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OT: WTF! TV coverage in USA s.u.c.k.s

13 posts by 8 people · 17 Apr 2005 17:12 UTC - 24 Apr 2005 02:00 UTC

Dave Henrie 17 Apr 2005 17:12 UTC#22027
So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. I grumble to myself and let it go... Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. dave henrie
Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy. Not counting the minutes of ads during the race itself. Mitch "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The > 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. > I grumble to myself and let it go... > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by > BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in > other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour > European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. > Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. > dave henrie
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:
Quoted text (16 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? > The > 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. > I grumble to myself and let it go... > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone > by BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, > and in > other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour > European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. > Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. > dave henrie
finally in europe we have a motorsport channel to watch :o) motorsTV has been a revalation since it started broadcasting in the UK a few years ago. right now there showing full race replays of this weekends aussie v8 race at pukekohe. we also get live aussie coverage,live busch nascar, live lemans endurance(both series) live BTCC, world superbikes, live AMA superbikes plus much more. a big thumbs up from me, cant wait for live bathurst 1000 :o)
TW 18 Apr 2005 02:42 UTC↳ reply to Mitch_A#21951
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy. Not >counting the minutes of ads during the race itself. But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers feel about this?
pw 18 Apr 2005 04:12 UTC↳ reply to Dave Henrie#21955
Quoted text (14 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The >'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. >I grumble to myself and let it go... >Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road >Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by >BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in >other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour >European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. >Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. >dave henrie
Move to Europe Dave! Then maybe you will also get to watch all the "football" you want too! Or get the Speed Channel <g> -pw remove astericks (*) from e-mail address (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net) ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
Schooner 18 Apr 2005 21:44 UTC↳ reply to TW#21982
Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at the same time as the race ;-) "TW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy. Not >>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself. > > But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did > with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the > race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers > feel about this?
"schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:FSV8e.38799$vt1.35398@edtnps90:
Quoted text (18 lines)> Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at > the same time as the race ;-) > > "TW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy. Not >>>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself. >> >> But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did >> with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the >> race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers >> feel about this? > > >
Here is my 'guess' as to WHY this happens. In the 'old' days of programming, each programmer wrote his own code for finding, identifying, and communicating with various controllers. The more time a team had to work with all the various products, the more options could be covered. Then Windows came along and tried to standardize many of the coding processes. The trouble was...the hardware was not always 100% windows compliant and programmers would have to poke around and figure out what was needed to get a paticular piece of hardware working. Gradually much of this work was being done by the hardware manufacturers under the guise of customer support(in this case the software companies would be the customers) So not only were specs distributed to the code monkeys, but actual humans were often assigned to smooth the process, helping the hardware work with the code. It probably got to the point, that if a manufacturer did NOT send help (i.e. one or more coders to integrate the hardware with the sim) then the 'team' could not justify working and debugging and consumer supporting those products. Hence with MS know longer even acknowledging that they ever sold wheels, there is no-one for the EA team to contact for software support. No help, no ingame inclusion. Just my 'hunch.' I am far far removed from any who trully would be on the inside to know. dave henrie
I'll assume your replying to another thread Dave ;-) "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (48 lines)> "schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:FSV8e.38799$vt1.35398@edtnps90: > >> Maybe they split it to allow the viewer to watch the commercials at >> the same time as the race ;-) >> >> "TW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:35:38 GMT, "Mitch_A" >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>>Yea 4 mins of commercials every 7 minutes of broadcast is crazy. Not >>>>counting the minutes of ads during the race itself. >>> >>> But along those lines, did anyone notice what the first IRL race did >>> with commercials? They did a split screen and allowed us to watch the >>> race at the same time as commercials. I wonder how the advertisers >>> feel about this? >> >> >> > > Here is my 'guess' as to WHY this happens. > > In the 'old' days of programming, each programmer wrote his own code for > finding, identifying, and communicating with various controllers. The > more time a team had to work with all the various products, the more > options could be covered. > Then Windows came along and tried to standardize many of the coding > processes. The trouble was...the hardware was not always 100% windows > compliant and programmers would have to poke around and figure out what > was needed to get a paticular piece of hardware working. > Gradually much of this work was being done by the hardware > manufacturers under the guise of customer support(in this case the > software companies would be the customers) So not only were specs > distributed to the code monkeys, but actual humans were often assigned to > smooth the process, helping the hardware work with the code. > It probably got to the point, that if a manufacturer did NOT send help > (i.e. one or more coders to integrate the hardware with the sim) then the > 'team' could not justify working and debugging and consumer supporting > those products. Hence with MS know longer even acknowledging that they > ever sold wheels, there is no-one for the EA team to contact for software > support. No help, no ingame inclusion. > > Just my 'hunch.' I am far far removed from any who trully would be on > the inside to know. > > dave henrie
"schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:7q_8e.42454$jR3.2060@edtnps84: > I'll assume your replying to another thread Dave ;-) > Whoops...yeah...sorry. dh
yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its TV period! theres not one bit of an original thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to the no attention span younger generation. this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what its for but you really need to have it. Neil "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The > 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. > I grumble to myself and let it go... > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by > BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in > other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour > European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. > Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. > dave henrie
yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its TV period! theres not one bit of an original thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to the no attention span younger generation. this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what its for but you really need to have it. Neil "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The > 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. > I grumble to myself and let it go... > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by > BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in > other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour > European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. > Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. > dave henrie
yes its really gotten out of control,and its not just the race coverage its TV period! theres not one bit of an original thought in these peoples heads.but this is what happens when you market to the no attention span younger generation. this post was brought to you by some pill that we cant really tell you what its for but you really need to have it. Neil "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> So I turn on NBC to watch the first Champcar of the season. WTF? The > 'coverage' BEGINS with 3 laps of racing already having been completed. > I grumble to myself and let it go... > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by > BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > > In some respects this is the absolute best time to be a race fan, and in > other ways...it SUCKS! Screw Em I say. !!! lolololol > > This is compounded by the fact I just recently got to see a 3 hour > European broadcast that had commercials only every 30 to 40 minutes. > Instead of the usualy 5 to 10 during US race coverage. > dave henrie
Dave Henrie wrote: > Then the next weekend, I tune in the ALMS Sportscar race at Road > Atlanta...and WTF???? 50(yes FIFTY FREAKIN' MINUTES)have already gone by > BEFORE CBS deigns to allow us peons to see the race. > Uhh, Dave, I believe ALMS, and possibly CCWS too, are forced to buy their air time for coverage. As such, they're at the whims of the networks other properties. -jde

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