Re: TD-LeMans - I was wrong. It IS nice !!

At what difficulty are you playing? Me, I've flipped a car. I've also spun out of control on several occasions. Once when I was in 1st place on the final lap. I got into a situation with two cars trying to pass me and I was too aggressive in a turn that caused me to spin 360 degrees into the grass. I'm playing the game at the intermediate level. I found that the easy level was too easy for me. Man this game is smooth and the control is right on. When I was playing on the easy setting I did not spin of flip. Flipping is rare but I have flipped and I've seen several CPU cars flip during a race. I've also seen CPU cars spin out of control. Take it easy, Larry http://www.tiptonium.com "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > old guy, so YMMV. > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > turn -off- the crap music. > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at all. > > Bottom Line: > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racing fan, > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > Yum, crow. > > :) >

I haven't flipped in Intermediate, but I have spun in easy. What I haven't been able to do is totally destroy a tire -- you can get it to where the tires are flashing red, but I haven't had one actually blow out, so I guess it may be impossible. In article <8ujt21$u68$[email hidden]>, "Larry Tipton" <[email hidden]> wrote: > At what difficulty are you playing? Me, I've flipped a car. I've alsospun > out of control on several occasions. Once when I was in 1st place onthe > final lap. I got into a situation with two cars trying to pass me andI was > too aggressive in a turn that caused me to spin 360 degrees into thegrass. > I'm playing the game at the intermediate level. I found that the easylevel > was too easy for me. Man this game is smooth and the control isright on. > When I was playing on the easy setting I did not spin of flip.Flipping is > rare but I have flipped and I've seen several CPU cars flip during arace.

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> I've also seen CPU cars spin out of control. > > Take it easy, > Larry > > http://www.tiptonium.com > > "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD:

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> > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics

modeling > > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'man

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> > old guy, so YMMV. > > > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > > turn -off- the crap music. > > > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I

was > > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not roboticat all. > > > > Bottom Line: > > > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're aracing fan,

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> > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > > > Yum, crow. > > > > :) > > > >

-- Chris Charla Imagine Media www.dailyradar.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

>Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just >not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers >and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you >turn -off- the crap music. Agreed, the music, is pretty bad. I also noticed that all the cars seem to have their own engine sounds, but are the sounds accurate?? They just don't seem quite "right" to me. I haven't been to see the actual cars enough though, to know for sure. Have you noticed the contrails that come off the rear wings of the cars at high speed?? Gorgeous!

>Please go away. YOU go away, this isn't a pc only newsgroup.

>Crow tastes like.... chicken. > > Yeah, but what does chicken actually taste like??

Great! Now if you could just learn about crossposting into sega, sony and nintendo groups. Schmev "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > old guy, so YMMV. > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > turn -off- the crap music. > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at all. > > Bottom Line: > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racing fan, > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > Yum, crow. > > :) >

Please go away. "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > old guy, so YMMV. > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > turn -off- the crap music. > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at all. > > Bottom Line: > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racing fan, > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > Yum, crow. > > :) >

It was a good review. So whats your problem? -byron "Terry Connors" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1leP5.569$[email hidden]...

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> Please go away. > > > "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > > old guy, so YMMV. > > > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > > turn -off- the crap music. > > > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at

all. > > > > Bottom Line: > > > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racingfan,

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> > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > > > Yum, crow. > > > > :) > > > >

"Byron Miller" <byronm(removeme)@epix.net> wrote in message news:1_eP5.442$[email hidden]... > It was a good review. So whats your problem? > > -byron His panties are too tight.

WTF are you talking about? Its a good review thats not crossposted into any other consoles group, chill out. "Terry Connors" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1leP5.569$[email hidden]...

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> Please go away. > > > "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > > There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > > > I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > > I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > > the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > > the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > > I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > > > Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > > are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > > is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > > No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > > feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > > That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > > was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > > is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > > dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > > fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > > old guy, so YMMV. > > > > Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > > not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > > and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > > turn -off- the crap music. > > > > It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > > in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > > having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > > things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at

all. > > > > Bottom Line: > > > > This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > > And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racingfan,

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> > and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > > > Yum, crow. > > > > :) > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes:

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>What I want to know is - who has tried this for the PC? Is it just as good or >better? Maybe you can actually use your wheel - chances are they made the >wheel >useless on the DC because 95% of the people don't own a wheel, so it would >only >be logical to have a game(that's what they shoot for on the DC) not so >difficult for the average user to play. PC sims, on the other hand, are made >with the sim addict in mind - I'm thinking it may be better. Or, if some old >Playstation converts have taught me, it may be considerably worse.

I tried the demo on my PC, and couldn't even get the <expletive> to run. Too bad - I was really looking forward to that one... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I have it on PC, but I use my good ol' Gravis Gamepad for it. Eye candy's pretty good, but when I can take the Cirtek team's old Ford Mustang GT2 and win EVERY race in the season, I question the realism. The game has more grip than SCGT, which means it has quite a lot. Rarely did I have to brake anywhere... Le Mans was pretty good, but down Mulsanne, it began to hang up a bit...but I thought it was pretty good for an arcadish game...never tried the garage, so I can't comment on that... But flying down the Mulsanne Straight in the 1999 Audi R8R was a blast! Sundown

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (PHendrix27) writes: >>Crow tastes like.... chicken. >> >> > >Yeah, but what does chicken actually taste like?? > Ask the...Matrix...... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +49.12 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>>>Crow tastes like.... chicken. >>> >>> >> >>Yeah, but what does chicken actually taste like?? >> > >Ask the...Matrix......

hehehehe

>Hey, how about that rush of speed on the Mulsanne straight? >In my opinion, it is the best and most realistic representation >of speed ever done in ANY game or sim. Yep, I agree again. I get sweaty palms running with a group of cars on those straights. This bad boy is going to keep me really busy for some time. Hell, I still havent even tried a long race yet. Been too busy running the quick races, and Time Trials, trying to open cars and tracks. Any sim racing fan with access to a Dreamcast should check this one out!!

What I want to know is - who has tried this for the PC? Is it just as good or better? Maybe you can actually use your wheel - chances are they made the wheel useless on the DC because 95% of the people don't own a wheel, so it would only be logical to have a game(that's what they shoot for on the DC) not so difficult for the average user to play. PC sims, on the other hand, are made with the sim addict in mind - I'm thinking it may be better. Or, if some old Playstation converts have taught me, it may be considerably worse.

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>Subject: TD-LeMans - I was wrong. It IS nice !! >From: rrevved [email hidden] >Date: 11/11/2000 10:12 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. >There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > >I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and >I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with >the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around >the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, >I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > >Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays >are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem >is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. >No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of >feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. >That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling >was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer >is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I >dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just >fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an >old guy, so YMMV. > >Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just >not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers >and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you >turn -off- the crap music. > >It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies >in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was >having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where >things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at all. > >Bottom Line: > >This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. >And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racing fan, >and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > >Yum, crow. > >:) >

I must be missing something....this game got uninstalled from my compy faster than you can say "Spirit of Speed"... Colin Tim 'Sundown' Traylor <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I have it on PC, but I use my good ol' Gravis Gamepad for it. Eye > candy's pretty good, but when I can take the Cirtek team's old Ford > Mustang GT2 and win EVERY race in the season, I question the realism. > The game has more grip than SCGT, which means it has quite a lot. Rarely > did I have to brake anywhere... > > Le Mans was pretty good, but down Mulsanne, it began to hang up a > bit...but I thought it was pretty good for an arcadish game...never > tried the garage, so I can't comment on that... > > But flying down the Mulsanne Straight in the 1999 Audi R8R was a blast! > > Sundown

the pc versions is completely different from the DC one. Thats the main difference hehe ... melbourne house of gp500 fame did the DC version and its supposed to be quite tasty shane Colin Harris <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5zGP5.1594$[email hidden]...

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> I must be missing something....this game got uninstalled from my compy > faster than you can say "Spirit of Speed"... > > > Colin > > > Tim 'Sundown' Traylor <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have it on PC, but I use my good ol' Gravis Gamepad for it. Eye > > candy's pretty good, but when I can take the Cirtek team's old Ford > > Mustang GT2 and win EVERY race in the season, I question the realism. > > The game has more grip than SCGT, which means it has quite a lot. Rarely > > did I have to brake anywhere... > > > > Le Mans was pretty good, but down Mulsanne, it began to hang up a > > bit...but I thought it was pretty good for an arcadish game...never > > tried the garage, so I can't comment on that... > > > > But flying down the Mulsanne Straight in the 1999 Audi R8R was a blast! > > > > Sundown > >

TDLM was re-worked by Melbourne House for the DC port. Blows away the PC version. Suprisingly good game. Would not have bought it if not forr rrevved rravve rrevview ;-). -- Joe Marques "Patten Fuqua" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What I want to know is - who has tried this for the PC? Is it just as good or > better? Maybe you can actually use your wheel - chances are they made the wheel > useless on the DC because 95% of the people don't own a wheel, so it would only > be logical to have a game(that's what they shoot for on the DC) not so > difficult for the average user to play. PC sims, on the other hand, are made > with the sim addict in mind - I'm thinking it may be better. Or, if some old > Playstation converts have taught me, it may be considerably worse. > > > >Subject: TD-LeMans - I was wrong. It IS nice !! > >From: rrevved [email hidden] > >Date: 11/11/2000 10:12 AM Central Standard Time > >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > > > >Errr... I may have been a little hasty in my criticism of TD: LeMans. > >There is a ton of fun in this title, and I may have been too harsh. > > > >I just finished a 1 hour real-time (24-hour game time) race and > >I had a blast. True there is some jagginess, particularly with > >the painted lines on the track, and the armco fencing around > >the track, but since there is so much other gorgeous-ness, > >I think I can let the developers off the hook.. :) > > > >Man, the night racing in this thing is incredible. The replays > >are beyond incredible. As to the driving model, the problem > >is the old 'when you hit something you stop real quick'. > >No flipping through the air, or skidding for hundreds of > >feet along the fence, your car just loses momentum and you stop. > >That's not accurate, but I have to ask myself if the physics modeling > >was a lot deeper could it be enjoyed with a gamepad, and the answer > >is probably no. Why they chose to render my wheel useless, I > >dunno either, but with the Dreamcast analog pad it works just > >fine, and sometimes it's nice to kick back and relax, but hey, I'm an > >old guy, so YMMV. > > > >Someone mentioned that all the cars sound the same. That's just > >not true. There is a huge difference in the sound of the Vipers > >and the Ferrari for example.. It sounds -real- good, once you > >turn -off- the crap music. > > > >It looks good, is highly detailed, except for the annoying jaggies > >in places, and it is big fun to race. As to the AI, the problem I was > >having was mostly associated with the first couple of turns where > >things were hectic. As the field thins out, the AI is not robotic at all. > > > >Bottom Line: > > > >This thing runs DEAD smooth with 20+ *high-poly* cars on the screen. > >And it is beautiful, overall. That ain't bad, and if you're a racing fan, > >and own a Dreamcast, maybe you ought to go spend $29.99 and buy it. > > > >Yum, crow. > > > >:) > > > > >