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This may be all hot air.... but where I live (UK) I work on a trading/business estate. You all know the sort, lots of units in a big building as well as units with big doors for vans etc etc. Well for the last 8 months the unit opposite me has been filled with about 6-8 guys and 1 women. They all own fast cars (scoobys etc) apart from the women ( no pun ), well anyhow after months of me being interested in what they do curiosity got the better of me. Andy the guy that seems to run it came over to me to ask a favour ( moving some stuff ). So off I trotted and inside I went. Basically it was a room with lots of computers and a few consoles in.. a normal office with desks and a front desk. I gave him a hand dragging this large boxed and proceeded to help set up a huge and I mean huge plasma screen ( this was late last night ). Andy then asked me if I played games much, I said well I do, but I'm more into Sims on me old PC. He said "that's great", we chatted for a while about what I liked and what I thought was good and what wasn't ( I thought here we go another sim head ). I also talked about the fact that there doesn't seem to be many true Sims coming out on the PC apart from Live For Speed and what every the West's are doing. He said it was interesting and asked if I wanted to see something, We walked into a smaller side room and in side was a full frex set-up with a 42" plasma screen. He switched on the pc and proceeded to load up a sim that only I can describe as draw droopingly good. It's was a racing game called " Racing Elite " ( working title ). There where no real menus and some of the track side graphics where not apparent but there where two cars I could choose from. One was the 6 wheeled Tyrell and the other was a Ferrari.. I chose the Tyrell.. and all I can say is that it made 100% of the Sims I've seen today totally crap. The way the car drove was way beyond most Sims, and talk about being hugely fast.. and even the sound put GTR plus GT4 to shame. Having crashed more times than I could imaging Andy then showed my how to drive the Ferrari.. and yes the game moves... He explained that the game is due out in about 18 months and would utilise fully the 64bit windows system ( huh more money ). As yet they didn't have a publisher but he promised it would be a sim and not a GAME.... they were looking at doing a X-box2 version and PS3 but the main development would be for the PC. He explained that most of them had come from major UK games companies and decided to set up for them self's after becoming saddened by the way Sims have been forced to become more of a market friendly orientation. Andy also explained that they are working on a web site and hope to go public in the next 2 weeks or so... He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they can generate the better. He seemed a very nice guy and also apparently does a lot of small time motor sport..? He did explain about some of the physics engine ( all there own work ) as well as the 3d engine ( again all there own work ). Unlike most Sims it uses a new 4 wheel dynamic suspension system, these include tyre wear and tyre temp and tyre pressure + camber etc etc. He said that it would have a real time weather system with moving clouds... but none of this would take anything away from what he said will be the next big racing SIM... But it's hard to explain what I played. I mean I've been playing Sims/games since I was 10 years old in 1981.. I have a Frex set-up myself and I love GTR/GPL/Richard Burns etc etc as well as GT4 on the PS2...but I can't stress enough how much this sim blew me away. The track layout seemed to be the old silverstone but there wasn't much in the sense of background detail... but this sim was so live.. kind of imaging a new GPL on steroids... with a huge turbo fitted.. I could wheel spin the car in the 1st 4 gears on corners.. so throttle control was amazingly hard.. I can't wait 18 months. I'm not at work today so I can't go and see him... plus I don't want to come across as a nerd.. but more than likely he's going to read this on here..

Hehe, I had a similar experience not so long ago . Then I woke up. Ok, I hate to say this, but... PAULINHO, WAKE UP ! YOU JUST FELL ASLEEP AT WORK ! ;) (Mmmh. Six-wheeled Tyrell on old Silverstone. I hope he didn't dream that) Regards, Mr. Sylvestre

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> Hehe, I had a similar experience not so long ago . Then I woke up. Ok, I > hate to say this, but... > > PAULINHO, WAKE UP ! YOU JUST FELL ASLEEP AT WORK ! ;) > > (Mmmh. Six-wheeled Tyrell on old Silverstone. I hope he didn't dream that) > > Regards, > Mr. Sylvestre

Nope it wasn't a dream.... and I'm so happy it wasn't... I feel like the cat that's got the cream !! It was just a test car at a track that was in england.. I only drove maybe 4 corners. The car that Andy drove was a Ferrari 312T at the Dutch GP in 1976... I only know this cos it said so on screen.. So maybe Silverstone was just a development track for the sim. I really wish I could sneak a picture, but then again if he claims there web site is going live in 2 weeks then we should all have the fun of sharing it... I will just happen to know the people that are doing it and where they work from ;-)

Good post, altho I admittedly scanned to the bottom to make sure you weren't setting up a variation of the Nigerian fraud scheme. I was really expecting a "DEAR SIR/MADAM, THIS SIM CAN BE MADE IF YOU HELP ME MAKE A DISCREET DEPOSIT OF XXXXXXX" at the end.

Wow... I killed OE's newsgroups just weeks ago, so i dont have the link handy, maybe Ill find it on google, but seems yahoo or someone had info on this (possibly similiar) tittle? racking my brain, but I posted the thing here, and I could be mistaken. headed to google. Plowboy Paulinho enlightened us with:

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> This may be all hot air.... but where I live (UK) I work on a > trading/business estate. You all know the sort, lots of units in a big > building as well as units with big doors for vans etc etc. > Well for the last 8 months the unit opposite me has been filled with > about 6-8 guys and 1 women. They all own fast cars (scoobys etc) > apart from the women ( no pun ), well anyhow after months of me being > interested in what they do curiosity got the better of me. > Andy the guy that seems to run it came over to me to ask a favour ( > moving some stuff ). So off I trotted and inside I went. > > Basically it was a room with lots of computers and a few consoles > in.. a normal office with desks and a front desk. I gave him a hand > dragging this large boxed and proceeded to help set up a huge and I > mean huge plasma screen ( this was late last night ). > > Andy then asked me if I played games much, I said well I do, but I'm > more into Sims on me old PC. He said "that's great", we chatted for a > while about what I liked and what I thought was good and what wasn't > ( I thought here we go another sim head ). I also talked about the > fact that there doesn't seem to be many true Sims coming out on the > PC apart from Live For Speed and what every the West's are doing. > He said it was interesting and asked if I wanted to see something, We > walked into a smaller side room and in side was a full frex set-up > with a 42" plasma screen. He switched on the pc and proceeded to load > up a sim that only I can describe as draw droopingly good. > It's was a racing game called " Racing Elite " ( working title ). > There where no real menus and some of the track side graphics where > not apparent but there where two cars I could choose from. One was > the 6 wheeled Tyrell and the other was a Ferrari.. I chose the > Tyrell.. and all I can say is that it made 100% of the Sims I've seen > today totally crap. The way the car drove was way beyond most Sims, and > talk about being > hugely fast.. and even the sound put GTR plus GT4 to shame. > Having crashed more times than I could imaging Andy then showed my > how to drive the Ferrari.. and yes the game moves... > > He explained that the game is due out in about 18 months and would > utilise fully the 64bit windows system ( huh more money ). As yet > they didn't have a publisher but he promised it would be a sim and > not a GAME.... they were looking at doing a X-box2 version and PS3 > but the main development would be for the PC. He explained that most > of them had come from major UK games companies and decided to set up > for them self's after becoming saddened by the way Sims have been > forced to become more of a market friendly orientation. > Andy also explained that they are working on a web site and hope to go > public in the next 2 weeks or so... > > He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc > etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. > He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to > making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they > can generate the better. He seemed a very nice guy and also > apparently does a lot of small time motor sport..? > He did explain about some of the physics engine ( all there own work > ) as well as the 3d engine ( again all there own work ). > > Unlike most Sims it uses a new 4 wheel dynamic suspension system, > these include tyre wear and tyre temp and tyre pressure + camber etc > etc. He said that it would have a real time weather system with > moving clouds... but none of this would take anything away from what > he said will be the next big racing SIM... > > But it's hard to explain what I played. I mean I've been playing > Sims/games since I was 10 years old in 1981.. I have a Frex set-up > myself and I love GTR/GPL/Richard Burns etc etc as well as GT4 on the > PS2...but I can't stress enough how much this sim blew me away. > The track layout seemed to be the old silverstone but there wasn't > much in the sense of background detail... but this sim was so live.. > kind of imaging a new GPL on steroids... with a huge turbo fitted.. I > could wheel spin the car in the 1st 4 gears on corners.. so throttle > control was amazingly hard.. I can't wait 18 months. > > I'm not at work today so I can't go and see him... plus I don't want > to come across as a nerd.. but more than likely he's going to read > this on here..

"Plowboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6otbe.19222$Z73.7095@lakeread04...

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> Wow... > > I killed OE's newsgroups just weeks ago, so i dont have the link handy, > maybe Ill find it on google, but seems yahoo or someone had info on this > (possibly similiar) tittle? racking my brain, but I posted the thing > here, and I could be mistaken. > > headed to google. > > Plowboy > > Paulinho enlightened us with: >> This may be all hot air.... but where I live (UK) I work on a >> trading/business estate. You all know the sort, lots of units in a big >> building as well as units with big doors for vans etc etc. >> Well for the last 8 months the unit opposite me has been filled with >> about 6-8 guys and 1 women. They all own fast cars (scoobys etc) >> apart from the women ( no pun ), well anyhow after months of me being >> interested in what they do curiosity got the better of me. >> Andy the guy that seems to run it came over to me to ask a favour ( >> moving some stuff ). So off I trotted and inside I went. >> >> Basically it was a room with lots of computers and a few consoles >> in.. a normal office with desks and a front desk. I gave him a hand >> dragging this large boxed and proceeded to help set up a huge and I >> mean huge plasma screen ( this was late last night ). >> >> Andy then asked me if I played games much, I said well I do, but I'm >> more into Sims on me old PC. He said "that's great", we chatted for a >> while about what I liked and what I thought was good and what wasn't >> ( I thought here we go another sim head ). I also talked about the >> fact that there doesn't seem to be many true Sims coming out on the >> PC apart from Live For Speed and what every the West's are doing. >> He said it was interesting and asked if I wanted to see something, We >> walked into a smaller side room and in side was a full frex set-up >> with a 42" plasma screen. He switched on the pc and proceeded to load >> up a sim that only I can describe as draw droopingly good. >> It's was a racing game called " Racing Elite " ( working title ). >> There where no real menus and some of the track side graphics where >> not apparent but there where two cars I could choose from. One was >> the 6 wheeled Tyrell and the other was a Ferrari.. I chose the >> Tyrell.. and all I can say is that it made 100% of the Sims I've seen >> today totally crap. The way the car drove was way beyond most Sims, and >> talk about being >> hugely fast.. and even the sound put GTR plus GT4 to shame. >> Having crashed more times than I could imaging Andy then showed my >> how to drive the Ferrari.. and yes the game moves... >> >> He explained that the game is due out in about 18 months and would >> utilise fully the 64bit windows system ( huh more money ). As yet >> they didn't have a publisher but he promised it would be a sim and >> not a GAME.... they were looking at doing a X-box2 version and PS3 >> but the main development would be for the PC. He explained that most >> of them had come from major UK games companies and decided to set up >> for them self's after becoming saddened by the way Sims have been >> forced to become more of a market friendly orientation. >> Andy also explained that they are working on a web site and hope to go >> public in the next 2 weeks or so... >> >> He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc >> etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. >> He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to >> making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they >> can generate the better. He seemed a very nice guy and also >> apparently does a lot of small time motor sport..? >> He did explain about some of the physics engine ( all there own work >> ) as well as the 3d engine ( again all there own work ). >> >> Unlike most Sims it uses a new 4 wheel dynamic suspension system, >> these include tyre wear and tyre temp and tyre pressure + camber etc >> etc. He said that it would have a real time weather system with >> moving clouds... but none of this would take anything away from what >> he said will be the next big racing SIM... >> >> But it's hard to explain what I played. I mean I've been playing >> Sims/games since I was 10 years old in 1981.. I have a Frex set-up >> myself and I love GTR/GPL/Richard Burns etc etc as well as GT4 on the >> PS2...but I can't stress enough how much this sim blew me away. >> The track layout seemed to be the old silverstone but there wasn't >> much in the sense of background detail... but this sim was so live.. >> kind of imaging a new GPL on steroids... with a huge turbo fitted.. I >> could wheel spin the car in the 1st 4 gears on corners.. so throttle >> control was amazingly hard.. I can't wait 18 months. >> >> I'm not at work today so I can't go and see him... plus I don't want >> to come across as a nerd.. but more than likely he's going to read >> this on here.. > >

Ok I'm hopefully gonna get a picture tomorrow on my phone.. it won't be to good, but it's a start !!

In article <d4laq2$794$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Mr. Sylvestre) wrote: > PAULINHO, WAKE UP ! YOU JUST FELL ASLEEP AT WORK ! ;) Lol! It does sound too good to be true, doesn't it. Great era, our kind of developer, what more could you ask? Well, a release date this decade. 18months in development language is about eight years for us :-) Fingers crossed though. It sounds excellent. Andrew McP

Paulinho wrote: > I really wish I could sneak a picture, but then again if he claims there web > site is going live in 2 weeks then we should all have the fun of sharing > it... They didn't have a housecat and a bunch of teddy bears laying around, did they? Don McCorkle

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> Paulinho wrote: > > > I really wish I could sneak a picture, but then again if he claims there web > > site is going live in 2 weeks then we should all have the fun of sharing > > it... > > > They didn't have a housecat and a bunch of teddy bears laying around, > did they? > > Don McCorkle >

Only if they were boxed, I guess (and that would include the cat). -- Pete Ives Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

"Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> wrote in message news:d4m1o0$7oh$[email hidden]...

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> > "Plowboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:6otbe.19222$Z73.7095@lakeread04... >> Wow... >> >> I killed OE's newsgroups just weeks ago, so i dont have the link handy, >> maybe Ill find it on google, but seems yahoo or someone had info on this >> (possibly similiar) tittle? racking my brain, but I posted the thing >> here, and I could be mistaken. >> >> headed to google. >> >> Plowboy >> >> Paulinho enlightened us with: >>> This may be all hot air.... but where I live (UK) I work on a >>> trading/business estate. You all know the sort, lots of units in a big >>> building as well as units with big doors for vans etc etc. >>> Well for the last 8 months the unit opposite me has been filled with >>> about 6-8 guys and 1 women. They all own fast cars (scoobys etc) >>> apart from the women ( no pun ), well anyhow after months of me being >>> interested in what they do curiosity got the better of me. >>> Andy the guy that seems to run it came over to me to ask a favour ( >>> moving some stuff ). So off I trotted and inside I went. >>> >>> Basically it was a room with lots of computers and a few consoles >>> in.. a normal office with desks and a front desk. I gave him a hand >>> dragging this large boxed and proceeded to help set up a huge and I >>> mean huge plasma screen ( this was late last night ). >>> >>> Andy then asked me if I played games much, I said well I do, but I'm >>> more into Sims on me old PC. He said "that's great", we chatted for a >>> while about what I liked and what I thought was good and what wasn't >>> ( I thought here we go another sim head ). I also talked about the >>> fact that there doesn't seem to be many true Sims coming out on the >>> PC apart from Live For Speed and what every the West's are doing. >>> He said it was interesting and asked if I wanted to see something, We >>> walked into a smaller side room and in side was a full frex set-up >>> with a 42" plasma screen. He switched on the pc and proceeded to load >>> up a sim that only I can describe as draw droopingly good. >>> It's was a racing game called " Racing Elite " ( working title ). >>> There where no real menus and some of the track side graphics where >>> not apparent but there where two cars I could choose from. One was >>> the 6 wheeled Tyrell and the other was a Ferrari.. I chose the >>> Tyrell.. and all I can say is that it made 100% of the Sims I've seen >>> today totally crap. The way the car drove was way beyond most Sims, and >>> talk about being >>> hugely fast.. and even the sound put GTR plus GT4 to shame. >>> Having crashed more times than I could imaging Andy then showed my >>> how to drive the Ferrari.. and yes the game moves... >>> >>> He explained that the game is due out in about 18 months and would >>> utilise fully the 64bit windows system ( huh more money ). As yet >>> they didn't have a publisher but he promised it would be a sim and >>> not a GAME.... they were looking at doing a X-box2 version and PS3 >>> but the main development would be for the PC. He explained that most >>> of them had come from major UK games companies and decided to set up >>> for them self's after becoming saddened by the way Sims have been >>> forced to become more of a market friendly orientation. >>> Andy also explained that they are working on a web site and hope to go >>> public in the next 2 weeks or so... >>> >>> He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc >>> etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. >>> He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to >>> making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they >>> can generate the better. He seemed a very nice guy and also >>> apparently does a lot of small time motor sport..? >>> He did explain about some of the physics engine ( all there own work >>> ) as well as the 3d engine ( again all there own work ). >>> >>> Unlike most Sims it uses a new 4 wheel dynamic suspension system, >>> these include tyre wear and tyre temp and tyre pressure + camber etc >>> etc. He said that it would have a real time weather system with >>> moving clouds... but none of this would take anything away from what >>> he said will be the next big racing SIM... >>> >>> But it's hard to explain what I played. I mean I've been playing >>> Sims/games since I was 10 years old in 1981.. I have a Frex set-up >>> myself and I love GTR/GPL/Richard Burns etc etc as well as GT4 on the >>> PS2...but I can't stress enough how much this sim blew me away. >>> The track layout seemed to be the old silverstone but there wasn't >>> much in the sense of background detail... but this sim was so live.. >>> kind of imaging a new GPL on steroids... with a huge turbo fitted.. I >>> could wheel spin the car in the 1st 4 gears on corners.. so throttle >>> control was amazingly hard.. I can't wait 18 months. >>> >>> I'm not at work today so I can't go and see him... plus I don't want >>> to come across as a nerd.. but more than likely he's going to read >>> this on here.. >> >> > > Ok I'm hopefully gonna get a picture tomorrow on my phone.. it won't be to > good, but it's a start !! >

Just to say I didn't go into work today.. so no news, sorry... I went bike shopping instead.,..

In article <d4l8e8$n35$[email hidden]>, "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> says... > > > He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc etc > would all drop into the SIM at the end. > He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to making > an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they can generate True or not, this would make a perfect April Fools Day post. I am copying it, spell/grammar checking it and maybe add to it a bit. April 1st 2006, lookout! MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

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> In article <d4l8e8$n35$[email hidden]>, > "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> says... >> >> >> He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus etc >> etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. >> He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close to >> making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype they >> can generate > > True or not, this would make a perfect April Fools Day post. I am > copying it, spell/grammar checking it and maybe add to it a bit. April > 1st 2006, lookout! > > > MRSisson

The thing that 'caught' my eye's attention was the mention that the programmer had A) a huge plasma screen at home, and b) the exact same wheel pedal kit as the poster. Mighty coincidental that two high end wheel pedal combos are almost next-door neighbors. curiouser and curiouser dave henrie

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> Michael R Sisson <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:MPG.1cda04044e900ca398980f@nntp: > > > In article <d4l8e8$n35$[email hidden]>, > > "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> says... > >> > >> > >> He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus

etc > >> etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. > >> He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so closeto > >> making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hypethey > >> can generate > > > > True or not, this would make a perfect April Fools Day post. I am > > copying it, spell/grammar checking it and maybe add to it a bit.April > > 1st 2006, lookout! > > > > > > MRSisson > > The thing that 'caught' my eye's attention was the mention thatthe > programmer had A) a huge plasma screen at home, and b) the exact samewheel > pedal kit as the poster. Mighty coincidental that two high end wheelpedal > combos are almost next-door neighbors. > curiouser and curiouser > > dave henrie It didn't say the programmer had a huge plasma screen at home. It was in the office where this supposed sim is being developed -- which is a bit more believable. -Patrick

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> > Dave Henrie wrote: > > Michael R Sisson <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:MPG.1cda04044e900ca398980f@nntp: > > > > > In article <d4l8e8$n35$[email hidden]>, > > > "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> says... > > >> > > >> > > >> He said there's still about 70% left to do, but things like menus > etc > > >> etc would all drop into the SIM at the end. > > >> He said he didn't mind me going public about it as there so close > to > > >> making an announcement that it wouldn't matter and the more hype > they > > >> can generate > > > > > > True or not, this would make a perfect April Fools Day post. I am > > > copying it, spell/grammar checking it and maybe add to it a bit. > April > > > 1st 2006, lookout! > > > > > > > > > MRSisson > > > > The thing that 'caught' my eye's attention was the mention that > the > > programmer had A) a huge plasma screen at home, and b) the exact same > wheel > > pedal kit as the poster. Mighty coincidental that two high end wheel > pedal > > combos are almost next-door neighbors. > > curiouser and curiouser > > > > dave henrie > > > > It didn't say the programmer had a huge plasma screen at home. It was > in the office where this supposed sim is being developed -- which is a > bit more believable. > > -Patrick >

Maybe, but the OP also praised the way the car drove, saying throttle control was very demanding and that he crashed more times than he could imagine, then followed in his next post by saying he'd only driven it for "maybe 4 corners." Not to mention this bit; "Unlike most Sims it uses a new 4 wheel dynamic suspension system." Guess all those 4 wheel suspensions from Papy, ISI, LFS, RBR and NK don't qualify as "dynamic" ! Gosh, we're a skeptical lot... ;-) SB

Well there was know one there today.. does anyone know of any shows or major meetings in london... There not hard to miss as Andy Drives a gold scooby...? yeap gold, it's brand new on a 54 plate. He's about 6Feet tall and slim with blonde hair...? So thats about 20% of England I guess..? The others ( sorry don't know there names ) are all about my age (34).. and drive Audis and Mitsubishis, but there all top of the range sports cars..? Maybe they all went to a track day... as he didn't mention that the other day. I'm working everyday next week so hopefully I will have some news... As foe the comments about the four wheeled suspension, what he showed me was a side diagram of a car going over a bump.. then over two bumps, shower how the cars rebound and preload worked etc etc, but then he showed me a diagram from an angle showing all four wheels... As for the 4 corners.... there where long straights between them, the cars felt twitchy not like GPL... those car although great still feel a little railed ? this felt like I could feel camber pull and surface changes... like GPL but multi ply that buy 100... See I drive a Pug track car and a Yamaha 1002cc sports bike.. so these felt real as I could imaging... The throttle would spin up the rears if abused... but not in a lame kind of canned spin F1 (EA) type of way.. You could pull away like Magnum in his Ferrari.. a controlled wheel spin...

"Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> wrote in message news:d4r7qn$ani$[email hidden]... > Well there was know one there today.. does anyone know of any shows ormajor > meetings in london... > > There not hard to miss as Andy Drives a gold scooby...? yeap gold, it's > brand new on a 54 plate. He's about 6Feet tall and slim with blondehair...? > So thats about 20% of England I guess..? > > The others ( sorry don't know there names ) are all about my age (34)..and > drive Audis and Mitsubishis, but there all top of the range sports cars..? > > Maybe they all went to a track day... as he didn't mention that the other > day. > > I'm working everyday next week so hopefully I will have some news... Look forward to it. > As foe the comments about the four wheeled suspension, what he showed mewas > a side diagram of a car going over a bump.. then over two bumps, showerhow > the cars rebound and preload worked etc etc, but then he showed me adiagram > from an angle showing all four wheels... That's a good thing, but nothing out of the ordinary for anything that calls itself a sim nowadays. What happens at one corner affects all the others and vice versa. > As for the 4 corners.... there where long straights between them, the cars > felt twitchy not like GPL... those car although great still feel a little > railed ? this felt like I could feel camber pull and surface changes...like > GPL but multi ply that buy 100... GPL cars are on rails, eh? Now that's not something you hear a lot of... ;-) What you mention does suggest a good tire model, though. You can easily feel camber pull and surface changes in RBR, for instance. And getting the tire model right is the big deal with a sim. Screw that up and it doesn't matter what you do with the rest of it; it'll still feel like junk. > > See I drive a Pug track car and a Yamaha 1002cc sports bike.. so thesefelt > real as I could imaging... > > The throttle would spin up the rears if abused... but not in a lame kindof > canned spin F1 (EA) type of way.. See above bit about screwing up the tire model. The F1C engine has issues with low speed grip, even in it's latest GTR iteration. Not an easy thing to get right, I gather. > You could pull away like Magnum in his Ferrari.. a controlled wheelspin... Only if Higgins wasn't watching... ;-)

Look forward to it. That's a good thing, but nothing out of the ordinary for anything that calls itself a sim nowadays. What happens at one corner affects all the others and vice versa. GPL cars are on rails, eh? Now that's not something you hear a lot of... ;-) What you mention does suggest a good tire model, though. You can easily feel camber pull and surface changes in RBR, for instance. And getting the tire model right is the big deal with a sim. Screw that up and it doesn't matter what you do with the rest of it; it'll still feel like junk. See above bit about screwing up the tire model. The F1C engine has issues with low speed grip, even in it's latest GTR iteration. Not an easy thing to get right, I gather. spin... Only if Higgins wasn't watching... ;-)

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Paulinho" <senninha1@(sad).btinternet.com> wrote in message > > You could pull away like Magnum in his Ferrari.. a controlled wheel > spin... > > Only if Higgins wasn't watching... ;-) :-) I still love that Ferrari. -- David G Fisher

Cracking use of grammar and spelling :) 1: There not hard to miss 2: yeap gold, 3: but there all top of the range 4: As foe the comments 5: shower how the cars 6: those car although great 7: like GPL but multi ply 8: so these felt real as I could imaging

"Splat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d4rjdo$d38$[email hidden]...

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> Cracking use of grammar and spelling :) > > 1: There not hard to miss > 2: yeap gold, > 3: but there all top of the range > 4: As foe the comments > 5: shower how the cars > 6: those car although great > 7: like GPL but multi ply > 8: so these felt real as I could imaging

Well, he already admitted crashing more times than he could imagine while driving through only 4 corners, so obviously our man has some issues. Cut him some slack... ;-)

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Splat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:d4rjdo$d38$[email hidden]... >> Cracking use of grammar and spelling :) >> >> 1: There not hard to miss >> 2: yeap gold, >> 3: but there all top of the range >> 4: As foe the comments >> 5: shower how the cars >> 6: those car although great >> 7: like GPL but multi ply >> 8: so these felt real as I could imaging > > Well, he already admitted crashing more times than he could imagine while > driving through only 4 corners, so obviously our man has some issues. > > Cut him some slack... ;-) > >

Ha Ha..... I happen to be very good at all sims, I'm just getting on abit at 34... as for the grammer.. I went to school,collage then uni.. but it doesn't seem to help when I can't get my spell checker to work..

Paulinho wrote: > Well there was know one there today.. does anyone know of any shows or major > meetings in london... > (...) > Maybe they all went to a track day... as he didn't mention that the other > day. Oh no ! You scared them away ! Now the ultimate sim is gone. Forever. Undoubtly these beings must have been aliens coding the ultimate sim for a world on the other side of the galaxy. They had set their office in Great Britain as it is generally accepted to be the holy place of motorsports across the universe but you blew their cover off (although the gold scooby was admittedly a pretty dumb move from their part) ! Oh, wait. Since they knew about the Tyrell, they can't be coming from farther away than 29 light-years. Quick, let's re-task Hubble. Mr. Sylvestre.

"Paulinho" wrote: > as for the grammer.. I went to school,collage then uni.. but it > doesn't seem to help when I can't get my spell checker to work.. lol - "grammer" - the irony :)