N4 and cockpit shadows

Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in near darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the circut, the cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... -- dave henrie Free the ICR2 source code!

hi, I also noticed that ! nice touch ! Is there any exterior camera during race ? i would like use it for some physics test.... It's a shame that there is no raceway in the demo like Sears or Watkin :o( and last, what is the shortcut key for replay as F2 in GPL ? IMHO N4 is awesome ! Dave Henrie wrote:

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> Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in near > darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the circut, the > cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... > > -- > dave henrie > Free the ICR2 source code!

regards, -- Sebastien Tixier Suzuki 650 SVS blue 2000 (MagicFr) GPLRank handicap -28.66 Game Developer personal : http://magicfr.multimania.com company : http://www.eden-studios.fr

"S�bastien Tixier" writes: > hi, > > I also noticed that ! nice touch ! Indeed!! They add a new "dimension" to sims :-) > > Is there any exterior camera during race ? i would like use it for somephysics > test.... You mean - like F10-view? Sure... just use PageUp/PageDown to toggle between views. > It's a shame that there is no raceway in the demo like Sears or Watkin :o( > > and last, what is the shortcut key for replay as F2 in GPL ? ESC - and then choose Replay from the menu... Oh.. heck... while I'm at it.. I might aswell list all the keys: 1 thru 0 : Autochat keys... messages can be edited in the options or player-menus. Must be followed by "enter" to send the messages. F1 to F10: "Black-boxes." (use space and arrowkeys to adjust the settings..) Tips: When you race - Hit F2 and then the spacebar to see the disance to other cars. T : Chat F: Framerate-counter O: Toggle trackside-objects detail level. M: Toggle mirror detail level L: Show latency/quality Crtl+C: Connection quality "lat-o-meter" :-) Shift+R: reset car (back to pits) Shift+T: *read* and reset tacho tell-tail. S: Show speed and gear-indicator Pause: Guess :-) Printscreen: Take screenshot V: View next car (Shift+V: view previous car) Thats about it I guess... unless I've missed something... (apart from replay controls that is!) Ed_

On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:04:20 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in near >darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the circut, the >cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... It is more subtle than in the N4 demo, but the NH cockpit gets brighter and darker as you drive around the oval as well. ~daxe

Given the season and time of day that most Nascar races are run (the sun is high), I wouldn't think there should be much of a shadow effect on the dash. Watching the ground shadow in a non-cockpit view, it seems that N4 agrees with this for one view, but not the other. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:04:20 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in near > >darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the circut, the > >cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... > > > It is more subtle than in the N4 demo, but the NH cockpit gets > brighter and darker as you drive around the oval as well. > > ~daxe

S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > and last, what is the shortcut key for replay as F2 in GPL ? shift-F2

It would be nice if you could actually read the gauges. The shadows are a nice touch but too exagerated. The gauges go from being very difficult to read - to impossible to read. Bring back something closer to the N3 cockpit, get rid of that stupid steering wheel and shifter, add a subtle shadowing effect and you have a winner. jt "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:75VV5.4632$[email hidden]... > Given the season and time of day that most Nascar races are run (the sunis > high), I wouldn't think there should be much of a shadow effect on thedash.

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> Watching the ground shadow in a non-cockpit view, it seems that N4 agrees > with this for one view, but not the other. > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:04:20 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in

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> > >darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the circut, > the > > >cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... > > > > > > It is more subtle than in the N4 demo, but the NH cockpit gets > > brighter and darker as you drive around the oval as well. > > > > ~daxe > >

The best N4 improvement post I've read so far!!! Dave "jt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U2XV5.4531$[email hidden]...

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> It would be nice if you could actually read the gauges. The shadows are a > nice touch but too exagerated. The gauges go from being very difficult to > read - to impossible to read. Bring back something closer to the N3 > cockpit, get rid of that stupid steering wheel and shifter, add a subtle > shadowing effect and you have a winner. > > jt > > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:75VV5.4632$[email hidden]... > > Given the season and time of day that most Nascar races are run (the sun > is > > high), I wouldn't think there should be much of a shadow effect on the > dash. > > Watching the ground shadow in a non-cockpit view, it seems that N4

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> > with this for one view, but not the other. > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:04:20 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone else posted about the shadows that cloak the gauges in > near > > > >darkness for half the lap? When you turn the other half of the

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> > the > > > >cockpit and gauges are bathed in sunlight... > > > > > > > > > It is more subtle than in the N4 demo, but the NH cockpit gets > > > brighter and darker as you drive around the oval as well. > > > > > > ~daxe > > > > > > >

>Oh.. heck... while I'm at it.. I might aswell list all the keys: Wouldn't it be great if the publishers could put a list like this is the distribution. Maybe call it someting like "readme.txt" and put it in the ../[Game Root] directory. Even if they did I suppose most people wouldn't read it. Regards, Anthony Bulloch

Randy Cassidy wrote: > > S�bastien Tixier <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > and last, what is the shortcut key for replay as F2 in GPL ? > > shift-F2 Hi, Randy! While we're discussing keyboard inputs: Would it be possible to have two functions <next black box> and <previous black box> that go through the F1-F10 displays? This way I only had to use two buttons on my wheel, but could reach all of them. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) writes: >readme-files are for wuzzes! So are user manuals for home electronic >equipment. > Home electronics come with manuals?!? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> While we're discussing keyboard inputs: Would it be possible to > have two functions <next black box> and <previous black box> > that go through the F1-F10 displays? This way I only had to use > two buttons on my wheel, but could reach all of them. > -- > l8er > ronny

What you need Ronny is Game Commander. You can progam any number of black box functions that respond to your own voice. http://www.gamecommander.com/ dave henrie

Anthony Bulloch <[email hidden]> writes:

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> >Oh.. heck... while I'm at it.. I might aswell list all the keys: > > > Wouldn't it be great if the publishers could put a list like this is > the distribution. Maybe call it someting like "readme.txt" and put it > in the ../[Game Root] directory. > > Even if they did I suppose most people wouldn't read it.

readme-files are for wuzzes! So are user manuals for home electronic equipment. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

"Olav K. Malmin" wrote:

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> > Anthony Bulloch <[email hidden]> writes: > > > >Oh.. heck... while I'm at it.. I might aswell list all the keys: > > > > > > Wouldn't it be great if the publishers could put a list like this is > > the distribution. Maybe call it someting like "readme.txt" and put it > > in the ../[Game Root] directory. > > > > Even if they did I suppose most people wouldn't read it. > > readme-files are for wuzzes! So are user manuals for home electronic > equipment.

*Real* men don't read manuals........ Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--

In article <LwFW5.112791$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> Home electronics come with manuals?!? >> >> Eldred > Next someone is going to try and tell us that the VCR actually has a >clock...hahahaha Nah - we won't be THAT gullible...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <U2XV5.4531$[email hidden]>, "jt" <[email hidden]> wrote: > It would be nice if you could actually read the gauges. The shadowsare a > nice touch but too exagerated. The gauges go from being verydifficult to > read - to impossible to read. Bring back something closer to the N3 > cockpit, get rid of that stupid steering wheel and shifter, add asubtle > shadowing effect and you have a winner. > > jt You can turn the steering wheel off under one of the Option menus. It looks kinda funny though. It makes it look like someone took a hacksaw and cut off the steering shaft at the wheel. I would like to loose the goofy shifter though. -- Robert Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > Home electronics come with manuals?!? > > Eldred Next someone is going to try and tell us that the VCR actually has a clock...hahahaha dave henrie

In article <jUWW5.114336$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Thats the second time somebody has referred to the "goofy" shifter. > was it you both time?? Take a look at incar camera views...thats'pretty > accurate as far as placement and movement. > dave henrie Nope, only time I mentioned it. I doubt if I would notice the shifter out of my peripheral vision everytime I changed gears. With it on the screen the way it is I find it distracting. Besides, with my RS shifter, I don't need a second one, same reason I wanted the wheel off my screen. I've looked inside Winston Cup cars before and they look like you would never notice your shifter while looking straight out the windshield. -- Robert Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Thats the second time somebody has referred to the "goofy" shifter. was it you both time?? Take a look at incar camera views...thats' pretty accurate as far as placement and movement. dave henrie "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90goa5$bv6$[email hidden]...

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> In article <U2XV5.4531$[email hidden]>, > "jt" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > It would be nice if you could actually read the gauges. The shadows > are a > > nice touch but too exagerated. The gauges go from being very > difficult to > > read - to impossible to read. Bring back something closer to the N3 > > cockpit, get rid of that stupid steering wheel and shifter, add a > subtle > > shadowing effect and you have a winner. > > > > jt > > You can turn the steering wheel off under one of the Option menus. It > looks kinda funny though. It makes it look like someone took a hacksaw > and cut off the steering shaft at the wheel. I would like to loose the > goofy shifter though. > -- > Robert > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.