What's better for GPL? TNT2 Ultra or Voodoo3 2000?

Hi fellow racers, GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu is a celery 400@450. Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

My money would be on the V3. "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Hi fellow racers, > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > is a celery 400@450. > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > > Uwe

Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? Uwe I would definitely use the V3 2000 . It is directly supported by GPL without patching. The only way to get GPL to work properly with the TNT is to use the D3D patch which isn't ideal. Having had a 16Mb TNT card and then changed to a V3 2000 I can honestly say that the graphics are far better using Glide. The framerate is more consistent for a start. With my P3 800 and the V3 2000 o/ced to 150Mhz using the v1.05.02 Beta drivers I get a rock solid 36fps with all forward details switched on, mirrors set to cars and track, specular effects and dynanmic lighting enabled and the detail bias set to half way. This includes sitting at the back of the grid. Cheers Phil Lee -- F1 GPL Handicap: +19.30 secs F2 GPL Handicap: +130.91 secs Currently running in the F2 Festival League at http://www.geocities.com/f2_festival

"Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Hi fellow racers, > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > is a celery 400@450. > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > > Uwe

Hey Uwe, with that rig definately stick with the V3. You won't be sorry. When you go to an Athalon 3 ghz with GeForce IV 128 mb graphics board, that will be the time to switch to OpenGL. We'll both still be playing GPL then, won't we? Especially if Loki ports it to Linux. " The box said Windows 95 or better, so I installed Linux" Kevin

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> > Hi fellow racers, > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > is a celery 400@450. > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts,

Hi Uwe Stick with the Voodoo 3. -- Chuck Kandler A man is no less a Slave just because he is allowed to choose a new Master every four years. Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

Definitely Voodoo 3 - I was forced to switch to a TNT 2 Model 64 when my Voodoo 3 packed up (overheating, and I hadn't even overclocked it) - but it was *much* slower (possibly the fault of the D3D patch). "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Hi fellow racers, > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > is a celery 400@450. > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > > Uwe > -- > Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA > PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Hey folks, thanks for all your suggestions, I'll stick with the V3 then! ;-) Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

If GPL is your ONLY concern, stick with the V3. I'm using a TNT2 Ultra on my AMD K6-2 500 system and I get good performance in GPL, and VERY good performance in other D3D games. If GPL is your only concern, though, stick with the V3. -- JB In article <xVFM5.1430$[email hidden]>, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: > My money would be on the V3. > > "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote inmessage

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> news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi fellow racers, > > > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > > is a celery 400@450. > > > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > > > > Uwe > >

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I have a tnt2ultra, run gpl at 1024 x 768 with the d3d patch, pegged at 36fps with a piii 450 allot better than my v3 ever did "Neil Raine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l42N5.1473$[email hidden]... > Definitely Voodoo 3 - I was forced to switch to a TNT 2 Model 64 when my > Voodoo 3 packed up (overheating, and I hadn't even overclocked it) - butit

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> was *much* slower (possibly the fault of the D3D patch). > > "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi fellow racers, > > > > GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I > > now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) > > and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo > > 3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu > > is a celery 400@450. > > > > Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the > > D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > > > > Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > > > > Uwe > > -- > > Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA > > PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > >

Thats strange, it runs and looks horrible on my P2 400 with a TNT2, but fine with a V3 3000 in the same machine. It ran reasonably well with the TNT2 in my Athlon 750, but not a patch on the V3 performance. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> DarrenT <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hMsN5.23852$[email hidden]... > I have a tnt2ultra, run gpl at 1024 x 768 with the d3d patch, pegged at > 36fps with a piii 450 allot better than my v3 ever did

I have an Athlon 650 with a TNT2 Ultra and GPL D3D is fine in 1024x768 (very slight jerkiness with a full grid on screen) GP3 is also fine in 1024x768. My brother has a PIII 733 with a TNT2 M64 and it's considerably slower in both games. Andrew

Had a P3 500 with TNT2 (nonultra) and a Voodoo2 (12MB). I liked the image quality better with the TNT2. The Voodoo2 gave a better feeling of speed, that was until the D3D patch came out and then the Voodoo2 left and went to work to become the UMCServer on WinVroc. It has since left that computer and is awaiting time to be installed in another server so that it came be on all the time . . . soon there will be a UMCServer2. I really like the way GPL works with Nvidia video adapters. I am running a P3-850 with a GeForce 2 32MB DDR. 1280*1024 is nice. SLG [email hidden] (Uwe Schuerkamp) wrote:

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> >Hi fellow racers, > >GPL is pretty much the only windows game left on my HD. I >now have a used TNT2 Ultra lying around (32MB Version) >and wonder if it's worth the hassle replacing my Voodoo >3 2000 (not overclocked). Both are AGP cards, the cpu >is a celery 400@450. > >Would the TNT2 give me better frame rates using the >D3D patch or should I keep the Voodoo 3 2000? > >Thanks much in advance for your thoughts, > >Uwe >-- >Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ >GnuPG Fingerprint: 2093 20B8 B861 9358 A356 B01A E145 9249 5D27 33EA >PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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