Re: Best rally sim?

If you have a powerful machine, then Rally Championship provides beautiful graphics. Gamplay is solid too; lots of fun. Raymond ACT LABS www.act-labs.com On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:27:30 GMT, "Charles F. Castor Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote: >What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? >

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:38:49 -0800, "kb" <[email hidden]> wrote: Hwat is WW2F ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thore Sorensen - [email hidden] DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals?

Colin McRae Rally is HUGE fun, but from what I've heard, Rally Masters might be slightly more realistic, but very difficult to control.

EA's Mobil 1 Rally Championship. You can't go wrong with this title. Magically beautiful in stereoscopic mode. Best depth perception. All 3D objects. Fun to drive. This is the equivalent of Jane's WW2F of Rally games. kb Charles F. Castor Jr. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? >

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:27:30 GMT, "Charles F. Castor Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote: >What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? Yup, Andrew's posting is like the way I'd put it too... RM is more polished, handling seems sorta realistic, but ...weird, erratic sometimes. I also think things are canned. Got rid of it before the 3.0 patch, though, I heard some handling issues were addressed. CMR is great great rally fun, but it hasn't aged as well as for example GPL has. I fired it up a couple of weeks ago, and was appalled over the graphics... The only real viable candidate for FSAA I've had so far. That made miracles for that game, but still, it looked nothing near RM(or RC2000). I haven't mentioned Rally Championship, because I really really don't like or care for that game. Some very outspoken people(or rather one particular, hehe;) don't agree with this, but the physics is way off(to my perception). So way off that it cancel out the good points it has. The horrible steering doesn't help one bit either. But that's just me. Maybe someone who's come to terms with those flaws can push that game better. I'm suggesting waiting for CMR2, for what it's worth. I know I am, eagerly. /Magnus GPLRank hcp: -23.82

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:38:49 -0800, "kb" <[email hidden]> wrote: >EA's Mobil 1 Rally Championship. You can't go wrong with this title. >Magically beautiful in stereoscopic mode. Best depth perception. All >3D objects. Fun to drive. This is the equivalent of Jane's WW2F of >Rally games. Yep, if you go for the most realistic (yet it's still not realistic imho :) rallygame, go for Rally Championship 2000. Download the latest patch, it improves the game greatly. Personally I didn't like Rally Masters. Andre >kb >Charles F. Castor Jr. <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? >> >

Thore Sorensen wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:38:49 -0800, "kb" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Hwat is WW2F ? World War II Fighter Planes. Joel The pinnacle of open systems is: when moving from vendor to vendor, the design flaws stay the same. '90 GL1500A "Therapist" <SIGTERM>

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:22:34 GMT, Joel Leach <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thore Sorensen wrote: >> >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:38:49 -0800, "kb" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> Hwat is WW2F ? > >World War II Fighter Planes. >

Oh... thats too high for me...i prefer gravel under my wings...:) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thore Sorensen - [email hidden] DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:48:04 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's handling can be very frustrating, too twitchy and nervous, however if >you increase the "range", "curve" and "scale" in the game controller menu, >when you select the option/axis for steering, and give it a bit of >"deadzone" it improves the game dramatically!!!! Almost like a whole new >sim!It have no effect on the keyboard, though..:( I have a Logitech Wingman Formula (without FF) but I cant steer the car with it at all....I go off all the time... > >The patch that came out doesn't seem to do squat! It still has an issue with >FPS surging, in fact when on the gas for an extended period the co-drivers >voice goes up an octave!!!!!! Anyone else notice this???If I am on the gas for an extended period, i will go off the track, and the co-drivers comments is "That will cost us some time" - "Crash" - "Are you OK?" - "Be carefull!" - etc...:( > >Back to steering setups.... The defaults for my LWFF were 128 for all three >settings, I played around with them and found that by setting the "range" to >180, the "curve" to 140 and the "scale" to 180" and using a 7-8% deadzone >it's much more drive-able! Maybe I should try that instead of throwing my LWF out... I will try that this weekend...:) or ...install a keyboard in my "realworld" car?..Hmmm :) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thore Sorensen - [email hidden] DK-2700 Bronshoj - Denmark

I would agree with the assessment of running RC2000/Mobil 1 Rally on a top flight machine as it looks and handles wonderfully! With the latest patches it's probably the best Rally game out so far... Only one problem... It's modeled after the British Mobil One rally, so you won't have the variety of stages that you find in CMR or Rally Masters. As for Rally Masters... Some of the stages are graphically VERY VERY impressive, others are just so, so... It's like they created some stages a year after the first ones were designed perhaps? It's handling can be very frustrating, too twitchy and nervous, however if you increase the "range", "curve" and "scale" in the game controller menu, when you select the option/axis for steering, and give it a bit of "deadzone" it improves the game dramatically!!!! Almost like a whole new sim! The patch that came out doesn't seem to do squat! It still has an issue with FPS surging, in fact when on the gas for an extended period the co-drivers voice goes up an octave!!!!!! Anyone else notice this??? Back to steering setups.... The defaults for my LWFF were 128 for all three settings, I played around with them and found that by setting the "range" to 180, the "curve" to 140 and the "scale" to 180" and using a 7-8% deadzone it's much more drive-able! I'd love to hear feedback from others who have experimented with Rally Masters controller and car setup, settings in an effort to make the car more friendly to drive. An older game, Colin McRae Rally is still a lot of fun, I loved the way CMR handles, in fact I still fire it up from time to time and yes FSAA improves it a ton, but the way you can use your handbrake, foot brake and throttle to steer the car is a blast... I wish Rally Masters was this friendly! But I have found that in Rally masters I rarely need to use the foot brake, with the above settings just lifting off the throttle in the corners then getting back on the gas well let you steer just fine... I downloaded the Pro Rally 2001 demo but can't get it to work, so we'll see when the full game comes out, and I can't wait to see CMR 2, perhaps in time for Christmas??? Anyway hope this helps in making a decision, and again... Any feedback on Rally Masters would be welcomed! JJ Raymond, ACT LABS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> If you have a powerful machine, then Rally Championship provides > beautiful graphics. Gamplay is solid too; lots of fun. > > > Raymond > ACT LABS > www.act-labs.com > > > > On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:27:30 GMT, "Charles F. Castor Jr." > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? > > >

Jay J <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:otIO5.6107$%%[email hidden]... > > As for Rally Masters... Some of the stages are graphically VERY VERY > impressive, others are just so, so... It's like they created some stages a > year after the first ones were designed perhaps? > Kind of like Mosport in GPL. It's downright ugly compared to the other tracks. Stephen

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:27:30 GMT, "Charles F. Castor Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote: >What would be the best rally sim that supports wheel and pedals? Having rallied (real cars of course) myself I find RC2000 physics unrealistic and annoying (engine goes "off cam" too easiliy meaning too many gear changesand braking distances are way too short) CMR is better for ease of driving but feel is a little disconnected. Rally Masters - I find the closest to the real thing but i would agree with others here that there can be the odd annoying trait. Overall I probably spent most time on CMR and least time on RC2000 but CMR seems dated now - i would wait for CMR2. I'm hoping they don't just do a graphics job on it...