If you look carefully, you'll see some "VROOM!" trackside billboards in
the Warm Up! demo.
;-)
-- JB
In article <T2XN5.198$[email hidden]>,
"Lutrell" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I remember a game by Lankhor called Vroom! on my Atari ST. It wasvery arcade
> like, but just enough realistic action to have a lot of fun. I alsohad GP1 but
> it was too slow and frustrating to drive(about 10 fps and had to keepswapping
> floppy disks)
> You will probably see good reviews of this game for the mass market(Need for
> Speed fans that want to drive F1 cars).
> The helmet view is an interesting option with its simulatedtransparent face
Warringa)
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>Great, after downloading the demo I read all those negative reviews
>and deleted the demo before even installing - downloading it for the
>2nd time now :)
>
>Andre
HAHA!!!!!
:)
Okay, I just spent over an HOUR behind the wheel of the Warm Up! demo,
and I have to say that I don't think it's as bad as everybody has made
it out to be. Yes, it's true, I just spent an entire hour of my
precious time that COULD have been spent at the 'Ring, trying to
improve my GPLRank by a second or two -- I hang my head in simulated
shame.
All that aside, though, Warm Up! feels VERY much like F1WGP -- and it
should, since I believe they both share the same basic game engine from
Lankhor. The first time I fired up the F1WGP demo, I was immediately
reminded of GP2 . . . and that feeling carried over to Warm Up! as
well. Fast, fun, GREAT graphics, NICE in-cockpit effects, and very
engaging overall (I like to turn off the cornering anticipation and
just go with either the longitudinal effects by themselves, or the
longitudinal and latitudinal effects combined). The in-cockpit view is
solidly arcade-like, but the driving experience itself is as
exhilirating as doing laps in GP3 as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it's
no GPL contender, but it doesn't pretend to be, either.
I read an interview with someone from Lankhor prior to the release of
Warm Up!, and they mentioned that they were looking for a realistic
arcade experience -- something along the lines of "Pole Position" with
modern graphics and updated physics/realism. In fact, I believe that
the game was originally to be named "Pole Position," but licensing
issues prevented them from using that name, which led to the
current "Warm Up!" moniker.
With the "Pole Position" angle in mind, I think "Warm Up!" succeeds in
a big way. It's not going to unseat F1 2000 or GP3 as the current king
of modern F1 sims, but neither is it anywhere near as bad as "Test
Drive 6" or "Spirit Of Speed" (remember THAT one?). Warm Up! is better
than a pure arcade offering, but MUCH more relaxed than a lot of other
harcore sims, yet it looks like it has a lot of promise as a fun,
exciting, and engaging diversion. It also looks like it could serve as
an IDEAL entry point for the novice racer, too, offering some realistic
physics modeling (some of which MAY be canned), while still being fast
and relaxed enough to be fun.
As for the canned physics, there might be some truth to that, but it
does seem less canned than GP2, for example. And again, the fun level
reminds me of GP2, which makes me wonder how well Warm Up! would have
been received by us all had it arrived with Crammond's name attached to
it. My guess is that the fanfare would have been deafening.
All in all, though, if you found F1WGP to be the least bit enjoyable,
then you should love Warm Up!, because it seems to be more of the same,
only better (in subtle ways, anyway).
My single biggest beef with Warm Up! (and F1WGP) is the tire skid
noises -- they are shrill, strident, and decidedly unrealistic-
sounding, with no build-up as the limits of adhesion approach. The
tire squeal effects sound like they could have been pulled straight out
of an arcade racer like "Test Drive 6" (or maybe even the old "Pole
Position" arcade racer), and that single sound effect alone keeps the
game from being more immersive -- AND realistic -- than it ultimately
could be.
But all in all, it's not as bad as some have made it out to be. It IS
a huge download, but I'd have to say it's worth it if you have a fast
connection and you're looking for an interesting diversion. Just make
sure that you're also willing to keep your expectations at a realistic
level before you fire it up.
The bottom line: I'd have to say that Warm Up! may be the "Need For
Speed" of open-wheel Grand Prix racers, which ain't entirely a bad
thing.
-- JB
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hey, i think this is a pretty good review and this is what i lurk around
here for. of course, with my 56k modem, don't think i'll download it just
yet. but thanx for a decent review other that "this sux"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8u7tbt$i08$[email hidden]...
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> Okay, I just spent over an HOUR behind the wheel of the Warm Up! demo, > and I have to say that I don't think it's as bad as everybody has made > it out to be. Yes, it's true, I just spent an entire hour of my > precious time that COULD have been spent at the 'Ring, trying to > improve my GPLRank by a second or two -- I hang my head in simulated > shame. > > All that aside, though, Warm Up! feels VERY much like F1WGP -- and it > should, since I believe they both share the same basic game engine from > Lankhor. The first time I fired up the F1WGP demo, I was immediately > reminded of GP2 . . . and that feeling carried over to Warm Up! as > well. Fast, fun, GREAT graphics, NICE in-cockpit effects, and very > engaging overall (I like to turn off the cornering anticipation and > just go with either the longitudinal effects by themselves, or the > longitudinal and latitudinal effects combined). The in-cockpit view is > solidly arcade-like, but the driving experience itself is as > exhilirating as doing laps in GP3 as far as I'm concerned. Yes, it's > no GPL contender, but it doesn't pretend to be, either. > > I read an interview with someone from Lankhor prior to the release of > Warm Up!, and they mentioned that they were looking for a realistic > arcade experience -- something along the lines of "Pole Position" with > modern graphics and updated physics/realism. In fact, I believe that > the game was originally to be named "Pole Position," but licensing > issues prevented them from using that name, which led to the > current "Warm Up!" moniker. > > With the "Pole Position" angle in mind, I think "Warm Up!" succeeds in > a big way. It's not going to unseat F1 2000 or GP3 as the current king > of modern F1 sims, but neither is it anywhere near as bad as "Test > Drive 6" or "Spirit Of Speed" (remember THAT one?). Warm Up! is better > than a pure arcade offering, but MUCH more relaxed than a lot of other > harcore sims, yet it looks like it has a lot of promise as a fun, > exciting, and engaging diversion. It also looks like it could serve as > an IDEAL entry point for the novice racer, too, offering some realistic > physics modeling (some of which MAY be canned), while still being fast > and relaxed enough to be fun. > > As for the canned physics, there might be some truth to that, but it > does seem less canned than GP2, for example. And again, the fun level > reminds me of GP2, which makes me wonder how well Warm Up! would have > been received by us all had it arrived with Crammond's name attached to > it. My guess is that the fanfare would have been deafening. > > All in all, though, if you found F1WGP to be the least bit enjoyable, > then you should love Warm Up!, because it seems to be more of the same, > only better (in subtle ways, anyway). > > My single biggest beef with Warm Up! (and F1WGP) is the tire skid > noises -- they are shrill, strident, and decidedly unrealistic- > sounding, with no build-up as the limits of adhesion approach. The > tire squeal effects sound like they could have been pulled straight out > of an arcade racer like "Test Drive 6" (or maybe even the old "Pole > Position" arcade racer), and that single sound effect alone keeps the > game from being more immersive -- AND realistic -- than it ultimately > could be. > > But all in all, it's not as bad as some have made it out to be. It IS > a huge download, but I'd have to say it's worth it if you have a fast > connection and you're looking for an interesting diversion. Just make > sure that you're also willing to keep your expectations at a realistic > level before you fire it up. > > The bottom line: I'd have to say that Warm Up! may be the "Need For > Speed" of open-wheel Grand Prix racers, which ain't entirely a bad > thing. > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 03:36:29 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:
<snip>
>The bottom line: I'd have to say that Warm Up! may be the "Need For
>Speed" of open-wheel Grand Prix racers, which ain't entirely a bad
>thing.
Great, after downloading the demo I read all those negative reviews
and deleted the demo before even installing - downloading it for the
2nd time now :)
Andre
>-- JB
>
>
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>Before you buy.
According to the Lankhor forum :
The 90+Mb demo was a bit larger than anticipated oweing
to a compiler error, Lankhor say they will be releasing a
smaller 70Mb one soon, still a big file but maybe worth
waiting for.
http://pub3.ezboard.com/flankhorandcofrm4.showMessage?topicID=11.topic
As for the game, it's not a sim and was never intended as
one (from Lankhors comments on their forum). It is likely
to, however, be a bloody good arcade/semi-realistic F1
racer with bucketloads of innovative features. Although
they are never gonna win any prizes for the quality of
the physics, they have and will bring new ideas into
future games/sims and for that they should be applauded.
This was posted in July by a Lankhor guy on their forum. I
particular liked the sound of the "in car lap with technical
information ..." part, great idea.
Maxx
"This game will inclued new game modes like real arcade mode (
Vroom-like ) and a Ghost chase.
A in-menu car editor is also inclued and all tracks are from 2000 and
2001 season.
The 3D engine has been improved, and also the physic and AI. All mode
exept Arcade can be played in 2 players. There are new garage setups.
We've put a new system of camera and race will inclued a warmup
pre-grid lap. Helicopter presentation is replaced by a in car lap with
technical information about speed, gear and curves.
Also other things will come ..."
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 06:15:37 GMT, "rufbeast"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>hey, i think this is a pretty good review and this is what i lurk around
>here for. of course, with my 56k modem, don't think i'll download it just
>yet. but thanx for a decent review other that "this sux"
>
>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:15:59 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]>
wrote:
It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP?
Andre
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> >According to the Lankhor forum : > >The 90+Mb demo was a bit larger than anticipated oweing >to a compiler error, Lankhor say they will be releasing a >smaller 70Mb one soon, still a big file but maybe worth >waiting for. > >http://pub3.ezboard.com/flankhorandcofrm4.showMessage?topicID=11.topicOn Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:21:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa)
wrote:
Yes Andre, the same!
Maxx
>It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP?
>
>Andre
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:30:43 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:21:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa)
>wrote:
>
>Yes Andre, the same!
If I would have known that I wouldn't have deleted the demo in the
first place before even installing it.. imho F1WGP is a great game!
Andre
>Maxx
>
>>It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP?
>>
>>Andre
>
I remember a game by Lankhor called Vroom! on my Atari ST. It was very arcade
like, but just enough realistic action to have a lot of fun. I also had GP1 but
it was too slow and frustrating to drive(about 10 fps and had to keep swapping
floppy disks)
You will probably see good reviews of this game for the mass market (Need for
Speed fans that want to drive F1 cars).
The helmet view is an interesting option with its simulated transparent face
shield.
Lutrell
Andre Warringa wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
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>On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:30:43 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:21:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) >>wrote: >> >>Yes Andre, the same! > >If I would have known that I wouldn't have deleted the demo in the >first place before even installing it.. imho F1WGP is a great game! > >Andre > >>Maxx >> >>>It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP? >>> >>>Andre >> >Regarding F1WGP: Did they ever straighten out the oversensitivity of the
brake pedal? I also enjoyed it for awhile, but the brake thing was a real
pain.
BTW: When will the retail verison of Warm-Up be available?
P.S.: If this is a double-post, I apologize. ......Netscape problems.
Andre Warringa wrote:
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> On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:30:43 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:21:05 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) > >wrote: > > > >Yes Andre, the same! > > If I would have known that I wouldn't have deleted the demo in the > first place before even installing it.. imho F1WGP is a great game! > > Andre > > >Maxx > > > >>It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP? > >> > >>Andre > >There are several beta patches available on the Lankhor Web site -- I
thought they helped the braking problems quite a bit.
-- JB
In article <[email hidden]>,
BRH <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Regarding F1WGP: Did they ever straighten out the oversensitivity ofthe
> brake pedal? I also enjoyed it for awhile, but the brake thing was areal
> pain.
>
> BTW: When will the retail verison of Warm-Up be available?
>
> P.S.: If this is a double-post, I apologize. ......Netscapeproblems.
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> > Andre Warringa wrote: > > > On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:30:43 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:21:05 GMT, [email hidden] (AndreQuoted text (17 lines)
> > >wrote: > > > > > >Yes Andre, the same! > > > > If I would have known that I wouldn't have deleted the demo in the > > first place before even installing it.. imho F1WGP is a great game! > > > > Andre > > > > >Maxx > > > > > >>It's from Lankhor, also from the same creators from F1WGP? > > >> > > >>Andre > > > > >Retailed version should be available in a few days.
Warm up! demo is now available at www.joystick.fr and its size is
56Mb instead of 94Mb.
Check http://www.joystick.fr/downloads/fiche_download.php3?ID=786
Certainly seems that way doesn't it. Didn't think I was particularly this
way or the other today. As you know I'm not really prone to moods generally.
Only noticed I was being negative when I re-read my posts.
Must be getting old (always been a grouch ;-)).
Jan.
=---
m.seery wrot...
> Boy Jan. You are in a shit of a mood today :-)
>
> MS
and?
Jan.<g>
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Mojo wrote...
>
> Warm up! PC version is available (in France).
Warm up! PC version is available (in France).
Boy Jan. You are in a shit of a mood today :-)
MS
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