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WARM UP! demo is available

31 posts by 19 people · 04 Nov 2000 16:05 UTC - 09 Nov 2000 17:08 UTC

Lankhor's Warm Up! demo released to poor reviews

A Lankhor representative announced the demo of Warm Up!, an F1 game. Most who tried it uninstalled it within minutes, citing canned physics, poor control and weak sound, and joked about the demo page's text borrowed from Microids' ant strategy game. JB argued that judging every sim against GPL discouraged publishers, and the thread drifted into nostalgia for old games.

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Wosco 04 Nov 2000 18:37 UTC#223008
Sure the cars don't have the same sponsors as in real life, but the graphics look pretty realistic to me. I will have to download the demo to see how bad the physics are. JB "Mojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Warm up! demo is available here : > > http://www.avault.com/ > or > www.joystick.fr
rik anthrax 04 Nov 2000 18:44 UTC#223031
no internet play -"what were they thinking"? and what the hell does this mean? "This strategic management game unlike any other will throw you into the brutal and amazing world of ants. Fights to the death, resource management and life within the ants' nest. Be careful, after starting this fascinating game you may never look at things the same way again" That came right off the "Warm-Up" homepage. They sound really confused! Mojo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Warm up! demo is available here : > > http://www.avault.com/ > or > www.joystick.fr
Richard "ZZ" Busch 05 Nov 2000 00:30 UTC#223101
I downloaded it. It lasted 10 minutes on my machine. I tried to set it up as a simulation. It sucked. I can't think of any racing game that was worse. Maybe that Formula 1 game about 3-4 years ago. -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member: Screamers Racing League IGPS Season 3 Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari GPL Rank 33.40 ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch? ----------------- Stressed is just Desserts backwards
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 00:30:28 GMT, Richard ZZ Busch <[email hidden]> wrote: >I downloaded it. It lasted 10 minutes on my machine. I tried to set it >up as a simulation. It sucked. I can't think of any racing game that was >worse. Maybe that Formula 1 game about 3-4 years ago. I just finished downloading the 90mb demo, but thanks for saving me the installation time... :) Andre
here here ZZ. It did not last that long on my machine. Back to gpl for us. When you already have the best it is tough for the rest. Brian Bowles "Richard ZZ Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> I downloaded it. It lasted 10 minutes on my machine. I tried to set it > up as a simulation. It sucked. I can't think of any racing game that was > worse. Maybe that Formula 1 game about 3-4 years ago. > > -- > Richard "ZZ" Busch > > Official member: > Screamers Racing League > IGPS Season 3 > Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge > Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari > GPL Rank 33.40 > ---------------- > Busch Motorsports: > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward > ----------------- > Busch Carpentry: > Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch? > ----------------- > Stressed is just Desserts backwards
Barton Brown 05 Nov 2000 04:23 UTC#223116
rik anthrax wrote: > and what the hell does this mean? > "This strategic management game unlike any other will throw you into the > brutal and amazing world of ants. Fights to the death, resource management > and life within the ants' nest. Be careful, after starting this fascinating > game you may never look at things the same way again" > That came right off the "Warm-Up" homepage. They sound really confused! Maybe somebody tossed in the splash screen code from "SimAnt" -- this title really sounds like a winner...
Regular Racer 05 Nov 2000 04:42 UTC#223038
WHERE'S JB???????????????????????? <grin> "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QNYM5.1862$[email hidden]... > no internet play -"what were they thinking"? > > and what the hell does this mean? > "This strategic management game unlike any other will throw you into the > brutal and amazing world of ants. Fights to the death, resource management > and life within the ants' nest. Be careful, after starting thisfascinating
Quoted text (13 lines)> game you may never look at things the same way again" > That came right off the "Warm-Up" homepage. They sound really confused! > > Mojo <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Warm up! demo is available here : > > > > http://www.avault.com/ > > or > > www.joystick.fr > >
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 04:23:16 GMT, Barton Brown <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>rik anthrax wrote: > >> and what the hell does this mean? >> "This strategic management game unlike any other will throw you into the >> brutal and amazing world of ants. Fights to the death, resource management >> and life within the ants' nest. Be careful, after starting this fascinating >> game you may never look at things the same way again" >> That came right off the "Warm-Up" homepage. They sound really confused! > >Maybe somebody tossed in the splash screen code from "SimAnt" -- this >title really sounds like a winner...
Actually it's text from another Microids title called 'Empire Of The Ants'. They just released a 15-mission pack for it: 'Empire Of The Ants: The Wars In The West'. And NO, I'm not kidding here :) Andre
[email hidden] wrote: > snip > > Frankly, if either WSC or N4 drives/feels like GPL, I'll be VERY > disappointed -- I'd be willing to bet that a modern GT/Sports/F1 car > feels MUCH different than a 1967-vintage Grand Prix machine, so I would > EXPECT such a simulation to be/feel different as well. Well, who in his right mind demanded that cars in other sims have to drive/feel like the old F1 cars in GPL. They better try to be as real/believable as GPL, that's all... Isn't that in some FAQ somewhere already? ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
(unknown) 06 Nov 2000#222831
Hey, the drooling, slack-jawed GPL fan boys have already spoken -- what could I possibly add to their hardcore, in-depth 10-minute analyses? <G> It is safe to say, though, that like 100% of any other game you'll EVER encounter (INCLUDING NASCAR 4), the Warm Up demo ain't GPL, so why even bother in the first place? </IRONY> Me, I'll be downloading the demo later today (yes, it's true, I haven't got it installed yet!), and maybe then I'll add my own two cents. In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth even trying." Repeat as needed. -- JB In article <9z5N5.1364$[email hidden]>, "Regular Racer" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> WHERE'S JB???????????????????????? > <grin> > > "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QNYM5.1862$[email hidden]... > > no internet play -"what were they thinking"? > > > > and what the hell does this mean? > > "This strategic management game unlike any other will throw you
into the > > brutal and amazing world of ants. Fights to the death, resourcemanagement > > and life within the ants' nest. Be careful, after starting this > fascinating > > game you may never look at things the same way again" > > That came right off the "Warm-Up" homepage. They sound reallyconfused!
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > > Mojo <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Warm up! demo is available here : > > > > > > http://www.avault.com/ > > > or > > > www.joystick.fr > > > > > >
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In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Actually it's text from another Microids title called 'Empire Of The > Ants'. They just released a 15-mission pack for it: 'Empire Of The > Ants: The Wars In The West'. And NO, I'm not kidding here :) > > Andre >
I'm thinking this publisher needs to hook up with WizardWorks and get working on a possible swamp/ant tie-in product. You know, 'the thrill of swamp buggy racing combined with the danger of being eaten alive by an ant colony!' ..or, 'swamps, ant larve, and racing- deal with it!!' MR Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
(unknown) 06 Nov 2000#222876
And if people keep following this advice, then we'd all better accept that we'll never see any publisher bring anything more advanced than "Test Drive 6" to market ever again. Frankly, if either WSC or N4 drives/feels like GPL, I'll be VERY disappointed -- I'd be willing to bet that a modern GT/Sports/F1 car feels MUCH different than a 1967-vintage Grand Prix machine, so I would EXPECT such a simulation to be/feel different as well. I say judge each sim based on its own merits, or prepare to use this as the sim racing mantra for years to come: "Bring on Test Drive 7!" -- JB In article <8u6k8l$lqp$[email hidden]>, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Good advice !! ;) > > -- > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u69a9
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Quoted text (9 lines)> > > In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth > > even trying." > > > > Repeat as needed. > > > > -- JB > >
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This would make a finger-snipping 8 hours on my machine. If I get very bored... ;-) JensSchumi On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 03:51:14 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > >I just finished downloading the 90mb demo, but thanks for saving me >the installation time... :) > >Andre --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61
Ian P 06 Nov 2000 15:55 UTC#222864
Good advice !! ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u69a9$3do$[email hidden]... > In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth > even trying." > > Repeat as needed. > > -- JB
Incubus 06 Nov 2000 17:09 UTC#222717
I could have used this demo to clean my carpet...that's how much it sucked. "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u6k8l$lqp$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> Good advice !! ;) > > -- > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u69a9$3do$[email hidden]... > > > In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth > > even trying." > > > > Repeat as needed. > > > > -- JB > > >
Regular Racer 06 Nov 2000 19:01 UTC#222886
Very good point JB!!! <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u6p5o$hh7$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (39 lines)> And if people keep following this advice, then we'd all better accept > that we'll never see any publisher bring anything more advanced than > "Test Drive 6" to market ever again. > > Frankly, if either WSC or N4 drives/feels like GPL, I'll be VERY > disappointed -- I'd be willing to bet that a modern GT/Sports/F1 car > feels MUCH different than a 1967-vintage Grand Prix machine, so I would > EXPECT such a simulation to be/feel different as well. > > I say judge each sim based on its own merits, or prepare to use this as > the sim racing mantra for years to come: > > "Bring on Test Drive 7!" > > -- JB > > In article <8u6k8l$lqp$[email hidden]>, > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Good advice !! ;) > > > > -- > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u69a9 > $3do$[email hidden]... > > > > > In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth > > > even trying." > > > > > > Repeat as needed. > > > > > > -- JB > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.
daxe 06 Nov 2000 23:04 UTC#222775
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:48:10 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >It is safe to say, though, that like 100% of any other game you'll EVER >encounter (INCLUDING NASCAR 4), the Warm Up demo ain't GPL, so why even >bother in the first place? > ></IRONY> OOP! Bad HTML. where's the beginning of that tag? Shame on you, JB. :o) >Me, I'll be downloading the demo later today (yes, it's true, I haven't >got it installed yet!), and maybe then I'll add my own two cents. > >In the meantime, remember kiddies, "It's not GPL, so it's not worth >even trying." I don't even like GPL, but Warmup still sucks. Don't bother wasting your time. It looks nice, but no better than anything else today and the control stinks. The sound is wimpy and the spins are so canned even *I* think they feel fake. ~daxe
EldredP 07 Nov 2000#222489
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
Quoted text (12 lines)>>Oh, MAN - memories... I spent MANY hours playing BH 1942, Their Finest >Hour, >>and SWoTL...<g> > >Same here Eldred, I spent months playing Their Finest Hour, at the >time it was an amazing game with a very high replayability rate. >A couple of months ago I tried it on my Amiga emulator... what a >bummer, how the hell could I have enjoyed this game so much? >Amazing how quickly games get older. >Just for fun, install GP1 or Red Baron 1 on your pc again if you still >can find the disks... >
I have them BOTH - I'll probably re-install, along with TFH, etc(30GB drive...) :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
(unknown) 07 Nov 2000 01:04 UTC#222728
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:48:10 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > ></IRONY> > OOP! Bad HTML. where's the beginning of that tag? Shame on you, JB. > :o) My bad! How sloppy of me! <G> > I don't even like GPL, but Warmup still sucks. Don't bother wasting > your time. It looks nice, but no better than anything else today and > the control stinks. The sound is wimpy and the spins are so canned > even *I* think they feel fake. LOL! Well, I just downloaded it, and despite everybody's advice to the contrary, I think I'm actually going to go ahead and install it. Everybody else seems to be waiting for the next GPL, but I'm apparently willing to accept much less. For example, in the flight sim realm, Falcon 4.0 is undoubtedly THE king, but although I've been out of flight sims for a while, I can still remember back when Falcon 3.0 was tops, and if I recall correctly, the "Jetfighter" and "Jetfighter 2" games were a TON of fun, even if they weren't as realistic as Falcon 3.0 -- and I had a TON of fun with Lucas Art's "Battle of Britain" game, too, even though they didn't quite measure up to Falcon 3.0. I remember having MANY fun battles in BoB and Jetfighter, whereas all I can really recall from Falcon 3.0 was a LOT of frustration, punctuated by the occasional victory. True, it WAS rewarding, but I DO like to eke out a little fun and relaxation from my hobby from time to time. ;-) So bring on Warm Up -- and let's just hope that maybe it (or something else in the near future) turns out to be the "Jetfighter" of the driving sim world, because you can bet that it won't be the next GPL (which MAY be a good thing in some instances)! <G> -- JB (purveyor of heretical sim thoughts and sloppy html) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 01:04:34 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >LOL! Well, I just downloaded it, and despite everybody's advice to the >contrary, I think I'm actually going to go ahead and install it. >Everybody else seems to be waiting for the next GPL, but I'm apparently >willing to accept much less. I think that's an unfair generalization. Even though I love GPL, I have downloaded and played (for 20 minutes even!) the Hot Chix demo, finished Lego Racers using several cars (of my design, of course), played Big Red Racing multiplayer (split screen) countless times, and even enjoyed the notoriously difficult-to-control Speed Busters. In other words, my standards may be high, but they can also be very low! Martin (downloading the demo of that Linux penguin racing game) Long Live Nigel Mansell!
In article <3a095b7a.96739231@news>, [email hidden] (Martin Ursua) wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 01:04:34 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > I think that's an unfair generalization. Even though I love > GPL, I have downloaded and played (for 20 minutes even!) the Hot Chix > demo, finished Lego Racers using several cars (of my design, of > course), played Big Red Racing multiplayer (split screen) countless > times, and even enjoyed the notoriously difficult-to-control Speed > Busters. > > In other words, my standards may be high, but they can also be > very low! > > Martin (downloading the demo of that Linux penguin racing game) > Long Live Nigel Mansell!
My hat's off to you, Martin -- I also own Speed Busters, and I BOUGHT the full version after playing the Hot Chix demo (the winter track features my favorite graphics in any sim, ever -- I occasionally fire it up just to marvel at the Christmas Lights over the villages!). ;-) -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
In article <8u7keu$aqd$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes:
Quoted text (11 lines)>For example, in the flight sim realm, Falcon 4.0 is undoubtedly THE >king, but although I've been out of flight sims for a while, I can >still remember back when Falcon 3.0 was tops, and if I recall >correctly, the "Jetfighter" and "Jetfighter 2" games were a TON of fun, >even if they weren't as realistic as Falcon 3.0 -- and I had a TON of >fun with Lucas Art's "Battle of Britain" game, too, even though they >didn't quite measure up to Falcon 3.0. I remember having MANY fun >battles in BoB and Jetfighter, whereas all I can really recall from >Falcon 3.0 was a LOT of frustration, punctuated by the occasional >victory. True, it WAS rewarding, but I DO like to eke out a little fun >and relaxation from my hobby from time to time.
Oh, MAN - memories... I spent MANY hours playing BH 1942, Their Finest Hour, and SWoTL...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On 07 Nov 2000 03:54:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >Oh, MAN - memories... I spent MANY hours playing BH 1942, Their Finest Hour, >and SWoTL...<g> Same here Eldred, I spent months playing Their Finest Hour, at the time it was an amazing game with a very high replayability rate. A couple of months ago I tried it on my Amiga emulator... what a bummer, how the hell could I have enjoyed this game so much? Amazing how quickly games get older. Just for fun, install GP1 or Red Baron 1 on your pc again if you still can find the disks... Andre
Quoted text (9 lines)>Eldred >-- >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL hcp. +49.12 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
How about "Aces of the Pacific" or "Aces Over Europe".... <grin> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 07 Nov 2000 03:54:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > > > >Oh, MAN - memories... I spent MANY hours playing BH 1942, Their FinestHour,
Quoted text (20 lines)> >and SWoTL...<g> > > Same here Eldred, I spent months playing Their Finest Hour, at the > time it was an amazing game with a very high replayability rate. > A couple of months ago I tried it on my Amiga emulator... what a > bummer, how the hell could I have enjoyed this game so much? > Amazing how quickly games get older. > Just for fun, install GP1 or Red Baron 1 on your pc again if you still > can find the disks... > > Andre > > > >Eldred > >-- > >Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > >GPL hcp. +49.12 > > > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you > >with experience... > >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >
JS 08 Nov 2000 00:37 UTC↳ reply to Incubus#222537
LOL Jens On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:09:05 +1100, "Incubus" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I could have used this demo to clean my carpet...that's how much it sucked. > --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61
Andre Warringa 08 Nov 2000 00:52 UTC#222439
On 07 Nov 2000 22:14:57 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I have them BOTH - I'll probably re-install, along with TFH, etc(30GB drive...) >:) You don't need 30GB - 1 meg will be enough for all those games :) Andre >Eldred
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:26:06 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)>On 07 Nov 2000 03:54:11 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >> >>Oh, MAN - memories... I spent MANY hours playing BH 1942, Their Finest Hour, >>and SWoTL...<g> > >Same here Eldred, I spent months playing Their Finest Hour, at the >time it was an amazing game with a very high replayability rate. >A couple of months ago I tried it on my Amiga emulator... what a >bummer, how the hell could I have enjoyed this game so much? >Amazing how quickly games get older. >Just for fun, install GP1 or Red Baron 1 on your pc again if you still >can find the disks... >
Wow. Are you me? ;-) Not too long I was back at my folk's place, and my 'puter was stuck here. To kill time I dug out a bunch of my old games to fire up on the old 386-DX (ahh, sweet memories of my youth. Those were the best days of my life on those disks) and in amongst them were some of my all time faves, including those you listed. And no, once i've experienced 3D acceleration, awesome sound and everything we have come to expect from today's titles - well, it was underwhelming. Still, thems were the days huh? I even got to reminded that half the fun was spending a few hours tweaking your autoexec.bat and config.sys files to get a game running... DG
In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (9 lines)>On 07 Nov 2000 22:14:57 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>I have them BOTH - I'll probably re-install, along with TFH, etc(30GB >drive...) >>:) > >You don't need 30GB - 1 meg will be enough for all those games :) > >Andre
Yeah, I forgot about that. But if I ever load ALL the games I own....<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
On 09 Nov 2000 02:15:07 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>On 07 Nov 2000 22:14:57 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >> >>>I have them BOTH - I'll probably re-install, along with TFH, etc(30GB >>drive...) >>>:) >> >>You don't need 30GB - 1 meg will be enough for all those games :) >> >>Andre > >Yeah, I forgot about that. But if I ever load ALL the games I own....<g>
Same here :) A couple of months ago I bought a CD at a market, with THOUSANDS of games for my C64 emulator.. on one cd :) Finally I could throw those hundreds of C64 disks in the trashcan... Andre >Eldred

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