Cart precision racing

Help.......i was lucky enough to win an online aauction for Microsoft cart precision racing, however the prog was from Germany and all of the game is German.....I cant understand a word of it! is there a patch out there to convert my copy of the sim or is there any German players who have an English version that they would like to swap?

"SEM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tvagk$ald$[email hidden]... > Help.......i was lucky enough to win an online aauction for Microsoft cartprecision racing, however the prog was from Germany and all of the game is German.....I cant understand a word of it! > is there a patch out there to convert my copy of the sim or is there anyGerman players who have an English version that they would like to swap? > > Lucky? That's what you think. CPR was the first game I payed full ticket for and ended up throwing in the trash to prevent me from EVER trying to install it again! Why didn't you just buy an American version for $10? That's all it's going for, and it's not worth that. Oh, you'll THINK it's ok for awhile, and then you'll realize you're just getting more and more frustrated with it because it's ALMOST right. It SHOULD be right. It's CLOSE to right. But it ain't. Kevin F. Gavitt

Wow Kev... I guess that one brought back some bad memories.<g> I agree though, what killed it for me was the FF, I thought it was ok with a normal wheel, but that I'd get more consistent using FF. Big mistake. Jan. =--- Kevin Gavitt wrote... > <snip> > Lucky? That's what you think....

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> > Oh, you'll THINK it's ok for awhile, and then you'll realize you're just > getting more and more frustrated with it because it's ALMOST right. It > SHOULD be right. It's CLOSE to right. > > > But it ain't. >

No, it ain't perfect, but it still has the best car set-up method of ANY driving sim !

>ive just installed the update patch from microsoft and it has changed some parts of it to English but youre right, it is poor Ill stick to GPL Is indycar II by papyrus any good? >

SEM wrote: > all of the game is German.....I cant understand a word of it! It's even worse in English.

"SEM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tvio9$v0b$[email hidden]... > > >ive just installed the update patch from microsoft and it has changedsome parts of it to English but youre right, it is poor > > Ill stick to GPL > > Is indycar II by papyrus any good? > > > I first bought CPR because it was newer and more up to date the ICRII. Why spend $40 bucks on last year's game when this year's game is out? Well, I bought ICRII about a year ago cheap, and it looks old. I mean you'll know it's old the minute it fires up. CPR looks MUCH better. Oh yeah. I'm still driving it ICRII. It's a hoot, and you can convert many of the tracks to GPL, so it's worth picking up just for that. Up to date car sets are available for it too. Looks like other people think it's still a hoot too. If you see it pick it up. It's good cheap fun. Kevin F. Gavitt

"SEM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8tvagk$ald$[email hidden]... > Help.......i was lucky enough to win an online aauction for Microsoft cartprecision racing, however the prog was from Germany and all of the game is German.....I cant understand a word of it! > is there a patch out there to convert my copy of the sim or is there anyGerman players who have an English version that they would like to swap? > > You'll be even more lucky if you don't ever install it-- Jerry Morelock

Oldy but goody > Is indycar II by papyrus any good? > > >

What is sad is that I think GP3 feels similar to CPR...yet people still play GP3. Sure CPR had crappy AI...but the rest of the game is pretty darn good. JB "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CBGM5.129107$[email hidden]... > > "SEM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8tvagk$ald$[email hidden]... > > Help.......i was lucky enough to win an online aauction for Microsoftcart

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> precision racing, however the prog was from Germany and all of the game is > German.....I cant understand a word of it! > > is there a patch out there to convert my copy of the sim or is there any > German players who have an English version that they would like to swap? > > > > > > Lucky? That's what you think. CPR was the first game I payed full ticket

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> and ended up throwing in the trash to prevent me from EVER trying to > install it again! > > Why didn't you just buy an American version for $10? That's all it's going > for, and it's not worth that. > > Oh, you'll THINK it's ok for awhile, and then you'll realize you're just > getting more and more frustrated with it because it's ALMOST right. It > SHOULD be right. It's CLOSE to right. > > > But it ain't. > > > Kevin F. Gavitt > >

"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uyJM5.4355$[email hidden]... > What is sad is that I think GP3 feels similar to CPR...yet people stillplay > GP3. Sure CPR had crappy AI...but the rest of the game is pretty darngood. > > JB There are bits of it that I've never seen matched. The pure quantity of data that it provided you with, particularly in the best laps catagory, is unsurpassed. AI, that would be aritificial idiots, right? I found it at least drivable on ovals, although I was always bothered by the car blatently turning on needle driven through its middle. I was NEVER able to even get it to function properly on road courses. Brakes in particular were always an on/off switch affair for me and nothing I could do would change that. Again, I did spend many hours driving it, but every hour saw me enjoy it less and less. Kevin F. Gavitt

Well I think the brakes feel kinda like in F1 2k. You can modulate the brakes, but they lock up far before full brakes. It is amazing how people hated brakes that locked up at that time in sim racing (no other game was doing it then) and now with GPL out, it is all ok. On road courses people normally got mad because of the bumps and spinning over them...but the default setups that came with it were pretty crappy at handling the bumps. I have gone back to the game and developed some very nice setups (anyone watch the Cart mid ohio race? They were having trouble over the humps and bumps too) that will handle the bumps, but still require throttle modulation to keep from spinning (once again, people didn't dream of throttle modulation like that until GPL came out...now that it is out, it is ok if you can get wheelspin in a game). I think the game was a little ahead of it's time in physics, but a little behind it's time in the track design (excessive bumps in some places, such as Elkhart's front straight). With the track editor that was released, the poor track design was pretty much fixed, but people had already written off the game by that time. JB "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ROJM5.130005$[email hidden]...

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> > "Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uyJM5.4355$[email hidden]... > > What is sad is that I think GP3 feels similar to CPR...yet people still > play > > GP3. Sure CPR had crappy AI...but the rest of the game is pretty darn > good. > > > > JB > > There are bits of it that I've never seen matched. The pure quantity of

data > that it provided you with, particularly in the best laps catagory, is > unsurpassed. > > AI, that would be aritificial idiots, right? > > I found it at least drivable on ovals, although I was always bothered bythe > car blatently turning on needle driven through its middle. > > I was NEVER able to even get it to function properly on road courses.Brakes > in particular were always an on/off switch affair for me and nothing Icould

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> do would change that. > > Again, I did spend many hours driving it, but every hour saw me enjoy it > less and less. > > Kevin F. Gavitt > >

"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote > It is amazing how people > hated brakes that locked up at that time in sim racing (no other game was > doing it then) and now with GPL out, it is all ok. One models it great, the other doesn't. It's not because it's a feature that it is correctly modeled. > (once again, people didn't dream of throttle > modulation like that until GPL came out...now that it is out, it is ok if > you can get wheelspin in a game). One models is great, the other doesn't (another time). Let's add to this the numbers of problems we had with support, C:PR is the Nascar Heat of a couple of years back <G> Promises, only that... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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> >"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:uyJM5.4355$[email hidden]... >> What is sad is that I think GP3 feels similar to CPR...yet people still >play >> GP3. Sure CPR had crappy AI...but the rest of the game is pretty darn >good. >> >> JB > >There are bits of it that I've never seen matched. The pure quantity of data >that it provided you with, particularly in the best laps catagory, is >unsurpassed. > >AI, that would be aritificial idiots, right? > >I found it at least drivable on ovals, although I was always bothered by the >car blatently turning on needle driven through its middle. > >I was NEVER able to even get it to function properly on road courses. >Brakes >in particular were always an on/off switch affair for me and nothing I could >do would change that. > >Again, I did spend many hours driving it, but every hour saw me enjoy it >less and less. >

Was it just me, but did anyone else think the pit boss at the head of the car during a pit stop would come mincing out like a right nancy pooftah. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

> Let's add to this the numbers of problems we had with support, C:PR is the > Nascar Heat of a couple of years back <G> Promises, only that... Uh, I see your point but I WISH CPR had the AI (flawed as it is) that NH has!! NH has flaws but it still makes for a pretty enjoyable single player game. The AI does some stupid things but also does some smart things. To be honest, I can't think of any racer that has great AI. I just raced Indycar II today and it has some moronic AI. CPR on the other hand had NO AI, even after the patch! They didn't even model FCY's at all!! With a few patches, that could've been a great game. My favorite part of the game to this day is the sound. I LOVED the sound of the rev limiter. If the MGI keep their word and continue to improve Nascar Heat, I think it will be a great game. One has to take into consideration all the features they DID include for a first game. Look at GP3, it's on its third go round and they live in a cocoon ignoring all the features the competition has added along the way. If anything, NH will make N4 a better game. Competition always does that. Michael M

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:48:21 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Free Agent probably can't handle the Base 64 encoding that others have >>mentioned. I'm using the registered version and I see his posts fine. > >I also run the registered version... Version 1.7 > >Andre When you originally posted you didn't... Second to last line shows you posted with Free Agent: NNTP-Posting-Host: s340-modem1889.dial.xs4all.nl X-Trace: news1.xs4all.nl 973506326 10267 194.109.167.97 (6 Nov 2000 10:25:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Nov 2000 10:25:26 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: rQdQ rec.autos.simulators:310244

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> On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k > >IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln > >aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh > >cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= > > > > How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this?

because that's what's there. very zen-ish. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!

I don't know, but Agent shows them like that here too. I thought maybe his message was just garbled in propagation. His messages are "clear" using Outlook Express though. Some other sending format/form of automatic encryption going on? Jan. =--- Andre Warringa wrote... > <snip> > > How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM > like this? > > Andre

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> On 06 Nov 2000 11:27:04 +0100, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k > >> >IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln > >> >aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh > >> >cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= > >> > > >> > >> How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? > > > >because that's what's there. very zen-ish. > > Very funny :) But other people reply to his posts, so there has to be > a way to decrypt this..

well, if you look at the headers in his posting, you'll find: # Content-Type: text/plain; # charset="iso-8859-1" # Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 idiocy at it's finest. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gnus don't kill people. gnus-summary-lower-score kills people.

Free Agent probably can't handle the Base 64 encoding that others have mentioned. I'm using the registered version and I see his posts fine. Tim On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:44:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k >>IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln >>aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh >>cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= >> > >How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? > >Andre

On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" <[email hidden]> wrote: >DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k >IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln >aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh >cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= > How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? Andre

On 06 Nov 2000 11:27:04 +0100, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k >> >IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln >> >aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh >> >cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= >> > >> >> How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? > >because that's what's there. very zen-ish.

Very funny :) But other people reply to his posts, so there has to be a way to decrypt this.. Andre >-- >Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > FJ�SE!

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > On 06 Nov 2000 11:27:04 +0100, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k > >> >IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln > >> >aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh > >> >cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= > >> > > >> > >> How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? > > > >because that's what's there. very zen-ish. > > Very funny :) But other people reply to his posts, so there has to be > a way to decrypt this.. > > Andre

Reads just fine with Netscape. However, a scan of his header reveals base64 encoding. Don't know Agent or how to get around this with it, but that's your problem. -- Chuck Kandler A man is no less a Slave just because he is allowed to choose a new Master every four years. Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> > I don't know, but Agent shows them like that here too. I thought maybe his > message was just garbled in propagation. > > His messages are "clear" using Outlook Express though. Some other sending > format/form of automatic encryption going on? > > Jan.

See post above, or better yet, read his header. ;-) Base64 Encoding. Cheers, -- Chuck Kandler A man is no less a Slave just because he is allowed to choose a new Master every four years. Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 09:03:34 -0500, Tim O. <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Free Agent probably can't handle the Base 64 encoding that others have >mentioned. I'm using the registered version and I see his posts fine. I also run the registered version... Version 1.7 Andre

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>Tim > >On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:44:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) >wrote: > >>On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:49:35 -0000, "SEM" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>DQo+aXZlIGp1c3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIHRoZSB1cGRhdGUgcGF0Y2ggZnJvbSBtaWNyb3NvZnQgYW5k >>>IGl0IGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIHNvbWUgcGFydHMgb2YgaXQgdG8gRW5nbGlzaCBidXQgeW91cmUgcmln >>>aHQsIGl0IGlzIHBvb3INCg0KSWxsIHN0aWNrIHRvIEdQTA0KDQpJcyBpbmR5Y2FyIElJIGJ5IHBh >>>cHlydXMgIGFueSBnb29kPyANCj4gDQo= >>> >> >>How come my newsreader (Agent) shows messages from SEM like this? >> >>Andre

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:03:16 -0500, Tim O. <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:48:21 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>>Free Agent probably can't handle the Base 64 encoding that others have >>>mentioned. I'm using the registered version and I see his posts fine. >> >>I also run the registered version... Version 1.7 >> >>Andre > >When you originally posted you didn't... Second to last line shows you >posted with Free Agent:

Stupid me... at home I've got the registered version, at work I use Free Agent indeed :)) Andre

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>NNTP-Posting-Host: s340-modem1889.dial.xs4all.nl >X-Trace: news1.xs4all.nl 973506326 10267 194.109.167.97 (6 Nov 2000 >10:25:26 GMT) >X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] >NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Nov 2000 10:25:26 GMT >X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 >Xref: rQdQ rec.autos.simulators:310244 >