Re: Bathurst

In article <3a192c4a$0$19414$[email hidden]>, "steve whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of > Ingall and the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. > These guys forget what its like to be a privateer. Man, guess I'm going to have to get Stan to send me the Bathurst race tapes...didn't realize the after-race commentary was going to be so heated! ;] I have my own opinions of the Aussie drivers, but since I don't get to see them as much as the 'natives' do, I'll not comment...except to say that my personal opinion of some of them wasn't too hot. However, I don't know where you're going to go to watch motorsports, as I can't think of a single championship where at least one driver doesn't rub me the wrong way...it's life. You get the same thing over here...good ole' Geoff (not Geoffry) Bodine made a few choice comments a few years ago about Jimmmy Spencer, and Jimmy made a few back. Both of them were out of order, as they had been beating on each other's fenders for about the 10 previous laps...then they finally wrecked, and took another car with them. NASCAR gave'm a 'talking ticket' for their troubles... Cheers! Jan Kohl The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Idiotic move. He got a one minute stop start penalty. Pete "GM Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the BigKev > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and runner-upin

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> one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, > asleep... He got away with it. > > > "Stuurm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rFNR5.86866$[email hidden]... > > Who can do me a Big Kev car skin for SCGT? What a top braking move...I > > haven't laughed so much since Button went off after the safety care left > at > > the Italian Grand Prix... > > > > Stuurm > >

Who can do me a Big Kev car skin for SCGT? What a top braking move...I haven't laughed so much since Button went off after the safety care left at the Italian Grand Prix... Stuurm

I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of Ingall and the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. These guys forget what its like to be a privateer. It goes back to the debates in this newsgroup in regards to slower drivers in online races. the slower driver should hold his racing line and faster driver has to find a way around. Exactly the same in real life. I didn't watch much of the Bathurst race. Too pissed off with the likes of Ingall to enjoy it. But from what I did see, I saw some of the top drivers do some damn stupid moves. Ask Neal Bates about Greg Crick. thoroughly disgusted racing fan steve "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a191112$[email hidden]...

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> He may have got away with it but at least that idiot Ingall was hit with a > AUS$10,000 fine for his "wanker" and "dickhead" remarks (on national TV) > when referring to the skills, behaviour and I.Q. of other drivers. He's > damned lucky he hasn't copped a libel suit. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > GM Fude <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the Big > Kev > > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and

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> in > > one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, > > asleep... He got away with it. > > > > > > >

Very true, Steve. It happens every year at Bathurst (and probably every year at every other major race anywhere in the world, I'd imagine). There is a cliqu� of top drivers who believe that they should be the only competitors racing and, if they're not, then to hell with anyone else out there. They forget their own upbringings very, very quickly. -- BK. --------------------------- steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a192c4a$0$19414$[email hidden]... > I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of Ingall and > the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. These guys forget > what its like to be a privateer. > > It goes back to the debates in this newsgroup in regards to slower drivers > in online races. > the slower driver should hold his racing line and faster driver has to find > a way around. Exactly the same in real life. > > I didn't watch much of the Bathurst race. Too pissed off with the likes of > Ingall to enjoy it. But from what I did see, I saw some of the top drivers > do some damn stupid moves. Ask Neal Bates about Greg Crick. > > thoroughly disgusted racing fan > steve > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3a191112$[email hidden]... > > He may have got away with it but at least that idiot Ingall was hit with a > > AUS$10,000 fine for his "wanker" and "dickhead" remarks (on national TV) > > when referring to the skills, behaviour and I.Q. of other drivers. He's > > damned lucky he hasn't copped a libel suit. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > GM Fude <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > > > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the Big > > Kev > > > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and > runner-up > > in > > > one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, > > > asleep... He got away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

From a TV spectator's point of view it was an entertaining, yet frustrating, day. It was the most disjointed Bathurst race I've watched for years, primarily because of the weather. However, the behaviour of some drivers and their over-driving can't be blamed solely on the weather conditions; an awful lot of these so-called "professionals" acted as if the event was a 10-lap sprint and drove accordingly. Some of them should have had bulldozer blades fitted to the front of their vehicles so as to shovel the slower, maybe less experienced, drivers off the track. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8vbkta$ihm$[email hidden]... > In article <3a192c4a$0$19414$[email hidden]>, > "steve whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of > > Ingall and the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. > > These guys forget what its like to be a privateer. > > Man, guess I'm going to have to get Stan to send me the Bathurst race > tapes...didn't realize the after-race commentary was going to be so > heated! ;] > > I have my own opinions of the Aussie drivers, but since I don't get to > see them as much as the 'natives' do, I'll not comment...except to say > that my personal opinion of some of them wasn't too hot. However, I > don't know where you're going to go to watch motorsports, as I can't > think of a single championship where at least one driver doesn't rub me > the wrong way...it's life. > > You get the same thing over here...good ole' Geoff (not Geoffry) Bodine > made a few choice comments a few years ago about Jimmmy Spencer, and > Jimmy made a few back. Both of them were out of order, as they had > been beating on each other's fenders for about the 10 previous > laps...then they finally wrecked, and took another car with them. > NASCAR gave'm a 'talking ticket' for their troubles... > > Cheers! > > Jan Kohl > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the Big Kev car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and runner-up in one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, asleep... He got away with it. "Stuurm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rFNR5.86866$[email hidden]... > Who can do me a Big Kev car skin for SCGT? What a top braking move...I > haven't laughed so much since Button went off after the safety care leftat > the Italian Grand Prix... > > Stuurm

Racing is no longer a gentleman's sport. It is about winning and winning. If you are doing neither, you're not happy. It's sad, but that's the way it is. In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Very true, Steve. It happens every year at Bathurst (and probablyevery > year at every other major race anywhere in the world, I'd imagine). > There is a cliqu� of top drivers who believe that they should be theonly > competitors racing and, if they're not, then to hell with anyone elseout

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> there. > They forget their own upbringings very, very quickly. > > -- > BK. > --------------------------- > > steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3a192c4a$0$19414$[email hidden]... > > I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of

Ingall and > > the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. These guysforget > > what its like to be a privateer. > > > > It goes back to the debates in this newsgroup in regards to slowerdrivers > > in online races. > > the slower driver should hold his racing line and faster driver hasto > find > > a way around. Exactly the same in real life. > > > > I didn't watch much of the Bathurst race. Too pissed off with thelikes

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> of > > Ingall to enjoy it. But from what I did see, I saw some of the top > drivers > > do some damn stupid moves. Ask Neal Bates about Greg Crick. > > > > thoroughly disgusted racing fan > > steve > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3a191112$[email hidden]... > > > He may have got away with it but at least that idiot Ingall was

hit with > a > > > AUS$10,000 fine for his "wanker" and "dickhead" remarks (onnational TV) > > > when referring to the skills, behaviour and I.Q. of otherdrivers. He's

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> > > damned lucky he hasn't copped a libel suit. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > GM Fude <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > > > > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in

the > Big > > > Kev > > > > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and > > runner-up > > > in > > > > one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards,apparently,

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> > > > asleep... He got away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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He may have got away with it but at least that idiot Ingall was hit with a AUS$10,000 fine for his "wanker" and "dickhead" remarks (on national TV) when referring to the skills, behaviour and I.Q. of other drivers. He's damned lucky he hasn't copped a libel suit. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- GM Fude <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the Big Kev > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and runner-up in > one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, > asleep... He got away with it. > >

It makes me wonder how some of the drivers would've coped if they were still racing with all the different classes and makes of car. Thats when to be a top driver you had to learn to use the slower cars to you're advantage. I think I'll start following the Production cars more closely in future. steve "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Very true, Steve. It happens every year at Bathurst (and probably every > year at every other major race anywhere in the world, I'd imagine). > There is a cliqu� of top drivers who believe that they should be the only > competitors racing and, if they're not, then to hell with anyone else out > there. > They forget their own upbringings very, very quickly. > > -- > BK. > --------------------------- > > steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3a192c4a$0$19414$[email hidden]... > > I wont be watching anymore V8 Supercar races until the likes of Ingall

and > > the other drivers that supported his comments are gone. These guysforget > > what its like to be a privateer. > > > > It goes back to the debates in this newsgroup in regards to slowerdrivers

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> > in online races. > > the slower driver should hold his racing line and faster driver has to > find > > a way around. Exactly the same in real life. > > > > I didn't watch much of the Bathurst race. Too pissed off with the likes > of > > Ingall to enjoy it. But from what I did see, I saw some of the top > drivers > > do some damn stupid moves. Ask Neal Bates about Greg Crick. > > > > thoroughly disgusted racing fan > > steve > > > > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3a191112$[email hidden]... > > > He may have got away with it but at least that idiot Ingall was hit

with > a > > > AUS$10,000 fine for his "wanker" and "dickhead" remarks (on nationalTV) > > > when referring to the skills, behaviour and I.Q. of other drivers.He's

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> > > damned lucky he hasn't copped a libel suit. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Bruce Kennewell, > > > Canberra, Australia. > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > GM Fude <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:5U4S5.37585$[email hidden]... > > > > Button is young and maybe has that as an excuse. Matt Neale in the > Big > > > Kev > > > > car is just brain dead, almost taking out the series leader and > > runner-up > > > in > > > > one hit. The commentators were aghast -- the Stewards, apparently, > > > > asleep... He got away with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

When the "Bathurst race" was the Armstrong 500 and, as you observed, split into various classes (A through E, I think) and there was no actual outright winner, the faster cars did indeed use the slower cars to their advantage. As an oldie I feel that the best Bathurst days were from the mid 1960's through to the very early 70's..........i.e., from when the Minis and Cortinas mixed it with Studebaker Larks! :-) Great days! -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a1ac07e$0$29576$[email hidden]... > It makes me wonder how some of the drivers would've coped if they were still > racing with all the different classes and makes of car. Thats when to be > a top driver you had to learn to use the slower cars to you're advantage. > I think I'll start following the Production cars more closely in future. > > steve

Not being as old to remember the 60's, but can remeber the 70's. I used to love the battle of Brock (6 pot Torana) against Moffat (v8 Ford) Different strengths and weaknesses of the two cars. I know what you mean about the Minis. Went to the first Adelaide 500. Loved the support races Was great watching the Mini's rounding up the larger cars under brakes, only to be passed on the next straight, then do it all again under brakes. Lets bring back production cars for the races. what was the old saying..."Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" They were the days..:o) Steve "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > When the "Bathurst race" was the Armstrong 500 and, as you observed, split > into various classes (A through E, I think) and there was no actualoutright

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> winner, the faster cars did indeed use the slower cars to their advantage. > As an oldie I feel that the best Bathurst days were from the mid 1960's > through to the very early 70's..........i.e., from when the Minis and > Cortinas mixed it with Studebaker Larks! :-) > > Great days! > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3a1ac07e$0$29576$[email hidden]... > > It makes me wonder how some of the drivers would've coped if they were > still > > racing with all the different classes and makes of car. Thats when to > be > > a top driver you had to learn to use the slower cars to you're

advantage. > > I think I'll start following the Production cars more closely in future. > > > > steve > > >

Our only exposure to 'the Great Race' was via Speedvision and almost exclusively the Super Tourers. Heck at first I didn't even know Oz had another class of racers. The 2.0 litre world seems to be shrinking fast. How many more seasons can the ATCC and STCC patch those cars together? dave henrie "steve whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a1ae2b8$0$19404$[email hidden]... > Not

I fell in love with the GTR Toranas after watching Brock win the 72 race...my first car was GTR Torana..(which my ex wife made me sell..:-(( but now Ive just restored another...yeeha!!! http://www.wave.co.nz/~ihobbis/sunbeam/torana.html cheers Ian

Yea Ian, I had a LJ XU-1 it was 18 months old & had 15,000 miles on it, I had to sell it cause I was getting married. !!!!!!!! They always want to spoil our fun don't they. Had to sell my Motocross bike as well, it used to look good on the trailer behind the XU-1 Ian Hobbis <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8vh3bu$5c5$[email hidden]...

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> I fell in love with the GTR Toranas after watching Brock win the 72 > race...my first car was GTR Torana..(which my ex wife made me sell..:-(( > but now Ive just restored another...yeeha!!! > http://www.wave.co.nz/~ihobbis/sunbeam/torana.html > > cheers > Ian > > >

They certainly were! -- BK. --------------------------- steve whitty <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a1ae2b8$0$19404$[email hidden]... > > They were the days..:o) > > Steve