to buy a good force > feedback wheel. The two wheels I hear most often about are the Logitech > WingMan Formula Force and the Act Labs Force RS. > > Does anyone have any comparative info about them or any other wheels you > might suggest? > > Regards, > Mark > >

The previous (or still current in some stores?) FFB wheel had good reviews. This had a red covering on the entire wheel and nice shifting paddles behind the wheel. The newer wheel has a red covering only on the 9 and 3 positions, uses rectangular switches on the back of the spokes for shifting, and apparently uses a cheaper gear-driven FFB system. -- Stephen Mark Webb <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZUpJ5.16203$[email hidden]... > As you said (from the Logitech web), the red wheel is FFB and officially > called the Logitech WingMan� FormulaT Force GP. The yellow wheel is the > "poor-cousin" non-FFB and called the Logitech WingMan� FormulaT GP. > > Was there a previous (and maybe better version) that others were referring > to, or are these two all there are? I don't want to buy one if it was some > previous wheel that got all the raves. > > Mark > > "Joe Marques" <Joe NO SPAM [email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ACpJ5.82606$[email hidden]... > > The red is FFB. The yellow is non-FFB. Check it out www.logitech.com > > > > > > -- > > Joe Marques > > > > Remove *NO SPAM* to reply > > "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:39f592b7$[email hidden]... > > > Is the yellow grip Formula GP (current) also a force feedback wheel? > Now > > > I'm confused. I thought only the red one was FFB, and also a poor > cousin > > to > > > the previous Wingman FFB wheel. > > > > > > -- > > > Stephen > > > > > > Classified <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:54 GMT, [email hidden] thus > > > > spoke: > > > > > > > > > > > > >one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech > > > > >force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the > > > > >original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) > > > > > > > > There are two versions of the GP wheel. The yellow grip one uses a > > > > electro magnet for FFB effects and the red grip wheel uses a > > > > mechanical system. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > xyz > > > > > > > > > > > >

The red is FFB. The yellow is non-FFB. Check it out www.logitech.com -- Joe Marques Remove *NO SPAM* to reply "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:39f592b7$[email hidden]... > Is the yellow grip Formula GP (current) also a force feedback wheel? Now > I'm confused. I thought only the red one was FFB, and also a poor cousin to > the previous Wingman FFB wheel. > > -- > Stephen > > Classified <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:54 GMT, [email hidden] thus > > spoke: > > > > > > >one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech > > >force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the > > >original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) > > > > There are two versions of the GP wheel. The yellow grip one uses a > > electro magnet for FFB effects and the red grip wheel uses a > > mechanical system. > > > > -- > > xyz > >

As you said (from the Logitech web), the red wheel is FFB and officially called the Logitech WingMan� FormulaT Force GP. The yellow wheel is the "poor-cousin" non-FFB and called the Logitech WingMan� FormulaT GP. Was there a previous (and maybe better version) that others were referring to, or are these two all there are? I don't want to buy one if it was some previous wheel that got all the raves. Mark "Joe Marques" <Joe NO SPAM [email hidden]> wrote in message news:ACpJ5.82606$[email hidden]...

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> The red is FFB. The yellow is non-FFB. Check it out www.logitech.com > > > -- > Joe Marques > > Remove *NO SPAM* to reply > "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:39f592b7$[email hidden]... > > Is the yellow grip Formula GP (current) also a force feedback wheel?

Now > > I'm confused. I thought only the red one was FFB, and also a poorcousin

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> to > > the previous Wingman FFB wheel. > > > > -- > > Stephen > > > > Classified <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:54 GMT, [email hidden] thus > > > spoke: > > > > > > > > > >one thing. is it the logitech formula force wheel, or the logitech > > > >force GP... the formula GP is a cheap and nasty version of the > > > >original & best logitech formula force wheel (with the red wheel) > > > > > > There are two versions of the GP wheel. The yellow grip one uses a > > > electro magnet for FFB effects and the red grip wheel uses a > > > mechanical system. > > > > > > -- > > > xyz > > > > > >

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:48:54 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Is the yellow grip Formula GP (current) also a force feedback wheel? Now >I'm confused. I thought only the red one was FFB, and also a poor cousin to >the previous Wingman FFB wheel. Hmm...maybe I'm confusd by the below url. They say the yellow wheel is also a Force Feedback wheel, but electromagnetic and not mechanical like the one below it. http://www.onvia.ca/canada/products/index.cfm?CategoryID=30461&SortBy=manufacturer -- xyz

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:43:48 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >The previous (or still current in some stores?) FFB wheel had good reviews. >This had a red covering on the entire wheel and nice shifting paddles behind >the wheel. The newer wheel has a red covering only on the 9 and 3 >positions, uses rectangular switches on the back of the spokes for shifting, >and apparently uses a cheaper gear-driven FFB system. Well, I have this FF GP wheel and the only real complaint I have is the clamping system. Yes, it uses cheaper parts than the previous LWFF wheel, but the FF effects are fine. In fact I have to turn the overall effects down because I find them too strong otherwise. Apart from the cheaper plastic and smaller size what are the other complaints people have with this wheel? This is my first FF wheel so have nothing to compare it to. But, I can still return it if it is indeed a bad wheel to use. Just looking for legitimate reasons. The use of plastic parts over metal doesn't count because this wheel still works well whether they are plastic or metal. I must have a USB wheel and not a gameport wheel like the previous LWFF was. -- xyz

No, the previous LWFF uses USB too; I am using one. "Classified" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:43:48 +0200, "Stephen Ferguson" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > >The previous (or still current in some stores?) FFB wheel had goodreviews. > >This had a red covering on the entire wheel and nice shifting paddlesbehind > >the wheel. The newer wheel has a red covering only on the 9 and 3 > >positions, uses rectangular switches on the back of the spokes forshifting,

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> >and apparently uses a cheaper gear-driven FFB system. > > Well, I have this FF GP wheel and the only real complaint I have is > the clamping system. Yes, it uses cheaper parts than the previous LWFF > wheel, but the FF effects are fine. In fact I have to turn the overall > effects down because I find them too strong otherwise. Apart from the > cheaper plastic and smaller size what are the other complaints people > have with this wheel? This is my first FF wheel so have nothing to > compare it to. But, I can still return it if it is indeed a bad wheel > to use. Just looking for legitimate reasons. The use of plastic parts > over metal doesn't count because this wheel still works well whether > they are plastic or metal. I must have a USB wheel and not a gameport > wheel like the previous LWFF was. > -- > xyz

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:00:50 GMT, "Milo" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >No, the previous LWFF uses USB too; I am using one. OK, thx. Maybe I will take this one back and try to find that one. The pedals on the GP version are better though. -- xyz

Yellow one: non FF Old red one (paddle shifter and entire red wheel): FF cable driven (Hmmmmmmm), USB and serial possible, new red one: FF gear driven (Brrrrrr), USB, cheap JensSchumi On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:38:31 GMT, [email hidden] (Classified) wrote: > >Hmm...maybe I'm confusd by the below url. They say the yellow wheel is >also a Force Feedback wheel, but electromagnetic and not mechanical >like the one below it. > >http://www.onvia.ca/canada/products/index.cfm?CategoryID=30461&SortBy=manufacturer --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:18:16 GMT, [email hidden] (JS) thus spoke:

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>Yellow one: >non FF > >Old red one (paddle shifter and entire red wheel): >FF cable driven (Hmmmmmmm), USB and serial possible, > >new red one: >FF gear driven (Brrrrrr), USB, cheap

I sent that new Logitech FF wheel back. My times immediatley improved in Hascar Heat going back to a plain old MS PP wheel. Go figure. The only game I really found the FF helped was GPL due to being able to feel when the car was losing traction. Some of the effects were just plain annoying and my arms got sore quick. No FF for me please. :=) -- eX