GPL, V5, glide vs d3d

I installed a V5 5500 last weak but contrary to most posts on the subject I get much better fps in d3d than glide in GPL which was not the case with the V32000 that I replaced. I can run 2xAA@ 1024x768 with a pretty constant 36 fps in d3d but in glide I have to set resolution at 640x480 to get similar results. I expected glide to outperform d3d and wonder if I might have a system config problem. Any help would be appreciated. DN System info: Win 98 DX 7a Voodoo 5 5500 pci Beta6 drivers from Voodoo Source installed. -all previous 3dfx/glide references removed PIII 600E @ 800 256 MB RAM SB Live

What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting is NOT as fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not work in 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQL version has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had the chance to update with them yet. good luck dave henrie

I was comparing glide vs d3d using 2xfsaa. It works in both but I'm perplexed as to why the d3d performance is better than glide on my machine while almost all others report the opposite. Current drivers are 4.12.01.0636(beta) dated 10/1/00. DN Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:X0lP5.13431$[email hidden]... > What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting isNOT > as > fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not workin > 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQLversion > has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had the > chance to update with them yet. > good luck > dave henrie > >

no David, nothing wrong on ur end, same here with 2X FSAA, can't use Glide online, FPS drops too much, try the new WHQL drivers for DX8 btw :) Eric David Noe wrote:

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> I was comparing glide vs d3d using 2xfsaa. It works in both but I'm > perplexed as to why the d3d performance is better than glide on my machine > while almost all others report the opposite. Current drivers are > 4.12.01.0636(beta) dated 10/1/00. > > DN > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:X0lP5.13431$[email hidden]... > > What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting is > NOT > > as > > fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not work > in > > 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQL > version > > has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had the > > chance to update with them yet. > > good luck > > dave henrie > > > >

Strange... I have the same thing enabling FSAA on the Geforce 2. Offline I can do it without a performance hit, online fps drops below 20... Must be a weird thing in GPL. Bart Westra "Eric Cote" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> no David, nothing wrong on ur end, same here with 2X FSAA, can't use Glide > online, FPS drops too much, try the new WHQL drivers for DX8 btw :) > > Eric > > David Noe wrote: > > > I was comparing glide vs d3d using 2xfsaa. It works in both but I'm > > perplexed as to why the d3d performance is better than glide on my

machine > > while almost all others report the opposite. Current drivers are > > 4.12.01.0636(beta) dated 10/1/00.

Dave, all, I just installed the 1.04 drivers and it allowed me to bump up from 2x FSAA to 4x and under Glide still retain the frame rates I was getting (at the back of a full grid @ Monza w. everything ON) before. Very nice...and significantly better than what I could achieve under D3D. There's a good V5 tweak-up guide here: http://www.voodoosource.net/vsnet/guide/tweaks.html --Steve Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:X0lP5.13431$[email hidden]... > What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting isNOT > as > fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not workin > 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQLversion > has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had the > chance to update with them yet. > good luck > dave henrie > >

Thanks to all for your input. I'll try the 1.04 drivers and DX8 as well. DN Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oYyP5.189956$[email hidden]... > Dave, all, > > I just installed the 1.04 drivers and it allowed me to bump up from 2xFSAA

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> to 4x and under Glide still retain the frame rates I was getting (at the > back of a full grid @ Monza w. everything ON) before. Very nice...and > significantly better than what I could achieve under D3D. > > There's a good V5 tweak-up guide here: > > http://www.voodoosource.net/vsnet/guide/tweaks.html > > --Steve > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:X0lP5.13431$[email hidden]... > > What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting is > NOT > > as > > fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not

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> in > > 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQL > version > > has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had the > > chance to update with them yet. > > good luck > > dave henrie > > > > > >

Just to follow up, I installed new 1.04 drivers and DX8 but recieved no gain in glide performance. Hmmm<scratching head> DN David Noe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rDzP5.316$[email hidden]...

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> Thanks to all for your input. I'll try the 1.04 drivers and DX8 as well. > > DN > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oYyP5.189956$[email hidden]... > > Dave, all, > > > > I just installed the 1.04 drivers and it allowed me to bump up from 2x > FSAA > > to 4x and under Glide still retain the frame rates I was getting (at the > > back of a full grid @ Monza w. everything ON) before. Very nice...and > > significantly better than what I could achieve under D3D. > > > > There's a good V5 tweak-up guide here: > > > > http://www.voodoosource.net/vsnet/guide/tweaks.html > > > > --Steve > > > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:X0lP5.13431$[email hidden]... > > > What chip setting are you using? The 'fastest perfoming' setting

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> > NOT > > > as > > > fast as single chip or often 2xfsaa. The original drivers would not > work > > in > > > 2xfsaa in a race with gpl. But the newer ones do. The latest WHQL > > version > > > has just been released, 1.04. I have dloaded them but haven't had

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> > > chance to update with them yet. > > > good luck > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > >

Those are whql drivers...(which stress stability over speed) you WON'T see much gain UNLESS your system was poorly configured before the new drivers. There have been several rumours that 3dfx has hired a drivers guru who should have drivers out in one or two more version updates that will noticeably increase fps. We'll see. dave henrie "David Noe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t8EP5.329$[email hidden]... > Just to follow up, I installed new 1.04 drivers and DX8 but recieved nogain > in glide performance. Hmmm<scratching head> >