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I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if thats fast enough for online? Nick

On Wed 08 Nov 2000 10:32:09p, Nick, a small furry creature wrote: >I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at >Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if >thats fast enough for online? Fast doesn't really matter online. Not crashing does. If you are still in one piece halfway around lap one, you've hugely increased your chances of winning... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

I wouldn't worry so much about lap times online. Worry about completeing the race 1st, going fast 2nd. I can't begin to tell you how many online races are won by simply surviving the whole race... At the Glen, make it through the start and the 1st corners and its all downhill from there! |8-) G Patricks >On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:32:09 GMT, "Nick, a small furry creature" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at >Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if >thats fast enough for online? > >Nick

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>On Wed 08 Nov 2000 10:32:09p, Nick, a small furry creature wrote: > >>I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at >>Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if >>thats fast enough for online? > >Fast doesn't really matter online. Not crashing does. If you are still in >one piece halfway around lap one, you've hugely increased your chances of >winning... >

My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so much slower than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because they start faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked out, I've passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruin another race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste to pass everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun, because I *know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the cars who are still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As a result, I don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around by myself, I could do it on my own machine... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

That sounds way too fimiliar! SLG [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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> >My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so much slower >than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because they start >faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked out, I've >passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruin another >race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste to pass >everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun, because I >*know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the cars who are >still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As a result, I >don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around by myself, I >could do it on my own machine... > >Eldred >--

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are due to too many English classes/teachers)

Pick-up races are hit and miss but they can be good, you just need to find at least one person that races at your speed. I ran 2 F1 Monza races last night on-line. The first race wasn't anything special (actually sounded much like Eldred described) but the second one was a blast. Spent the first 4 laps nose to tail with the leader (thanks Tom S). For two consecutive laps I'd use the draft to pass him on the main straight and then he'd do the same coming into parabolica. We even went side by side through parabolica once. Unfortunately though I had a quick trip through the gravel at parabolica on the 5th lap and ended up well back at the finish (but still in second). At other races I've had other people slow down after an off just so we could race each other. As people have said before, on-line can be crappy but when its good, its *really* good. KenMacKay Halifax, Canada GPL F1 Handicap +80.40 GPL F3 handicap +367.61 "Just when I think I've heard the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking." Hank Hill Steve Garrotto wrote:

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> That sounds way too fimiliar! > > SLG > > [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > > >My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so much slower > >than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because they start > >faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked out, I've > >passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruin another > >race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste to pass > >everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun, because I > >*know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the cars who are > >still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As a result, I > >don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around by myself, I > >could do it on my own machine... > > > >Eldred > >-- > > (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new > and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are > due to too many English classes/teachers)

> My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so muchslower > than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because theystart > faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked out,I've > passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruin another > race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste topass > everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun, because I > *know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the carswho are > still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As aresult, I > don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around by myself,I > could do it on my own machine... > > Eldred Eldred, oh Eldred..... You're still one of a kind, arent you? And you still are not sure if this is negative criticism or a compliment..... You don't spin often, do you? You are just slow? Do you still drive as if you have paid for the car? (Yes, I know this comment doesn't improve your driving. I just can't resist repeating it :-)) I've been reading your postings for almost a year, and have *still* not raced you. Or, more precisely: If I have raced you, I just haven't noticed it. If the latter is true, you are not a bad racer. You are just slower than me. Thing is: You have become an icon. Just like Greger Huttu, but with a negative sign. Greger obviously has earned his reputation, but your GPLrank indicates that you are not as slow as people are lead to believe. You are the anti-Greger :-) I'd rather race a slow, clean racer than a fast racer that does not race cleanly. I'm sure most people would agree with me. If you were to get a negative GPLRank, it would be a loss to the GPL community. The community needs backmarkers like you. BTW, you are getting too fast for most newbies :-) You are to the slower drivers what Greger Huttu is to the faster drivers: The goal. The benchmark. You got a cup named after you. Greger did not. You are successfull, Eldred. You are probably the most respected backmarker of all times. (Was this a negative or positive remark? :-)) LFB, Eldred. LFB. It is a useful tool for stabilizing the car while braking. Actually, when done properly, you'll find that braking distance is shortened if you brake hard while pressing the gas *simultaneously* (!) (hav to decreas your brake pressure). Also, when entering a corner too fast and the rear end tries to pass the front, applying more throttle while remaining brake pressure may be the thing to do (both provided you use 54 per cent brake balance or less (lotus)). I am lead to belive the performance (with regards to speed) is negatively correlated to age. It is my impression that the fast guys are in their early 20s, or even younger. The rest of us has experience that exceeds our guts. That is why we will never do a WR. Keep on GPL-ing, Eldred. BTW: I miss your servers. Jon Andersen

In article <WAYO5.870$[email hidden]>, "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so much >slower >> than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because they >start >> faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked out, >I've >> passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruin another >> race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste to >pass >> everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun, because I >> *know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the cars >who are >> still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As a >result, I >> don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around by myself, >I >> could do it on my own machine... >> >> Eldred > >Eldred, oh Eldred..... You're still one of a kind, arent you? > >And you still are not sure if this is negative criticism or a >compliment..... > >You don't spin often, do you? You are just slow? >

Actually, I *don't* spin often online. Wrecking CERTAINLY isn't the way to place well...:) >Do you still drive as if you have paid for the car? (Yes, I know this >comment doesn't improve your driving. I just can't resist repeating it :-)) That's really the only time I get into trouble(other than being RUN off the road). When I'm trying to catch a faster driver, or stay ahead of one... > >I've been reading your postings for almost a year, and have *still* not >raced you. Or, more precisely: If I have raced you, I just haven't noticed >it. If the latter is true, you are not a bad racer. You are just slower than >me. >[snip some embarrassing stuff] >I'd rather race a slow, clean racer than a fast racer that does not race >cleanly. I'm sure most people would agree with me. It still boils down to having someone close to your skill level to race against. Apparently, all the races I jump into have 'closet' hotshoes, who rocket away at the start. I'm typically about 3-7 seconds slower per lap, depending on the track. In the longer races, my goal is usually just to stay on the lead LAP.<g> In my league, I've only done it ONCE. And that was at Monza... > >If you were to get a negative GPLRank, it would be a loss to the GPL >community. The community needs backmarkers like you. BTW, you are getting >too fast for most newbies :-)Well, I should HOPE so! I've had the freakin' game for TWO YEARS... [snip some more embarrassing stuf]

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>LFB, Eldred. LFB. It is a useful tool for stabilizing the car while braking. >Actually, when done properly, you'll find that braking distance is shortened >if you brake hard while pressing the gas *simultaneously* (!) (hav to >decreas your brake pressure). Also, when entering a corner too fast and the >rear end tries to pass the front, applying more throttle while remaining >brake pressure may be the thing to do (both provided you use 54 per cent >brake balance or less (lotus)).

I'm driving with LFB now. It's probably gained me a second or so on each track. Not exactly the 'magic bullet' I had hoped it would be... > >I am lead to belive the performance (with regards to speed) is negatively >correlated to age. It is my impression that the fast guys are in their early >20s, or even younger. The rest of us has experience that exceeds our guts. >That is why we will never do a WR. >That's also why they send young people to fight wars. 18-25 year olds are invincible(to them)<g>. >Keep on GPL-ing, Eldred. > >BTW: I miss your servers.I'll see what I can do...glad you like 'em. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Nick, better you train for 40 (or at least 14) laps without incident before going online. Only an advice. JensSchumi BTW 4 laps would be sufficient for the n-ring though ;-) On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:32:09 GMT, "Nick, a small furry creature" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at >Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if >thats fast enough for online? > >Nick --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61

He has a good point. A Monza online race is normally 11 laps. So I would make sure to get in a good amount of laps before going online...just so that you know you can run the full 11 lap race without wrecking. JB "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Nick, > better you train for 40 (or at least 14) laps without incident beforegoing

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> online. > > Only an advice. > > JensSchumi > > BTW 4 laps would be sufficient for the n-ring though ;-) > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:32:09 GMT, "Nick, a small furry creature" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I did it!!! I actually completed 4 straight laps without spinning at > >Watkins Glen in an F2 Eagle. I had a best lap of 1:16.65, I wonder if > >thats fast enough for online? > > > >Nick > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > > GPLRank: -2.61

In article <aTnP5.5047$[email hidden]>, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Hey Eldred, it's the GPL Brat again. ;) (The 13 year old with a -6 GPLRank) > >I just started LFB'ing a month ago. Before I used my right foot to brake, >eeek!. I found that, for pretty much all courses but Monza, think like a >rally driver. Seriously. (Without the pendulum turns and slowing down >sideways :)) A REALLY good thing to do (especially at Zandy) is to try to >keep the wheel nearly straight all the time, and turn the car into the >corner with the brakes, and get it out of the end by getting on the gas >pretty hard and letting it rotate, also at Zandy a bit of a pendulum turn >works well. When you trailbrake into a turn, try to point the car with the >brakes exactly where you want the nose to be, then run the gas into the >brakes and do some modulation crap and the car is placed exactly where you >want it and no speed was scrubbed off by using that damn steering wheel ;) > >I want to race you sometime. I usally race in a pick-up race once a day or >so, usually just to drive and have fun passing people. My serious racing is >in IGPLC, where I'm afraid to pass people because there's no Shift-R's and >I'm 4th out of 19 in the championship, don't want to ruin that. >

Why do you want to race me? You're obviously much better than me - it wouldn't be any contest. I wouldn't know what a top 5 in a championship FELT like - nice going! Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hey Eldred, it's the GPL Brat again. ;) (The 13 year old with a -6 GPLRank) I just started LFB'ing a month ago. Before I used my right foot to brake, eeek!. I found that, for pretty much all courses but Monza, think like a rally driver. Seriously. (Without the pendulum turns and slowing down sideways :)) A REALLY good thing to do (especially at Zandy) is to try to keep the wheel nearly straight all the time, and turn the car into the corner with the brakes, and get it out of the end by getting on the gas pretty hard and letting it rotate, also at Zandy a bit of a pendulum turn works well. When you trailbrake into a turn, try to point the car with the brakes exactly where you want the nose to be, then run the gas into the brakes and do some modulation crap and the car is placed exactly where you want it and no speed was scrubbed off by using that damn steering wheel ;) I want to race you sometime. I usally race in a pick-up race once a day or so, usually just to drive and have fun passing people. My serious racing is in IGPLC, where I'm afraid to pass people because there's no Shift-R's and I'm 4th out of 19 in the championship, don't want to ruin that. Thanks, Alex EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <WAYO5.870$[email hidden]>, "Jon Andersen" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> My typical online race goes like this: I start in the back, so much > >slower > >> than everyone else. I avoid the startline and T1 carnage, because they > >start > >> faster. By the time I've gone half a lap, the fast guys have checked

out, > >I've > >> passed half the field, and half of THOSE have disco'd, off to ruinanother > >> race. The ones who didn't disco run me off the road in their haste to > >pass > >> everybody. I almost hate to pass someone who's crashed or spun,because I > >> *know* they're gonna catch me again. I usually end up last of the cars > >who are > >> still running - the only people I beat are those who disco'd... As a > >result, I > >> don't run VROC pickup races often. If I wanted to drive around bymyself,

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> >I > >> could do it on my own machine... > >> > >> Eldred > > > >Eldred, oh Eldred..... You're still one of a kind, arent you? > > > >And you still are not sure if this is negative criticism or a > >compliment..... > > > >You don't spin often, do you? You are just slow? > > > Actually, I *don't* spin often online. Wrecking CERTAINLY isn't the way

to > place well...:) > > >Do you still drive as if you have paid for the car? (Yes, I know this > >comment doesn't improve your driving. I just can't resist repeating it:-)) > > That's really the only time I get into trouble(other than being RUN offthe > road). When I'm trying to catch a faster driver, or stay ahead of one... > > > > >I've been reading your postings for almost a year, and have *still* not > >raced you. Or, more precisely: If I have raced you, I just haven'tnoticed > >it. If the latter is true, you are not a bad racer. You are just slowerthan

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> >me. > > > [snip some embarrassing stuff] > > >I'd rather race a slow, clean racer than a fast racer that does not race > >cleanly. I'm sure most people would agree with me. > > It still boils down to having someone close to your skill level to race > against. Apparently, all the races I jump into have 'closet' hotshoes,

who > rocket away at the start. > I'm typically about 3-7 seconds slower per lap, depending on the track.In the > longer races, my goal is usually just to stay on the lead LAP.<g> In my > league, I've only done it ONCE. And that was at Monza... > > > > >If you were to get a negative GPLRank, it would be a loss to the GPL > >community. The community needs backmarkers like you. BTW, you aregetting > >too fast for most newbies :-) > Well, I should HOPE so! I've had the freakin' game for TWO YEARS... > > [snip some more embarrassing stuf] > > >LFB, Eldred. LFB. It is a useful tool for stabilizing the car whilebraking. > >Actually, when done properly, you'll find that braking distance isshortened > >if you brake hard while pressing the gas *simultaneously* (!) (hav to > >decreas your brake pressure). Also, when entering a corner too fast andthe

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> >rear end tries to pass the front, applying more throttle while remaining > >brake pressure may be the thing to do (both provided you use 54 per cent > >brake balance or less (lotus)). > > I'm driving with LFB now. It's probably gained me a second or so on each > track. Not exactly the 'magic bullet' I had hoped it would be... > > > >I am lead to belive the performance (with regards to speed) is negatively > >correlated to age. It is my impression that the fast guys are in their

early > >20s, or even younger. The rest of us has experience that exceeds ourguts.

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> >That is why we will never do a WR. > > > That's also why they send young people to fight wars. 18-25 year olds are > invincible(to them)<g>. > > >Keep on GPL-ing, Eldred. > > > >BTW: I miss your servers. > I'll see what I can do...glad you like 'em. > > Eldred > > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +49.12 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Brat, You should go to school and work on your career instead of frying your brain in front of the monitor. At least we old farts had a chance then ;-) JensSchumi On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:11:02 GMT, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey Eldred, it's the GPL Brat again. ;) (The 13 year old with a -6 GPLRank) --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61

LOL, JensSchumi On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:39:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Disgruntled Goat) wrote: >Naw, let em play That way i'll still be a chance at employment after >graduation. > >DG > --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -2.61

On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:54:43 GMT, [email hidden] (JS) wrote: >Brat, >You should go to school and work on your career instead of frying your brain in >front of the monitor. > >At least we old farts had a chance then ;-) > Naw, let em play That way i'll still be a chance at employment after graduation. DG