Re: F1 2000 CS?

I have a TSW2, and I had the same problem. It's a quirk created by the pot values that TSW uses for the throttle and brake, I believe, and not a specific problem with F1 2000 or F1CS2K. I don't have a clutch, but here's what you need to do to get the game to recognize the brake and throttle if you have a TSW, so it might help you a bit: 1) Calibrate in Windows (a no-brainer, but you've got to do it first). 2) When you go into the control menu in F1 2000 (or F1CS2K) and get ready to set the THROTTLE, you need to first depress the BRAKE pedal before starting the selection from the menu; then, AFTER you assign the throttle key (or bypass that portion), RELEASE the BRAKE FIRST, and THEN DEPRESS the THROTTLE. This will give you enough "sweep" of the throttle/brake axis to enable the game to recognize the throttle input. 3) You basically repeat step 2 to assign the brake: When you get ready to set the BRAKE, you need to first depress the THROTTLE pedal before starting the selection from the menu; then, AFTER you assign the brake key (or bypass that portion), RELEASE the THROTTLE first, and THEN DEPRESS the BRAKE. This will give you enough "sweep" of the throttle/brake axis to enable the game to recognize the brake input. This should get you moving in the right direction. -- JB In article <yxcW5.375820$[email hidden]>, "Richard \"ZZ\" Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I got the game now I can't get my TSW wheel to work. It won'trecognize my > Brake or clutch pedal. I had the same problem with F1 2000 and nowI've > forgotten if there was a fix or not. Does anyone know if there was afix or > know what I need to do to get my TSW to work with this game? And yes,it is

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I got the game now I can't get my TSW wheel to work. It won't recognize my Brake or clutch pedal. I had the same problem with F1 2000 and now I've forgotten if there was a fix or not. Does anyone know if there was a fix or know what I need to do to get my TSW to work with this game? And yes, it is working in Control Panel/Game Controllers. Thanks ZZ

Thanks JB. Unfortunately that didn't work with my TSW2Mod. the game works with my Logi FF wheel, but not with the TSW :( If I remember correctly split axis didn't work to wheel with F1 2000, or did it. This calibration problem made me take F1 2000 back. Thanks anyway ZZ

JB, Thanks for that procedure. When you stressed that you should re-calibrate in Windows first, THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED! I didn't do that first, because my controllers were already working fine in other sims, and F12KCS couldn't detect my TSW (not TSW2) accelerator pedal. After I recalibrated in Windows, there was no problem. I'm using an LWFF on ID#1, and TSW on ID#2 -- just reversed from GPL. This set up works fine with F12KCS. However, you have to remember to enable the LWFF centering spring to feel the FF. (In GPL it's better to disable it.). I'll have to try reversing the ID numbers so I don't have to constantly swap them between this sim and GPL. Although I haven't fine tuned the controller settings at all yet, it does appear that the deadzone in the wheel in this sim is rather large. Like I said, I haven't tried reducing it yet. Framerates, although unmeasured, seem pretty good at 800x600 on my Celeron 566@850 with 2 Voodoo2's, so a more modern videocard should work great. Graphic settings were basically set to the defaults. I raised some of the settings, but lowered a few others -- can't quite remember which ones right now. (F12KCS rates my system as a 3). The AI also seems OK, as I have spun and generally made a nuisance of myself, trying to "bait" them into hitting me, (OK, I spun because I'm a lousy driver......), and they managed to avoid me (and each other) with no problem. I haven't gotten into the sim much deeper than that yet. -- only a few hours. Just wanted to point out that you can mix 2 simultaneous controllers -- something I could not manage to get to work on its predecessor. Now, I'm just waiting for the No-CD patch.............. (Yes, I bought the retail game.) 8-) Bert See JB? We might disagree on Ford racing, but I think we can agree on this one. [email hidden] wrote:

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> I have a TSW2, and I had the same problem. It's a quirk created by the > pot values that TSW uses for the throttle and brake, I believe, and not > a specific problem with F1 2000 or F1CS2K. I don't have a clutch, but > here's what you need to do to get the game to recognize the brake and > throttle if you have a TSW, so it might help you a bit: > > 1) Calibrate in Windows (a no-brainer, but you've got to do it first). > > 2) When you go into the control menu in F1 2000 (or F1CS2K) and get > ready to set the THROTTLE, you need to first depress the BRAKE pedal > before starting the selection from the menu; then, AFTER you assign the > throttle key (or bypass that portion), RELEASE the BRAKE FIRST, and > THEN DEPRESS the THROTTLE. This will give you enough "sweep" of the > throttle/brake axis to enable the game to recognize the throttle input. > > 3) You basically repeat step 2 to assign the brake: When you get > ready to set the BRAKE, you need to first depress the THROTTLE pedal > before starting the selection from the menu; then, AFTER you assign the > brake key (or bypass that portion), RELEASE the THROTTLE first, and > THEN DEPRESS the BRAKE. This will give you enough "sweep" of the > throttle/brake axis to enable the game to recognize the brake input. > > This should get you moving in the right direction. > > -- JB > > In article <yxcW5.375820$[email hidden]>, > "Richard \"ZZ\" Busch" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I got the game now I can't get my TSW wheel to work. It won't > recognize my > > Brake or clutch pedal. I had the same problem with F1 2000 and now > I've > > forgotten if there was a fix or not. Does anyone know if there was a > fix or > > know what I need to do to get my TSW to work with this game? And yes, > it is > > working in Control Panel/Game Controllers. > > > > Thanks > > > > ZZ > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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In article <ZAjW5.13689$[email hidden]>, "BRH <brh<nospam>@" <"nospam>cavtel.net"> wrote: > JB, > > Thanks for that procedure. When you stressed that you should re-calibrate > in Windows first, THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED! I didn't do that > first, because my controllers were already working fine in othersims, and > F12KCS couldn't detect my TSW (not TSW2) accelerator pedal. After I > recalibrated in Windows, there was no problem. Glad to help! > I'm using an LWFF on ID#1, and TSW on ID#2 -- just reversed fromGPL. This > set up works fine with F12KCS. However, you have to remember toenable the > LWFF centering spring to feel the FF. (In GPL it's better to disable > it.). I'll have to try reversing the ID numbers so I don't have to > constantly swap them between this sim and GPL. Although I haven'tfine > tuned the controller settings at all yet, it does appear that thedeadzone > in the wheel in this sim is rather large. Like I said, I haven'ttried > reducing it yet. The folks at ISI use the Logitech FF wheel, so they must be aware of the large dead zone. They DO hold the Logitech drivers in great disdain, but from what I've heard, they otherwise love the wheel itself. Can the dead zone be "tweaked" better for the LWFF by using the F1CS2K in-game controller adjustments/settings? I know that the speed sensitivity and such can be tweaked, but I can't recall if there's any adjustment for dead zone. This might be something to look into. > Framerates, although unmeasured, seem pretty good at 800x600 on myCeleron > 566@850 with 2 Voodoo2's, so a more modern videocard should workgreat. > Graphic settings were basically set to the defaults. I raised someof the > settings, but lowered a few others -- can't quite remember which onesright > now. (F12KCS rates my system as a 3). You can use FRAPS to measure frame rates (http://www.fraps.com/). I've found it to be useful but not all that stable (it often closes itself while I'm playing). > The AI also seems OK, as I have spun and generally made a nuisance of > myself, trying to "bait" them into hitting me, (OK, I spun becauseI'm a > lousy driver......), and they managed to avoid me (and each other)with no > problem. I haven't gotten into the sim much deeper than that yet. --only > a few hours. After playing around with it for more than a few weeks, I think the AI is pretty darn good. Glad to hear you're enjoying it so far! > Just wanted to point out that you can mix 2 simultaneous controllers -- > something I could not manage to get to work on its predecessor. YES! This is a VERY nice touch! Since my TSW2 has NO buttons besides the shifter, I'm currently using my wife's Logitech Wingman USB game pad with the buttons programmed for the keys to request a pit stop and pause -- it's MUCH easier to find the right buttons on the gamepad next to my wheel than it is to drive with the keyboard balanced on my lap (or on top of my TSW2!). > Now, I'm just waiting for the No-CD patch.............. (Yes, Ibought the > retail game.) 8-) YES! That would be nice -- the beta version I used for my review didn't require that the CD be installed, so I've become a bit spoiled! <G> > Bert > > See JB? We might disagree on Ford racing, but I think we can agreeon this > one. LOL! Funny you should mention that -- I ran three quick races in the "Championship Mode" in Ford Racing just this afternoon. I managed to "win" a Mustang (I've got a Ka, and Escort, and a Mustang now) -- WOO-HOO! I really DO love the tracks (GREAT graphics AND layouts), but just about the time the physics start to feel almost as good as NFSPU, something stupid always happens and I feel like I've been jolted back into NFS3 (in a less-than-good way!). It's sad how they came SO close to getting it very right, and yet they still managed to get it so wrong. Still, they accomplished their mission, because they got MY $19, didn't they? ;-) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.