Re: Black or Coloured RaceCar Drivers???

Yeah Jason Watt, was all lined up for Formula 1 testing when he chrashed his motorcycle, broke his back and got stuck in a wheelchair. He's a fighter though... he resently won his first race in the danish touring car championship in a modified car, with all pedals moved to the steering wheel. And he finished second at the lastest DTC race at Zandvoort. He is now testing a LeMans car, and will be trying to qualify for this years LeMans 24 hours. I believe one of his biggest problems is the rule that a drivers must be able to evacuate the car in 5(?) seconds. The car by the way is a Panoz, and he has actually already raced it.... at N�rnburgring !!! 3 man crew driving at that race, I have no idea how they change they steering functions during pistops ??? Mikkel PS: He writes a column at http://formel1.jubii.dk/ Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (Rksanjose) writes: > > > Walter Payton. Perhaps the Greatest "American" Football Running Back in > > history. Rest In Peace. > > Wasn't he "only" a team owner ? > > And everyone has forgot Jason Watt. Now sadly paralysed, but is > starting to do some heavily modified sportscar racing. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

In article <[email hidden]>, Tim O. <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:27:06 GMT, "btgoss" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am gladthis thread > >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. > > Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on > this. Oh, no, better yet, someone call Reverend Jesse Jackson (oxymoron in there somewhere) and let him know...he'll have this newsgroup shut down for it's racial slurs... ;] Cheers! Jan Kohl The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

In article <3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]>, "skell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCardriver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driverin one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > > Narain Karthikeyan currently drives for Paul Stewart Racing team in the British Formula 3 championship, scoring 100 points in the championship. He is from India. Cheers Phil -- F1 GPL Rank: +7.52 F2 GPL Rank: +120.60 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:34:20 +0800, "skell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>G'Day Guys, >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one >of the disciplines. >Cheers Skell >

Word from Jack Roush in NASCAR.com (I think) indicates that he is working with baseball legend Hank Aaron to get a black driver into racing, possibly in his #16 car, which, so far, is unsponsored for the 2001 season. Drag racing also has a black motorcycle racer who is doing exceedingly well.. I don't follow NHRA closely enough to know how he is doing. I do know that a woman -- Angelle Seeling -- is at the top of the points on NHRA drag bikes. I recall there was a black top-fuel rail driver sponsored by singer MC Hammer as part of Hammer's successful attempt at driving himself bankrupt. The driver had a white crew and they were openly (and I believe, inappropriately) contemptuous of the driver's skills. There is also Liger Racing based in Philadelphia USA which is trying to get more black youth involved with racing on all levels. I get the impression that you do not live in the United States, which is a country in which most people (some would argue both black and white) have worked to prevent blacks and coloureds from having access to the same opportunities as those in the majority. However, if your "g'day" indicates you are down under, you can probably compare the situation here in the US with the way the abos are treated. Unlike other people in the US, I'm not particularly disturbed by the term "coloured." As I understand it, it refers to the many peoples of the world that don't fit the stereotypical caucasion/nordic appearance and includes people from the Indian subcontinent, Middle East as well as mixed-blood in south Africa. My daughter is a racer -- three years in karts and now moving to Formula Indy -- and is meeting less resistance there than I had expected. In many ways, women have had as much difficulty entering racing as other minorities. "Always more than you asked for" (a registered service mark of the Diamondcutter) Diamondcutter N3, DTR user No. 32 Swiss Hutless/Yamaha 100 kart No. 45 Howe/Chevrolet late model _____________________ Complaints? Can't hear you over these engines! ______________________

What about Wendell Scott, the great NASCAR driver. Steve ymenard wrote in message ...

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>>"skell" <[email hidden]> wrote >> My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver > > ><G> > >No there has NEVER, ever been one... in thousands and thousands of driver >this never happened all around the world. No women eaither <VBG> > > ><G> > > >-- >-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.WeRace.net >-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise >how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

On Fri 10 Nov 2000 03:34:20a, skell wrote: >G'Day Guys, >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one >of the disciplines. Excuse my rudeness, but the only reason you don't see one is because you haven't looked properly. A couple of examples: Narain Karthikeyan, an Indian (as in from India) with Jaguar this season in British Formula 3 (4th in the championship). In rallying, there have been several excellent Kenyan drivers, such as Shekhar Mehta and Patrick Njiru. In the US, there's Wendell Scott and Willy T Ribbs, and plenty of drivers in the lower formulae - David Francis Jr, Carlin Scott etc. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Walter Payton. Perhaps the Greatest "American" Football Running Back in history. Rest In Peace. Richard San Jose P.S. Go Niners!

G'Day Guys, My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one of the disciplines. Cheers Skell

Willy T Ribbs. http://www.blackathlete.com/motorsports728.htm skell wrote in message <3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]>...

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>G'Day Guys, >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one >of the disciplines. >Cheers Skell > >

>G'Day Guys, >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one >of the disciplines. >Cheers Skell Wendell Scott(African-American) actually won a Winston Cup race in 1964 at Jacksonville Speedway Park in Florida. Also, Willy T. Ribbs(African-American) drove some Indy Races and some NASCAR races and, from what I understand, will be driving in the Craftsman Truck series. There have been numerous others, too. Just not a large amount.

>"skell" <[email hidden]> wrote > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver <G> No there has NEVER, ever been one... in thousands and thousands of driver this never happened all around the world. No women eaither <VBG> <G> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Willy T. Ribbs has also driven some in the Trans Am series this year. Not sure if he ran all season or just part of it as I haven't paid much attention to Trans Am this season. TJ Patten Fuqua wrote:

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> > >G'Day Guys, > >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > >of the disciplines. > >Cheers Skell > > Wendell Scott(African-American) actually won a Winston Cup race in 1964 at > Jacksonville Speedway Park in Florida. Also, Willy T. Ribbs(African-American) > drove some Indy Races and some NASCAR races and, from what I understand, will > be driving in the Craftsman Truck series. There have been numerous others, too. > Just not a large amount.

There is also Bruce Driver a former DIRT Modified driver (who ran Flemington during it's last days of a dirt surface.) and who now drives the Pennzoil NASCAR Modified. He was also given a shot at the Craftsman Trucks this year at Richmond, but I don't think he made the show. His is one of the better financed teams running this tour, there is some sort of connection to Dale Sr. and his team. He finished 23rd. in points this year. Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this thread did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. Later, Brian btgoss "Lutrell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YmKO5.325$[email hidden]...

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> Willy T Ribbs. > http://www.blackathlete.com/motorsports728.htm > > > skell wrote in message <3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]>... > >G'Day Guys, > >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in

one > >of the disciplines. > >Cheers Skell > > > > >

Back in the mid to late 70's Willie T had a test ride setup at charlotte by humpy wheeler. Wille T passed on the ride saying it wasnt up to par and didnt ever do the test. Then an unknown driver from NC took the ride and ran his first race at charlotte in a Winston Cup car. That ride paved the way for him to go on and become a 7 time Winston Cup champion and win over 75 races (dunno the offical count). That driver was none other than Dale Earnhardt. Later Willie T did run a few races in 86' i think. never did amount to much though. I read a transcript of a interview with Bryant Gumbel and he downed the whole sport of Nascar for not giving him a quality ride. Poor excuse for a driver and used the race card a little too. -- Donny Nelms [email hidden] D_Nelms on WON Bullbag on WWW.Firetalk.com Member of International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers http://www.ibew.org Union Electricians Do "IT" Without Shorts! "Thomas JS Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Willy T. Ribbs has also driven some in the Trans Am series this year. > Not sure if he ran all season or just part of it as I haven't paid much > attention to Trans Am this season. > > TJ > > Patten Fuqua wrote: > > > > >G'Day Guys, > > >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > > >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > > >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > > >of the disciplines. > > >Cheers Skell > > > > Wendell Scott(African-American) actually won a Winston Cup race in 1964 at > > Jacksonville Speedway Park in Florida. Also, Willy T. Ribbs(African-American) > > drove some Indy Races and some NASCAR races and, from what I understand, will > > be driving in the Craftsman Truck series. There have been numerous others, too. > > Just not a large amount.

I remember seeing Bruce Driver back in the Flemington dirt days. I also recall Shauna Robinson running Flemington back in the late 80s. Interresting how they both ran the same track eh? <G> Chris

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:27:06 GMT, "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>There is also Bruce Driver a former DIRT Modified driver (who ran Flemington >during it's last days of a dirt surface.) and who now drives the Pennzoil >NASCAR Modified. He was also given a shot at the Craftsman Trucks this year >at Richmond, but I don't think he made the show. His is one of the better >financed teams running this tour, there is some sort of connection to Dale >Sr. and his team. He finished 23rd. in points this year. >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this thread >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. >

Unfortunately, if this is the same driver I am thinking of he is started to use the "race card" earlier this season since he was not alowed to compet at a track because he did not have a "Speedway" licence and thus like everyone else without one could not run. There was some controversy since someone else did run that was not "fully" qualified but I think it was because he had talked to Nascar about taking into conideration his experience elswhere at those speeds and I believe did run on the track to show them. Unfortunately "Driver"? ran back of the pack at every event he did qualify for and at one of the road courses he was black flagged a couple of time for jus' tooling around out there NOWHERE near speed. As for other "drivers of colour" Winston Cup is lite but a couple of ranks down there are those taking their shot ( I say 2-3years at most before they "discover" someone {hopefully good} at give him a ride. Other series are on the way I believe IRL had(has?) a driver, Cart has many of them there foreeners.and N-IHRA has seen a few over the years

My Dad mentioned that one day while flagging at the Glen during the early eighties he had a car spin or had a bad engine or something. The "black" driver got out of the car and came accros the rail and talked to him for a while. It was Walter Payton <sp?> the football player. skell wrote in message <3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]>...

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>G'Day Guys, >My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my >question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it >difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one >of the disciplines. >Cheers Skell > >

[email hidden] (Rksanjose) writes: > Walter Payton. Perhaps the Greatest "American" Football Running Back in > history. Rest In Peace. Wasn't he "only" a team owner ? And everyone has forgot Jason Watt. Now sadly paralysed, but is starting to do some heavily modified sportscar racing. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

"Olav K. Malmin" wrote... Re: Walter Payton... <<Wasn't he "only" a team owner?>> He did drive a few Trans-Am races. He wasn't very good and lackes finesse (he tried to drive like he was playing football), but he did drive a few races. Nick

Well Walter would have been fine if he raced Nascar and not Trans Am since he was very good at making holes on a defensive line when he started his pro football career. Dave Nicholas Totoro <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>...

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> "Olav K. Malmin" wrote... > > Re: Walter Payton... > > <<Wasn't he "only" a team owner?>> > > He did drive a few Trans-Am races. He wasn't very good and lackes > finesse (he tried to drive like he was playing football), but he did

drive a > few races. > Nick > >

May not be a race "car" driver but there is a black gentleman named Reggie Showers that runs in the NHRA Pro Bikes. What makes him amazing is that his legs were amputated when he was a kid in a electrocution accident and he never gave up and became a very good and very respected racer. There is also another black gentleman named Antron Brown that races in the NHRA Pro Bikes but I do not know much about him. "skell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]...

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> G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > >

>"Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote > What about Wendell Scott, the great NASCAR driver. > Steve <whoosh> that's the sound of air, passing over your head :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

In article <[email hidden]>, Pierre Robitaille <[email hidden]> writes:

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>EldredP wrote: >> >> I remember meeting a guy named Leavy Morgan. He drove what I would guess >to be >> a Formula 3000, or something like that(Formula 1 support race). He was >trying >> to gain sponsorship, and had his car in the middle of Northland Mall, near >> Detroit.I probably talked to him for about 20 minutes. This was probably >about >> '82 or '83. I never heard what races he was able to compete in. > >http://detnews.com/1999/motorsports/9907/02/07020196.htm >

Thank you, and thank you...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <6v2P5.76331$[email hidden]>, "Edward_C" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >> >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this >thread >> >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. >> >> Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on >> this. > >If the term coloured is in bad taste, why does the "CP" in NAACP stand for >"Coloured People" correct me if I'm wrong > >Edward >

That organization is also a few decades old... I don't see it as offensive, just archaic. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:51:46 GMT, "Edward_C" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this >thread >> >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. >> >> Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on >> this. > >If the term coloured is in bad taste, why does the "CP" in NAACP stand for >"Coloured People" correct me if I'm wrong

You're right, and I said the same thing without being pointedly obvious. :-) Tim

On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 06:19:43 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm sure you didn't mean anything rude by it, but African Americans get very >angry if they hear someone call them "colored" these days. :-) > >David G Fisher www.naacp.org - Political correctness collapses into itself. I love it. Tim

Willie T. Ribs (sp?) is the first that springs to mind......he was in CART a couple of years ago. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- skell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]... > G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > >

You're grinning so much in that post, Frank, that it's a wonder yer face hasn't split in half. Or has it? -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JAKO5.62586$[email hidden]... > >"skell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver > > > <G> > > No there has NEVER, ever been one... in thousands and thousands of driver > this never happened all around the world. No women eaither <VBG> > > > <G> > >

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>Wendell Scott(African-American) actually won a Winston Cup race in 1964 at >Jacksonville Speedway Park in Florida. Also, Willy T. Ribbs(African-American) >drove some Indy Races and some NASCAR races and, from what I understand, will >be driving in the Craftsman Truck series. There have been numerous others, >too. >Just not a large amount. >

I remember meeting a guy named Leavy Morgan. He drove what I would guess to be a Formula 3000, or something like that(Formula 1 support race). He was trying to gain sponsorship, and had his car in the middle of Northland Mall, near Detroit.I probably talked to him for about 20 minutes. This was probably about '82 or '83. I never heard what races he was able to compete in. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > > I remember meeting a guy named Leavy Morgan. He drove what I would guess to be > a Formula 3000, or something like that(Formula 1 support race). He was trying > to gain sponsorship, and had his car in the middle of Northland Mall, near > Detroit.I probably talked to him for about 20 minutes. This was probably about > '82 or '83. I never heard what races he was able to compete in. http://detnews.com/1999/motorsports/9907/02/07020196.htm

EldredP wrote: > > I remember meeting a guy named Leavy Morgan. He drove what I would guess to be > a Formula 3000, or something like that(Formula 1 support race). He was trying > to gain sponsorship, and had his car in the middle of Northland Mall, near > Detroit.I probably talked to him for about 20 minutes. This was probably about > '82 or '83. I never heard what races he was able to compete in. http://detnews.com/1999/motorsports/9907/02/07020196.htm

> > >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad thisthread > >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. > > Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on > this. If the term coloured is in bad taste, why does the "CP" in NAACP stand for "Coloured People" correct me if I'm wrong Edward

oops, sorry for the double posting. Pierre Robitaille wrote:

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> > EldredP wrote: > > > > I remember meeting a guy named Leavy Morgan. He drove what I would guess to be > > a Formula 3000, or something like that(Formula 1 support race). He was trying > > to gain sponsorship, and had his car in the middle of Northland Mall, near > > Detroit.I probably talked to him for about 20 minutes. This was probably about > > '82 or '83. I never heard what races he was able to compete in. > > http://detnews.com/1999/motorsports/9907/02/07020196.htm

I'm sure you didn't mean anything rude by it, but African Americans get very angry if they hear someone call them "colored" these days. :-) David G Fisher "skell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]...

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> G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > >

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 04:27:06 GMT, "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this thread >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on this. Tim

On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:51:46 GMT, "Edward_C" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >> >> >Of course the term "coloured" is really in poor taste. I am glad this >thread >> >did not focus on what could have been seen as obvious trolling. >> >> Maybe someone should get on the horn to the NAACP and let them in on >> this. > >If the term coloured is in bad taste, why does the "CP" in NAACP stand for >"Coloured People" correct me if I'm wrong

It stands for "Colored People", not "Coloured People" http://www.naacp.org/ It's an American organization, so it uses American spelling. ~daxe

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>On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 06:19:43 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>I'm sure you didn't mean anything rude by it, but African Americans get very >>angry if they hear someone call them "colored" these days. :-) >> >>David G Fisher > >www.naacp.org - Political correctness collapses into itself. >I love it. >

"African Americans" might care what you call them. Blacks probably don't give a shit. Just like my Native American girlfriend doesn't care if you call her an Indian. In most cases, people only get offended by things like this if they want to be. DG

There's the rally driver from Kenya, Shakar Mehta. Oh, and then there is me ;) My dad is from Kenya and my mom is white and from here, so I guess I am "colored". I want affirmitive action! Give me a damn go-kart so I don't have to spend $1,400 of my own saved money for 2 years in the spring for something used! ;) Anyways, there aren't many, I just hope when I start to kart I don't get any dirty looks or get stared at. It probably won't happen. My dad does SCCA Solo I events and does fine. Thanks, Alex skell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]...

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> G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > >

Off the top of my head, I can name three: Wendell Scott raced in NASCAR during the 60s and early 70s Willie T. Ribbs raced sportscars(?) and had a brief stint in CART/Indycars in the 80s and early 90s Walter Payton raced sportscars after he retired from football. It was his love of racing that got him into CART team ownership (Payton-Coyne Racing) There may be more, but those three are probably the best known. Theron Houston skell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a0b6d5b$0$[email hidden]...

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> G'Day Guys, > My Question is has there ever been a black or Coloured raceCar driver,my > question is not racially motivated,pure interest in racing,i find it > difficult in todays world that we do not see a black racecar driver in one > of the disciplines. > Cheers Skell > > >

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>Off the top of my head, I can name three: > >Wendell Scott raced in NASCAR during the 60s and early 70s >Willie T. Ribbs raced sportscars(?) and had a brief stint in CART/Indycars >in the 80s and early 90s >Walter Payton raced sportscars after he retired from football. It was his >love of racing that got him into CART team ownership (Payton-Coyne Racing)

Ribbs is still racing, now in Trans-Am, and doing fairly well. He may have had a shadow following him for a while, though, having killed a course worker at the Vancvouver Indy. SL

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 03:55:58 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >Ribbs is still racing, now in Trans-Am, and doing fairly well. I believe Ribbs was just tagged to run in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. ~daxe

He's going to run Bobby Hamiltons truck next year. Have'nt seen the word "coloured" in ages, must be a bloke!! lol JJ daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 03:55:58 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > > >Ribbs is still racing, now in Trans-Am, and doing fairly well. > > I believe Ribbs was just tagged to run in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck > Series. > > ~daxe

If I remember correctly, the Domingo brothers, Mike and Joe, raced F5000 in the South African national championship in the early 70s as "Team Domingo". They were "coloured" under the apartheid laws. Multi-racial sport would have been illegal at that time, so actually the race authorities were taking a bit of a chance... but I don't think anyone ever complained. So actually this is a rare example of multi-racial sport in SA, under the apartheid regime. I did hear a story that one of the white drivers objected to the Domingos using the whites-only public toilets in the pits - which would also have been against the law. But since those were the only toilets available, he was told by the organisers not to be so silly. Strange times.