I've been pleased with the realism of N3 and how it has been useful as
a true simulator for racing . . .
I want to know if anybody can help me splice the handling/dynamics of
CART Racing (a repackaged Papyrus ICR II, I believe) and put them on
the short tracks from the Papyrus NASCAR sims. I found that Hickory
and South Boston were the best simulations of the local short tracks.
Any help?
I want to do this because my daughter is getting started in Formula
Indy cars that are open wheelers with lots of wing and a 2-cycle
3-cylinder snowmobile engine.
They run as a featured event at different asphalt short tracks.By the
way, these Formula Indy cars will manage about 125 mph and actually
run faster lap times than the late models on the same tracks.
Thanks in advance
Diamondcutter
N3, DTR user
No. 32 Swiss Hutless/Yamaha 100 kart
No. 45 Howe/Chevrolet late model
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Complaints?
Can't hear you over these engines!
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Sounds like you need GPL and Dave Noonan's track converter. Seems to
me that this would accomplish what you want very nicely.
Info on Dave's converter can be found here:
http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/
Randy
On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:49:19 -0500, Diamondcutter
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>I've been pleased with the realism of N3 and how it has been useful as >a true simulator for racing . . . > >I want to know if anybody can help me splice the handling/dynamics of >CART Racing (a repackaged Papyrus ICR II, I believe) and put them on >the short tracks from the Papyrus NASCAR sims. I found that Hickory >and South Boston were the best simulations of the local short tracks. > >Any help? > >I want to do this because my daughter is getting started in Formula >Indy cars that are open wheelers with lots of wing and a 2-cycle >3-cylinder snowmobile engine. > >They run as a featured event at different asphalt short tracks.By the >way, these Formula Indy cars will manage about 125 mph and actually >run faster lap times than the late models on the same tracks. > >Thanks in advance > > >Diamondcutter > >N3, DTR user >No. 32 Swiss Hutless/Yamaha 100 kart >No. 45 Howe/Chevrolet late model >_____________________ >Complaints? >Can't hear you over these engines! >______________________>"Randy Riggs" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Sounds like you need GPL and Dave Noonan's track converter. Seems to
> me that this would accomplish what you want very nicely.
GPL cars have no downforce, what he wants is clearly a type of car with
heavy downforce on short tracks.
To help a little, David Noonan created also a N2->Icr2 converter. You can
force it to convert NR99 tracks (but not N3) also, so there is tons of short
tracks available for Icr2.
--
-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
Yes, you're right that he mentioned that he wanted to emulate
downforce cars.
I've never tried ICR2 or CART Racing... is the physics close enough
that the inclusion of downforce would make it a better choice than GPL
for practicing open wheel cars on a short oval? I assumed that even
with GPL's lack of downforce it would still do a better job at honing
one's skills than ICR2.
Which would you choose if you were him?
Randy
On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:38:58 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]>
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>>"Randy Riggs" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Sounds like you need GPL and Dave Noonan's track converter. Seems to >> me that this would accomplish what you want very nicely. > > >GPL cars have no downforce, what he wants is clearly a type of car with >heavy downforce on short tracks. > >To help a little, David Noonan created also a N2->Icr2 converter. You can >force it to convert NR99 tracks (but not N3) also, so there is tons of short >tracks available for Icr2. > > > > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >
"Randy Riggs" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I've never tried ICR2 or CART Racing... is the physics close enough
> that the inclusion of downforce would make it a better choice than GPL
> for practicing open wheel cars on a short oval?
Probably yes, actually. The racing model of Icr2 has aged quite well upon
today's standards. You of course need to take a small step out of reality,
considering it doesn't model gas/brake at the same time and doesn't have any
wheelspin but it still shines on low-banking oval tracks I say. Just the
fact that you can convert all those NR99 tracks (so many of them are short
ovals like Portland, Sobo, Hickory, Evergreen, etc...) is enough I would
say.
--
-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
thanks for the tip! I actually used Dave's track converter . . . at
least a limited, free version that would handle South Boston. It was
quick and easy to use. thanks for the info.
the qualities I was looking for in practicing are:
-Short track (<.5 and typically 3/8ths)
-Ability to tune handling with wing and tire pressures
-Lots of cars on the track. In this series (NAMRA) they can start
25-30 cars on a 3/8ths mile (600 m) track
-Open wheel. In this class, it's not "rubbin' is racin'" but "rubbin'
means airborne"
The lack of wheelspin doesn't bother me . . . with centrifugal clutch
and chain or belt drive, that's not a factor. You can see a picture
of the cars at http://www.namra.com/
Thanks for your help!
-the Diamondcutter
On 01 Nov 2000 22:15:56 GMT, [email hidden] (Randy Riggs)
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