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In message <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes >The reason some people don't know for sure >if they are going to Heaven when they die >is because they just don't know.You haven't said how you know your God is right as opposed to Allah or Yahweh, or any other idea of god for that matter. You either have a hot line to heaven or you don't. -- Clive.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Beware Of Cults http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm You don't even know you're in a cult, do you? Is that you Charles?

God=Yahweh. Allah is not a god. "Clive Coleman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In message <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] writes >>The reason some people don't know for sure >>if they are going to Heaven when they die >>is because they just don't know. > You haven't said how you know your God is right as opposed to Allah or > Yahweh, or any other idea of god for that matter. You either have a hot > line to heaven or you don't. > -- > Clive.

In message <[email hidden]>, JTS <[email hidden]> writes >God=Yahweh. Allah is not a god.According to the Koran he is. -- Clive.

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Gary L. Burnore ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : > The REAL god wouldn't spam or shove his opinion on anyone. Not since he lost his posting account after the last time, anyway.

Salv� JTS <[email hidden]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[email hidden]... > God=Yahweh. Allah is not a god. <Sorry matey but you are wrong. God is the anglo-saxon generic word for deity, it isnt actually a personal name, Allah is the arabic generic word for deity, it was and still is used by Arab Christians when talking about God, they have been using this word for rather longer than the muslims who also use it, JHWH was the name jews gave their god, He on the other hand called Himself when speaking with Moses "I Am That I Am" this is Gods own personal name< end of lecture mode....... Beowulf

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:56:44 +0200, "Beowulf" <[email hidden]> wrote: ><Sorry matey but you are wrong. God is the anglo-saxon generic word for >deity, it isnt actually a personal name, Allah is the arabic generic word >for deity, it was and still is used by Arab Christians when talking about >God, they have been using this word for rather longer than the muslims who >also use it. Bzzzt. Wrong answer. Allah, or Al'lah as spelled in the recent past, is a contraction of the pagan deity's name "Alilah". The symbol of this "god" is the crescent moon. Ringing any bells yet? If not, take a look at many flags in Muslim countries. Thus endeth the lecture. ------------------------------------------------ The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes >Allah, or Al'lah as spelled in the recent past, is a contraction of the >pagan deity's name "Alilah". The symbol of this "god" is the crescent >moon. Ringing any bells yet? If not, take a look at many flags in >Muslim countries. > >Thus endeth the lecture.I'm afraid you've made a mistake somewhere according to my Koran (Qur an), Allah and God are interchangeable. ISBN 0-14-044542-0 -- Clive.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:08:04 +0100, Clive Coleman <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher ><ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes >>Allah, or Al'lah as spelled in the recent past, is a contraction of the >>pagan deity's name "Alilah". The symbol of this "god" is the crescent >>moon. Ringing any bells yet? If not, take a look at many flags in >>Muslim countries. >> >>Thus endeth the lecture. >I'm afraid you've made a mistake somewhere according to my Koran (Qur >an), Allah and God are interchangeable. ISBN 0-14-044542-0

Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or leave it. ------------------------------------------------ The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes

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>>>Thus endeth the lecture. >>I'm afraid you've made a mistake somewhere according to my Koran (Qur >>an), Allah and God are interchangeable. ISBN 0-14-044542-0 > >Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or >leave it. >

I'll leave it thank you, you've only got someone's idea's and don't actually know what you're talking about. You really should know more before you attempt to proselytize. -- Clive.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:32:53 +0100, Clive Coleman <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or >>leave it. >> >I'll leave it thank you, you've only got someone's idea's and don't >actually know what you're talking about. You moron. You haven't a clue what YOU know, let alone what someone else does or doesn't. >You really should know more before you attempt to proselytize. I never tried to proselytize anyone. I only pointed out what the roots are of the Muslim word. Perhaps YOU should know more before you throw out words whose definition you are quite ignorant of. Game...set...match...plonk. ------------------------------------------------ The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:49:22 +0100, "Tim S Kemp" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah That about sums it up nicely. ------------------------------------------------ The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes

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>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:32:53 +0100, Clive Coleman ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>>Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or >>>leave it. >>> >>I'll leave it thank you, you've only got someone's idea's and don't >>actually know what you're talking about. > >You moron. You haven't a clue what YOU know, let alone what someone >else does or doesn't. > >>You really should know more before you attempt to proselytize. > >I never tried to proselytize anyone. I only pointed out what the >roots are of the Muslim word. > >Perhaps YOU should know more before you throw out words whose >definition you are quite ignorant of. > >Game...set...match...plonk. > > >------------------------------------------------ >The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

I've read the bible, I'm guessing that you have, I've also read the Koran, your ignorance tells me you haven't. I suppose you're just a troll. -- Clive.

In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher <ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah > >That about sums it up nicely.That Allah means God. The call to the faithful starts with God is great. -- Clive.

Eric Dreher wrote the following on 4/15/2005 6:55 PM:

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> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:32:53 +0100, Clive Coleman > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>>Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or >>>leave it. >>> >> >>I'll leave it thank you, you've only got someone's idea's and don't >>actually know what you're talking about. > > > You moron. You haven't a clue what YOU know, let alone what someone > else does or doesn't. > > >>You really should know more before you attempt to proselytize. > > > I never tried to proselytize anyone. I only pointed out what the > roots are of the Muslim word. > > Perhaps YOU should know more before you throw out words whose > definition you are quite ignorant of. > > Game...set...match...plonk. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The DNC - Building a bridge to the 20th Century.

Game...set..match...dickweed.

Gary L. Burnore wrote the following on 4/14/2005 8:21 PM:

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> On 13 Apr 2005 19:36:17 -0700, [email hidden] wrote: > > >>The Greatest News Ever! >>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/864150e0cba72eb7/3727c3e80f7f061d#3727c3e80f7f061d >> >>�._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.��._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.���`���._._.� >> >> > > > The REAL god wouldn't spam or shove his opinion on anyone.

You KNOW Dreher would be in here pontificating on this topic because he can't think for himself, but weakly chooses to let centuries-old sick and deluded dogma speak for him.

In message <RaZ7e.1195$[email hidden]>, Z <[email hidden]> writes >Game...set..match...dickweed.Would that be to God, or you? -- Clive.

Clive Coleman wrote the following on 4/15/2005 9:27 PM: > In message <RaZ7e.1195$[email hidden]>, Z <[email hidden]> > writes > >> Game...set..match...dickweed. > > Would that be to God, or you? Definitely not to your "God"...you?

In message <Ka_7e.1233$[email hidden]>, Z <[email hidden]> writes >>> Game...set..match...dickweed. >> Would that be to God, or you? > >Definitely not to your "God"...you?You are a good Christian aren't you? By the way, what do you think of Joe Green's Requiem? -- Clive.

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>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:32:53 +0100, Clive Coleman ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>>Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or >>>leave it. >>> >>I'll leave it thank you, you've only got someone's idea's and don't >>actually know what you're talking about. > >You moron. You haven't a clue what YOU know, let alone what someone >else does or doesn't. > >>You really should know more before you attempt to proselytize. > >I never tried to proselytize anyone. I only pointed out what the >roots are of the Muslim word. > >Perhaps YOU should know more before you throw out words whose >definition you are quite ignorant of. > >Game...set...match...plonk.

Ha. The chickenshit declares victory, then runs and hides, just like he always does. What an asshole.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:55:03 -0700, Eric Dreher wrote: That's actually a rather cool name for a simracer. ;-) Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Clive Coleman wrote the following on 4/15/2005 10:32 PM: > > You are a good Christian aren't you? By the way, what do you think of > Joe Green's Requiem? Why do you ask? Uhh, Joey's piece of work was effective in providing the countless masses unable or unwiling to think for themselves with more inspiration to cling to their hateful, non-reasoned fairy tales, myths, and dogma-drivel, while supporting the welfare state of tax-exempt church land holdings. Say, what do you think of Johnny Lennon's Imagine?

In message <hB68e.1757$[email hidden]>, Z <[email hidden]> writes >Say, what do you think of Johnny Lennon's Imagine?I like it, I'm a great fan of all things Lennon/McCartney. They are from my era, back in the sixties I had all their L.P.s. -- Clive.

There is no heaven. There is no hell. Religion, in all its forms, is simply a crutch which mankind, since the dawn of time, has used to explain the inexplicable and to cover the fact that mortality is something which he cannot accept. When we die, we cease to exist. There is no afterlife. There is no "beyond". There is no reincarnation. There is nothing. The filament in the light bulb has burnt out. Yet mankind will continue to wage wars in the name of religion and in defence and support of "god". Sometimes I wonder what freak of creation entitled us to an existence in the first place. Bruce.

>Sometimes I wonder what freak of creation entitled us to an existence inthe first place.< Remember the dinosaurs lasted millions of years. We are intelligent and will be able to destroy our habitat in a much shorter period of time. I often wonder what's next?

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> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:08:04 +0100, Clive Coleman > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In message <[email hidden]>, Eric Dreher > ><ericd@cox.?.invalid> writes > >>Allah, or Al'lah as spelled in the recent past, is a contraction of the > >>pagan deity's name "Alilah". The symbol of this "god" is the crescent > >>moon. Ringing any bells yet? If not, take a look at many flags in > >>Muslim countries. > >> > >>Thus endeth the lecture. > >I'm afraid you've made a mistake somewhere according to my Koran (Qur > >an), Allah and God are interchangeable. ISBN 0-14-044542-0 > > Hey, don't argue with me. I didn't write Muslim history. Take it or > leave it.

I'll leave it, the arab language existed for quite a while before the muslims hijacked it, the word Allah is their generic word for god and christians used it from day 1 as did arabic speaking jews! Beowulf

salv� Jon Miller <[email hidden]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[email hidden]... > >Sometimes I wonder what freak of creation entitled us to an existence in > the first place.< > Remember the dinosaurs lasted millions of years. We are intelligentand > will be able to destroy our habitat in a much shorter period of time. I > often wonder what's next? >Spiders apparently....... 8P Beowulf

Wasn't it cockroaches? Apparently they can live through extremely high levels of radiation and toxic pollution......except for a decent dose of insecticide, of course! :) Bruce. "Beowulf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yJC8e.46745$[email hidden]...

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> salv� > Jon Miller <[email hidden]> skrev i > diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[email hidden]... > > Remember the dinosaurs lasted millions of years. We are intelligent > and > > will be able to destroy our habitat in a much shorter period of time. I > > often wonder what's next? > > > Spiders apparently....... > 8P > Beowulf > >

Only God knows the answer to the question that makes you wonder, I suppose mike hunt Bruce Kennewell wrote:

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> > There is no heaven. > There is no hell. > Religion, in all its forms, is simply a crutch which mankind, since the dawn > of time, has used to explain the inexplicable and to cover the fact that > mortality is something which he cannot accept. > > When we die, we cease to exist. > There is no afterlife. > There is no "beyond". > There is no reincarnation. > There is nothing. > The filament in the light bulb has burnt out. > > Yet mankind will continue to wage wars in the name of religion and in > defence and support of "god". > > Sometimes I wonder what freak of creation entitled us to an existence in the > first place. > > Bruce.

In article <42630f36$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > >Wasn't it cockroaches? >Apparently they can live through extremely high levels of radiation and >toxic pollution......except for a decent dose of insecticide, of course! :) Invertibrate animals, including insects, were around long before the dinosaurs, during the time of the dinosaurs, and now. They are far more numerous than us...one might say that now is their time already. -Tim

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> > >On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:49:22 +0100, "Tim S Kemp" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah > >That about sums it up nicely.

Sure does. Completely refuted your argument, of course. -Tim

salv� Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:42630f36$[email hidden]... > Wasn't it cockroaches? > Apparently they can live through extremely high levels of radiation and > toxic pollution......except for a decent dose of insecticide, of course!:) > > Bruce. Dear Bruce, According to a documentary I saw recently a particular type of spider (I forget which) is sheing signs of complex behaviour and will try to "talk" with a tv image of another spider of the same type, apparently its brain is the size of a grain od salt and this is mystifying the researchers, they are convinced that it shews the same level of intelligence as that of a lab rat, which isnt bad I suppose.... lab spiders anyone...........? beowulf > "Beowulf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yJC8e.46745$[email hidden]... > > salv� > > Jon Miller <[email hidden]> skrev i > > diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[email hidden]... > > > Remember the dinosaurs lasted millions of years. We areintelligent > > and > > > will be able to destroy our habitat in a much shorter period of time.I

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> > > often wonder what's next? > > > > > Spiders apparently....... > > 8P > > Beowulf > > > > > >

For *you*, maybe, if that is your belief. For me.......there is no answer now and never will be. Bruce. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Only God knows the answer to the question that makes you wonder, > I suppose >

Bruce Kennewell, 4/17/2005, 6:27:37 AM, wrote:

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> There is no heaven. > There is no hell. > Religion, in all its forms, is simply a crutch which mankind, since > the dawn of time, has used to explain the inexplicable and to cover > the fact that mortality is something which he cannot accept. > > When we die, we cease to exist. > There is no afterlife. > There is no "beyond". > There is no reincarnation. > There is nothing. > The filament in the light bulb has burnt out. > > Yet mankind will continue to wage wars in the name of religion and in > defence and support of "god". > > Sometimes I wonder what freak of creation entitled us to an existence > in the first place. > > Bruce.

Indeed, everything you say is true for the non-believer of which I used to be one. If you decide to investigate what believers offer as proof and remain open-minded, someday you will have a spiritual experience that will convince you otherwise. Spirituality is a personal relationship with a Higher Power; religion is the method a group uses to worship Him. Yes, there have been countless people who have been influenced into following egomaniacs in the name of religion. By the same token there have been countless people who have found a purpose in life and direct it toward helping others. You should continue to wonder where all this came from. There is a better chance you will find your own arguments wanting. -- No matter what happens someone will find a way to take it too seriously.

"Beowulf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6XV8e.47146$[email hidden]...

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> According to a documentary I saw recently a particular type of spider (I > forget which) is sheing signs of complex behaviour and will try to "talk" > with a tv image of another spider of the same type, apparently its brain > is > the size of a grain od salt and this is mystifying the researchers, they > are > convinced that it shews the same level of intelligence as that of a lab > rat, > which isnt bad I suppose.... lab spiders anyone...........? > beowulf >

In spite of some signs of intelligence spiders and rats are not very bright. But then apparently they are not the ones who are mystified either. Studies do show however that spiders, rats and researchers all demonstrate a much heighten sense of awareness when set on fire. Bruce

"Bruce Favinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:v0_8e.371$[email hidden]...

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> > > "Beowulf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:6XV8e.47146$[email hidden]... > >> According to a documentary I saw recently a particular type of spider (I >> forget which) is sheing signs of complex behaviour and will try to "talk" >> with a tv image of another spider of the same type, apparently its brain >> is >> the size of a grain od salt and this is mystifying the researchers, they >> are >> convinced that it shews the same level of intelligence as that of a lab >> rat, >> which isnt bad I suppose.... lab spiders anyone...........? >> beowulf >> > > In spite of some signs of intelligence spiders and rats are not very > bright. But then apparently they are not the ones who are mystified > either. Studies do show however that spiders, rats and researchers all > demonstrate a much heighten sense of awareness when set on fire. Bruce

So do Buddhist monks!

That's exactly my point......I *don't* believe that a religion - any religion - is anything more than superstition that has been in existence since mankind evolved into a creature aware of its own existence and afraid of thunder. And I am far more open-minded about my belief than is the Mormon missionary or Jehovah's Witness who rings my doorbell and then proceeds to harangue me about *their* belief. But then, I don't go around ringing *their* doorbells and trying to convert them to my line of thought. So guess who is the more tolerant and more open-minded! It never ceases to amaze me that religious zealots continually trot out the "have an open-minded approach" line yet they *have* to go forth and spread their message throughout the length and breadth of the land, forcing their beliefs on others. *Their* minds are closed tighter than a fish's arsehole, and that's water-tight. Bruce. "badgolferman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Indeed, everything you say is true for the non-believer of which I used tobe one. If you decide to investigate what believers offer as proof and remain open-minded, someday you will have a spiritual experience that will convince you otherwise.

"Bruce Kennewell" wrote... > *Their* minds are closed tighter than a fish's arsehole, and that's > water-tight. Mammal's ass, actually. The deepest diving "water creature" not employing pressure equalisation is the sperm whale. Jan. =---

LOL!! Thanks for that, Jan! Bruce. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uNf9e.69172$[email hidden]... > > Mammal's ass, actually. The deepest diving "water creature" not employing > pressure equalisation is the sperm whale.

Jan Verschueren wrote: >>*Their* minds are closed tighter than a fish's arsehole, and that's >>water-tight. > Mammal's ass, actually. The deepest diving "water creature" not employing > pressure equalisation is the sperm whale. <G> I believe in the power of BRM. I think that makes me one of the most true believers anywhere. Regards, Rudy (GPLRank -24)

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> "Bruce Kennewell" wrote... > >>*Their* minds are closed tighter than a fish's arsehole, and that's >>water-tight. > > > Mammal's ass, actually. The deepest diving "water creature" not employing > pressure equalisation is the sperm whale.

I'm not sure if I find your comment funny, or your knowledge of the pressure capability of a sperm whale's ass more than a little disturbing! :-) That's some esoteric general knowledge!

Well, Rudy, if not a "true believer", then definitely a disciple of some sort! :) (Maybe an apostle, even!) Bruce. "Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d46fro$ha5$[email hidden]... > > I believe in the power of BRM. I think that makes me one of the most > true believers anywhere.

"John Wallace" wrote... >> <snip> > I'm not sure if I find your comment funny, or your knowledge > of the pressure capability of a sperm whale's ass more than > a little disturbing! :-) Lol!! -don't worry, I can't hold my breath long enough. Jan. =---

Unless you are wrong, and there is an answer in which case you will learn the correct answer, eventually. Just because you don't know the answer does not mean it is not there... I believe religion is not the 'truth', it is a construct of mankind. In the blink of a cosmic eye, our little white* G class ball of plasma will balloon red and the point will be moot. * it's only yellow here on earth, in space, it's white, the atmosphere changes it's apparent color. "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42645316$[email hidden]...

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> For *you*, maybe, if that is your belief. > > For me.......there is no answer now and never will be. > > Bruce. > > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Only God knows the answer to the question that makes you wonder, >> I suppose >> > >