Re: LWFF Deadzone

"BRH <brh<nospam>@ cavtel.net >" <"nospam> wrote in message news:4kkT5.11620$[email hidden]... > My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's > particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 > degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as > much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. Gently pry off the center cover of the wheel and check the nut which holds the wheel onto the steering shaft. Occasionally, this nut will loosen and you'll get a bit of slop in the steering. DO NOT overtighten, there is a circuit board under the nut which can be cracked if tightened too much. If you still experience some slop, pull off the base cover and check the steering pot, the glue holding it in place may have come loose allowing it to turn slightly in it's mount with each turn of the wheel. Good luck, -- don New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks: http://www.ianparker.co.uk/gpl/bapom/

My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. I have both CTFJ and DXTweak, but so far haven't been able to apply either of them to fix the problem. Specifically, my controller set up has the LWFF on ID 2 (using split axis) and my TSW pedals on ID 1. (That's the only "mixed" configuration that works in GPL). When I activate CTFJ, the wheel isn't recognized within GPL. (I can't calibrate it -- no movement when I turn the wheel). And lowering the LWFF deadzone to zero in DXTweak doesn't seem to work either. (Quick question -- should I click "done" before starting GPL, or leave the DxTweak window open when running GPL?) Can someone who also uses an LWFF with non-LWFF pedals in GPL explain to me how to adjust the deadzone on their LWFF in GPL? Thanks! -- Bert (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replaying)

Bert, None of the controller utilities I've tried have any effect on GPL, including DXTweak. The Logitech Profiler offers the only control, and it's settings are so weird they are of little use. I'll send you the Dead Zone adjust utility, but it doesn't effect GPL either. The best way I have found to deal with the LWFF is to run the 3.25 software, and remove the profiler entirely. The controls in GPL can then be used to set the linearity, and the dead zone goes away. I'm using CH pedals and the LWFF, and this works very well for me. You may have a physical problem with the pot rotating. Open the wheel up (all the silver screws, the big nut behind the wheel center) and check that the body of the steering pot is secure. Kevin Caldwell Calgary, Canada "BRH <brh<nospam>@ cavtel.net >" <"nospam> wrote in message news:4kkT5.11620$[email hidden]...

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> My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's > particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 > degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as > much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. > > I have both CTFJ and DXTweak, but so far haven't been able to apply > either of them to fix the problem. Specifically, my controller set up > has the LWFF on ID 2 (using split axis) and my TSW pedals on ID 1. > (That's the only "mixed" configuration that works in GPL). When I > activate CTFJ, the wheel isn't recognized within GPL. (I can't > calibrate it -- no movement when I turn the wheel). And lowering the > LWFF deadzone to zero in DXTweak doesn't seem to work either. (Quick > question -- should I click "done" before starting GPL, or leave the > DxTweak window open when running GPL?) > > Can someone who also uses an LWFF with non-LWFF pedals in GPL explain to > me how to adjust the deadzone on their LWFF in GPL? > > Thanks! > -- > Bert > > (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replaying) > >

My LWFF has all of sudden got looser in N3. I been thinking of what changed, and the only thing i can think of changing lately that could affect the steering controls is DirectX8.0.. Has anyone else installed DX8 and notice the LWFF getting looser? PassedYa Kevin wrote:

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> Bert, > > None of the controller utilities I've tried have any effect on GPL, > including DXTweak. The Logitech Profiler offers the only control, and it's > settings are so weird they are of little use. I'll send you the Dead Zone > adjust utility, but it doesn't effect GPL either. > > The best way I have found to deal with the LWFF is to run the 3.25 software, > and remove the profiler entirely. The controls in GPL can then be used to > set the linearity, and the dead zone goes away. I'm using CH pedals and the > LWFF, and this works very well for me. > > You may have a physical problem with the pot rotating. Open the wheel up > (all the silver screws, the big nut behind the wheel center) and check that > the body of the steering pot is secure. > > Kevin Caldwell > Calgary, Canada > > "BRH <brh<nospam>@ cavtel.net >" <"nospam> wrote in message > news:4kkT5.11620$[email hidden]... > > My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's > > particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 > > degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as > > much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. > > > > I have both CTFJ and DXTweak, but so far haven't been able to apply > > either of them to fix the problem. Specifically, my controller set up > > has the LWFF on ID 2 (using split axis) and my TSW pedals on ID 1. > > (That's the only "mixed" configuration that works in GPL). When I > > activate CTFJ, the wheel isn't recognized within GPL. (I can't > > calibrate it -- no movement when I turn the wheel). And lowering the > > LWFF deadzone to zero in DXTweak doesn't seem to work either. (Quick > > question -- should I click "done" before starting GPL, or leave the > > DxTweak window open when running GPL?) > > > > Can someone who also uses an LWFF with non-LWFF pedals in GPL explain to > > me how to adjust the deadzone on their LWFF in GPL? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > > Bert > > > > (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replaying) > > > >

Thanks Kevin. I received your e-mail with the DZ2 utility and I'll check it out. However, I'm curious about the statement you made about the linearity slider in GPL. I already use the 3.3 software and do not use the profiler at all. At what GPL linearity setting does the dead zone go away (or at least gets reduced). Should I slide it left or right to reduce deadzone. (I've got it right in the middle). Thanks again. Kevin wrote:

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> Bert, > > None of the controller utilities I've tried have any effect on GPL, > including DXTweak. The Logitech Profiler offers the only control, and it's > settings are so weird they are of little use. I'll send you the Dead Zone > adjust utility, but it doesn't effect GPL either. > > The best way I have found to deal with the LWFF is to run the 3.25 software, > and remove the profiler entirely. The controls in GPL can then be used to > set the linearity, and the dead zone goes away. I'm using CH pedals and the > LWFF, and this works very well for me. > > You may have a physical problem with the pot rotating. Open the wheel up > (all the silver screws, the big nut behind the wheel center) and check that > the body of the steering pot is secure. > > Kevin Caldwell > Calgary, Canada > > "BRH <brh<nospam>@ cavtel.net >" <"nospam> wrote in message > news:4kkT5.11620$[email hidden]... > > My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's > > particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 > > degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as > > much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. > > > > I have both CTFJ and DXTweak, but so far haven't been able to apply > > either of them to fix the problem. Specifically, my controller set up > > has the LWFF on ID 2 (using split axis) and my TSW pedals on ID 1. > > (That's the only "mixed" configuration that works in GPL). When I > > activate CTFJ, the wheel isn't recognized within GPL. (I can't > > calibrate it -- no movement when I turn the wheel). And lowering the > > LWFF deadzone to zero in DXTweak doesn't seem to work either. (Quick > > question -- should I click "done" before starting GPL, or leave the > > DxTweak window open when running GPL?) > > > > Can someone who also uses an LWFF with non-LWFF pedals in GPL explain to > > me how to adjust the deadzone on their LWFF in GPL? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > > Bert > > > > (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replaying) > > > >

-- Bert (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replying)

Never mind. Simple expermentation with the slider is all it took. Thanks. "BRH @" wrote:

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> Thanks Kevin. I received your e-mail with the DZ2 utility and I'll check it > out. However, I'm curious about the statement you made about the linearity > slider in GPL. > > I already use the 3.3 software and do not use the profiler at all. At what GPL > linearity setting does the dead zone go away (or at least gets reduced). Should > I slide it left or right to reduce deadzone. (I've got it right in the middle). > > Thanks again. > > Kevin wrote: > > > Bert, > > > > None of the controller utilities I've tried have any effect on GPL, > > including DXTweak. The Logitech Profiler offers the only control, and it's > > settings are so weird they are of little use. I'll send you the Dead Zone > > adjust utility, but it doesn't effect GPL either. > > > > The best way I have found to deal with the LWFF is to run the 3.25 software, > > and remove the profiler entirely. The controls in GPL can then be used to > > set the linearity, and the dead zone goes away. I'm using CH pedals and the > > LWFF, and this works very well for me. > > > > You may have a physical problem with the pot rotating. Open the wheel up > > (all the silver screws, the big nut behind the wheel center) and check that > > the body of the steering pot is secure. > > > > Kevin Caldwell > > Calgary, Canada > > > > "BRH <brh<nospam>@ cavtel.net >" <"nospam> wrote in message > > news:4kkT5.11620$[email hidden]... > > > My LWFF seems to have developed a slightly looser feel to it. It's > > > particularly annoying in GPL. The deadzone is somewhere in the 5-10 > > > degree range, by my guess. Anyways, I'd like to reduce that deadzone as > > > much as I can, but can't figure out how to do it. > > > > > > I have both CTFJ and DXTweak, but so far haven't been able to apply > > > either of them to fix the problem. Specifically, my controller set up > > > has the LWFF on ID 2 (using split axis) and my TSW pedals on ID 1. > > > (That's the only "mixed" configuration that works in GPL). When I > > > activate CTFJ, the wheel isn't recognized within GPL. (I can't > > > calibrate it -- no movement when I turn the wheel). And lowering the > > > LWFF deadzone to zero in DXTweak doesn't seem to work either. (Quick > > > question -- should I click "done" before starting GPL, or leave the > > > DxTweak window open when running GPL?) > > > > > > Can someone who also uses an LWFF with non-LWFF pedals in GPL explain to > > > me how to adjust the deadzone on their LWFF in GPL? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > -- > > > Bert > > > > > > (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replaying) > > > > > > > > -- > Bert > > (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replying)

-- Bert (Remove <nospam> from e-mail address when replying)

Exactly, I gad it happen to me on my first wheel, and now that I orderd a spare from just deals it happened with the other one too. It just had to be tightened with the "are you NUT" :) I don't think it is the pot at all. It is a very simple fix, but just dont use a wrench that's too big, or if you do, hold it close to the nut, so there is not to much leverage, or however you say that (torque basically). Hope it works for you! DOmi > Gently pry off the center cover of the wheel and check the nut whichholds > the wheel onto the steering shaft. Occasionally, this nut willloosen and > you'll get a bit of slop in the steering. DO NOT overtighten, thereis a > circuit board under the nut which can be cracked if tightened toomuch. If > you still experience some slop, pull off the base cover and checkthe > steering pot, the glue holding it in place may have come looseallowing it > to turn slightly in it's mount with each turn of the wheel.