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Re: Tyres In GP3

8 posts by 5 people · 16 Nov 2000 - 17 Nov 2000 12:24 UTC

"Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9FHQ5.35$[email hidden]... > > What tyres to choose in GP3 and when? What's the differencebetween Soft > > Drys and Hard Drys or Soft Wets and Hard Wets and how does itaffect > > driving? > > When I drive on a dry track I haven't noticed too much differencein > > performance when I use soft or dry compound. It's similar withSoft and > Hard > > Wets on a wet track. > > When Intermediate tyres should be used? > > Will someone enlighten me? > > The difference in tyres seems pretty dramatic to me. If you'redoing a > 3-stop strategy in dry weather, then soft dries will give the bestgrip. If > you're doing a 1-stop strategy then soft-dries would be knackered bythe > time the pit stop came around, so hard dries are the only option.With a > 2-stop strategy, the choice is more difficult - some tracks areharder on > tyres than others and if your running with stiff springs, the tyreswear out > more quickly. My guess is that tracks with heavy brakingrequirements such > as Hockenheim would be hardest on tyres. > > In the wet, if the sky is white with rain and the track iscompletely > covered in deep water, then monsoon tyres work best. If the trackis > slightly damp with light rain, then intermediates work best. Softwets work > best in heavy rain (but not ultra heavy i.e. Monsoon) Hard wetsmight be > useful if the track is just a bit too wet for intermediates. > > It takes quite a bit of experience to know what tyre works best andwhen. > That's a big part of GP3 - experimenting with tyres and racepit-stop > strategies. It really adds to the excitement and unpredictability! > > Andrew I found the grip levels to change suddenly in Gp3. I was on soft dries for ages when it was just a bit wet, and I was lapping OK. Then, all of a sudden, it got a little bit wetter and I could hardly accelerate at all without wheel spinning!! It seemed as if the wetness level had passed a point where the program says "no fool is going to use dries now..." :-) Scott
Damien Smith 16 Nov 2000 01:30 UTC#221052
> What tyres to choose in GP3 and when? What's the difference between Soft > Drys and Hard Drys or Soft Wets and Hard Wets and how does it affect > driving? > When I drive on a dry track I haven't noticed too much difference in > performance when I use soft or dry compound. It's similar with Soft andHard > Wets on a wet track. > When Intermediate tyres should be used? > Will someone enlighten me? The difference in tyres seems pretty dramatic to me. If you're doing a 3-stop strategy in dry weather, then soft dries will give the best grip. If you're doing a 1-stop strategy then soft-dries would be knackered by the time the pit stop came around, so hard dries are the only option. With a 2-stop strategy, the choice is more difficult - some tracks are harder on tyres than others and if your running with stiff springs, the tyres wear out more quickly. My guess is that tracks with heavy braking requirements such as Hockenheim would be hardest on tyres. In the wet, if the sky is white with rain and the track is completely covered in deep water, then monsoon tyres work best. If the track is slightly damp with light rain, then intermediates work best. Soft wets work best in heavy rain (but not ultra heavy i.e. Monsoon) Hard wets might be useful if the track is just a bit too wet for intermediates. It takes quite a bit of experience to know what tyre works best and when. That's a big part of GP3 - experimenting with tyres and race pit-stop strategies. It really adds to the excitement and unpredictability! Andrew
Vedran Dracic 16 Nov 2000 01:53 UTC#221017
What tyres to choose in GP3 and when? What's the difference between Soft Drys and Hard Drys or Soft Wets and Hard Wets and how does it affect driving? When I drive on a dry track I haven't noticed too much difference in performance when I use soft or dry compound. It's similar with Soft and Hard Wets on a wet track. When Intermediate tyres should be used? Will someone enlighten me?
Scott Boham wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > I found the grip levels to change suddenly in Gp3. I was on soft > dries for ages when it was just a bit wet, and I was lapping OK. > Then, all of a sudden, it got a little bit wetter and I could hardly > accelerate at all without wheel spinning!! It seemed as if the > wetness level had passed a point where the program says "no fool is > going to use dries now..." :-) > > Scott
Actually, that's the way it should be. The difference in loss of grip is pretty sudden, depending whether the track is merely wet, or there is some standing water on it. In the latter case, aquaplanning takes place if the tires are unable to remove the water, and the grip is virtually nonexistant then.
GraDee 16 Nov 2000 19:00 UTC#220881
For drys hard tyre last longer and give a little bit less grip, not too much but you'll notice a slight drop in times compared to soft. Hard wets are for lighter rain than soft. Intermediates are for when there is dry and wet patches on track. Vedran Dracic <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8uvemr$bdk3$[email hidden]... > > What tyres to choose in GP3 and when? What's the difference between Soft > Drys and Hard Drys or Soft Wets and Hard Wets and how does it affect > driving? > When I drive on a dry track I haven't noticed too much difference in > performance when I use soft or dry compound. It's similar with Soft andHard > Wets on a wet track. > When Intermediate tyres should be used? > Will someone enlighten me? > > >
> Does this should apply to the qualifying as well? Does this mean that soft > drys should be used in order to have better lap times? > The bad thing is that when you choose the tyres for qualifying, you mustuse > the same type of tyres for the race, but I guess that's the case inreality > too, is it? The tyres available for the race are determined by what you first use in practice. i.e. if you practice with hard dries, then only those will be available for the rest of the race weekend. Qualifying tyres are a different kettle of fish - they're the same no matter what you use in practice. You shouldn't be using soft or hard dries for qualifying - you should use the tyres marked q1,q2,q3 etc. Though, it's possible in wet conditions that you could use monsoon, soft wets or intermediates for qualifying depending upon the conditions.
"Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9FHQ5.35$[email hidden]... > > The difference in tyres seems pretty dramatic to me. If you're > doing a 3-stop strategy in dry weather, then soft dries will give > the best grip. If you're doing a 1-stop strategy then soft-dries > would be knackered by the time the pit stop came around, so > hard dries are the only option. Does this should apply to the qualifying as well? Does this mean that soft drys should be used in order to have better lap times? The bad thing is that when you choose the tyres for qualifying, you must use the same type of tyres for the race, but I guess that's the case in reality too, is it?
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AnZQ5.17$%[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > The tyres available for the race are determined by what you > first use in practice. i.e. if you practice with hard dries, then > only those will be available for the rest of the race weekend. > Qualifying tyres are a different kettle of fish - they're the > same no matter what you use in practice. You shouldn't be > using soft or hard dries for qualifying - you should use the > tyres marked q1,q2,q3 etc. Though, it's possible in wet > conditions that you could use monsoon, soft wets or > intermediates for qualifying depending upon the conditions.
Are you sure? During both free practices you can choose both dry compounds, hard and soft - you have 3 sets apiece. And you can alternate between them fpr the whole duration of free practices. And they're marked only by the number of laps they were used. I think q1, q2, q3 only represent the tyre sets you can use in qualifying and practice sessions. But you have to choose between hards and wets before you drive your first lap. If you don't, soft drys are chosen by default. So, q1, q2 and q3 are either soft or hard drys, depending on which one you have chosen before your first lap. And then you have to use the same tyre compound for the race (the same is for the warm-up). Before the race starts, you can see on Last Minute Changes screen that the other compound becomes unavailable. If you used hard drys for the qualifying, then soft drys are unavailable for the race and vice versa.

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