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Split axis pedals

10 posts by 10 people · 29 Oct 2000 03:35 UTC - 03 Nov 2000 10:02 UTC

GD 29 Oct 2000 03:35 UTC#224322
With the GP3 patch now out, there are a lot of people jumping up and down pleased that they can now run a 'split axis' pedal system with their wheel. Could someone describe the advantages of this system? Is it worth me ripping my pedals apart and installing an extra pot so that I can get dual axis as well? And most importantly... are your lap times quicker?
GraDee 29 Oct 2000 10:43 UTC↳ reply to GD#224192
GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > With the GP3 patch now out, there are a lot of people > jumping up and down pleased that they can now run a > 'split axis' pedal system with their wheel. > > Could someone describe the advantages of this system? > Is it worth me ripping my pedals apart and installing an > extra pot so that I can get dual axis as well? > > And most importantly... are your lap times quicker? >
To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly effects your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakes dragging (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hard way!) Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim like GP3 is put down purely due to not having this. It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless.
"9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tguvu$75o$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > With the GP3 patch now out, there are a lot of people > > jumping up and down pleased that they can now run a > > 'split axis' pedal system with their wheel. > > > > Could someone describe the advantages of this system? > > Is it worth me ripping my pedals apart and installing an > > extra pot so that I can get dual axis as well? > > > > And most importantly... are your lap times quicker? > > > > To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever
come > across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardlyeffects > your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakesdragging > (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hardway!) > Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal workindependently, if > you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot onthe > throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of theaccelerator. > It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a simlike GP3 > is put down purely due to not having this. > It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. Umm, you're joking right? Have you never used the brake in counjunction with the throttle to control the car around a corner. I know it doesn't apply to GP3, but what about trying to start on a slight incline. How do you hold the brake and rev the engine with a combined axis system? A small advantage is that you don't have to wait for the throttle pedal to spring back before you can get full braking power. Going back to my first point again, if you are braking into a corner and the rears start to lock, you press the throttle a little and it unlocks them. Using combined axis this would have the effect of releasing the brake slightly, which will make you take longer to stop as the fronts will not be receiving the full amount of braking you intended. Split axis is much more realistic, combined is just because they wanted them to act like a joystick, a botch job if you like. Scott
I think u are the biggest joke. In GPL u are much faster using split axis. Just like it real life racing u can use the brakes while u are still on the throttle. Also using some throttle while braking hard keeps the car more stable. U can try this in GPL Monza Parabolica corner: when u brake hard for this corner without using throttle, the car will be uncontrolable. Completely useless? I guess ur not really into sim-racing, so shut up please > > To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come > across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardlyeffects > your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakesdragging > (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hard way!) > Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if > you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the > throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. > It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim likeGP3 > is put down purely due to not having this. > It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. > >
HAHAHA!! 9Wright7 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tguvu$75o$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > With the GP3 patch now out, there are a lot of people > > jumping up and down pleased that they can now run a > > 'split axis' pedal system with their wheel. > > > > Could someone describe the advantages of this system? > > Is it worth me ripping my pedals apart and installing an > > extra pot so that I can get dual axis as well? > > > > And most importantly... are your lap times quicker? > > > > To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come > across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly
effects > your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakesdragging > (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hard way!) > Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if > you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the > throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. > It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim likeGP3 > is put down purely due to not having this. > It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. > >
Incubus 29 Oct 2000 17:15 UTC↳ reply to GraDee#224109
Wanker 9Wright7 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tguvu$75o$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > With the GP3 patch now out, there are a lot of people > > jumping up and down pleased that they can now run a > > 'split axis' pedal system with their wheel. > > > > Could someone describe the advantages of this system? > > Is it worth me ripping my pedals apart and installing an > > extra pot so that I can get dual axis as well? > > > > And most importantly... are your lap times quicker? > > > > To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come > across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly
effects > your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakesdragging > (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hard way!) > Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if > you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the > throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. > It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim likeGP3 > is put down purely due to not having this. > It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. > >
EldredP 29 Oct 2000 17:28 UTC↳ reply to GraDee#224114
In article <8tguvu$75o$[email hidden]>, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> writes: >Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if >you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the >throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. >It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim like GP3 >is put down purely due to not having this. >It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. You say it's not wanted, not needed, and an utter joke. Then why is it a feature that's nice to have? You're contradicting yourself... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.67 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
T.M.K. 29 Oct 2000 18:45 UTC↳ reply to GraDee#224139
Sorry, I have to disagree. Have you ever autocrossed or raced a real vehicle with an automatic transmission? The technique used is called "left foot braking." By independently working your brakes and acceleration you can keep your engine rpms higher into the power curve as you negotiate a turn. If you take into account the brake bias of a vehicle, you can lock the front wheels and apply power to the rear wheels and generate some interesting dynamics. Racing sims like GPL and GP3 use real life physics as close as possible. If you have your controllers setup to give you precise control, a split-axis setup can give you better track times. -- T.M.K. "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tguvu$75o$[email hidden]... > GD <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come > across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly effects > your driving style, if anything it can slow you down due to brakes dragging > (probably without you even touching the pedals as I found the hard way!) > Split axis means that the brake and throttle pedal work independently, if > you don't have split axis if means that say you have your foot on the > throttle, then brake and it cancels out the action of the accelerator. > It's not wanted, it's not needed, and its an utter joke that a sim like GP3 > is put down purely due to not having this. > It's a feature that's nice to have but completely useless. > >
JS 03 Nov 2000 05:24 UTC↳ reply to GraDee#223253
This is a troll, right? I case not: never disaggreed more with a post. I could not race GPL w/o split axis. Why? I almost each corner I steer with brake *and* throttle *at the same time*. IMO it's more important than the wheel input, which only sets the starting point of the cornering. JensSchumi On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:43:57 -0000, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote: >To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come >across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly effects<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61
Agreed....split axis is incredibly important "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)| This is a troll, right? | | I case not: | never disaggreed more with a post. | I could not race GPL w/o split axis. | Why? | I almost each corner I steer with brake *and* throttle *at the same time*. | IMO it's more important than the wheel input, which only sets the starting
point
Quoted text (8 lines)| of the cornering. | | JensSchumi | | On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:43:57 -0000, "9Wright7" <[email hidden]> wrote: | | >To put it simply split axis support is the biggest joke I've ever come | >across in any sort of gaming in my life. It does nothing, It hardly
effects | <snip> | --------------------------------------------- | LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: | http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ | | GPLRank: -2.61

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