Re: GLP question: why is my name red after a race?

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Michael) writes:

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>Thanks Dave. I still have one problems: when I got out of my car, my >result said -6 laps. While I was racing, everybody in front of me was >+L1. But nobody was even remotely was bad as I was. The absolute >worst person except me was -1L at the finish. > >Also, regarding that finish....you're saying that the number of laps >left refer to the leader....then when I had the checkered flag it >should have said L6, is that it? It sure said L0....but I confirmed >at the end that I had only run 24 laps out of 30. (I only had time for >those 24 laps)... > >Something seems to be wrong...I just can't put my finger on the >explanation that would unravel this mystery for me.... > >The bottom line is: how do I know when to stop racing and go to the >pits? I could always count my laps in my head, but I am having enough >trouble staying on the road as it is...:-) >

If the pit board only read +1L, but the finishing board showed you -6L, then the game probably stopped scoring you. I've had this happen SEVERAL times, including league races. I bet it only showed time for the laps it *thinks* you did. Example:I was in a 26 lap Laguna Seca race Saturday. It stopped counting me after 1 lap, but I kept driving. My pit board showed me as +1L down from the driver ahead and stayed at that value. Whe the race was over, the race results showed me as -25L. I think the only reason my pitboard stayed at +1L was that the driver ahead of me disco'd. Normally, the + number will increment during the race if no one disco's... If the league admin looks at the server replay, I'm sure he could determine where you SHOULD have finished. I don't know how to fix this problem, and it's pissing me off... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 15:30:57 GMT, [email hidden] (Michael) wrote:

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>Hi all, > >I just joined a league in which I try my best to finish races >(yes....as pathetic as it sounds, it's my only reachable goal :-). > >Problem is last night, while trying to finish my race, I came accross >the finish line, got the checkered flag, had the pitboard that said >"L0". Althrough the race the board said "Whoever L1". As far as I >know, it means the guy in front of me only lapped me once. (which >didn't make sense, and I knew it). > >When I saw all this, I just put on the brakes and stopped, got out, >and the summary said I was 6 laps behind and my name was red. > >Would somebodyc are to explain to me the finer art of pitboards and >summary screens?

I'll give it a shot. As I think you've guessed, when the "Results" screen shows drivers in red, it means they've not finished on the lead lap. However, sometimes GPL will not always track or score your results correctly. It may show that you've finished many laps down, when you're really only one down. I think this happens sometimes due to warps or clock smashes or other such connection anomalies. Re: your pitboard question, I think you meant to say the pitboard showed that, after you were lapped, that the person in front of you was "+L1" (or maybe it's "-L1"), indicating that this driver is one lap ahead of you. That number is your standing in the field. The pitboard will also obviously show how many laps are left in the race, in the upper-right corner. If you're a lap down, and you cross the finish line and get the checkered, your pitboard should say "L1" and not "L0" because the Lap Number is tied to the leader's lap number. If I have this wrong at all, someone slap me around. :) Cheers, ============================ Dave Mack [email hidden] Homepage: "GPL Race Reports" http://www.geocities.com/dmackf2 (remove "nospamfor_" for correspondence)

When you apear in red in the results it means you didn't complete enough (a fixed percentage, it's in the manual somewhere) of the race to be "classified". With online races being quite short most of the time, this can mean as little as 1 or 2 laps down on the leader being enough to not be "classified". The pitboard does get out of touch with reality sometimes during online races. The results exports usually are correct, unless the game has stopped scoring you because you crossed the start/finish line during a "warp". Even if everything works correctly the gap between you and the guy ahead will be misreported if you get lapped by the leader. Until the leader also laps the guy in front of you, he will be shown as +1L (and you will be shown as -1L to him) until you both get on the same lap again when the leader eventually passes him as well. This is a known issue. Jan. =--- Michael wrot... > Hi all, > > <snip>

Hi all, I just joined a league in which I try my best to finish races (yes....as pathetic as it sounds, it's my only reachable goal :-). Problem is last night, while trying to finish my race, I came accross the finish line, got the checkered flag, had the pitboard that said "L0". Althrough the race the board said "Whoever L1". As far as I know, it means the guy in front of me only lapped me once. (which didn't make sense, and I knew it). When I saw all this, I just put on the brakes and stopped, got out, and the summary said I was 6 laps behind and my name was red. Would somebodyc are to explain to me the finer art of pitboards and summary screens? Thanks alot! Micha�l

On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:36:27 -0500, nospamfor_dmack <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Re: your pitboard question, I think you meant to say the pitboard >showed that, after you were lapped, that the person in front of you >was "+L1" (or maybe it's "-L1"), indicating that this driver is one >lap ahead of you. That number is your standing in the field. The >pitboard will also obviously show how many laps are left in the race, >in the upper-right corner. If you're a lap down, and you cross the >finish line and get the checkered, your pitboard should say "L1" and >not "L0" because the Lap Number is tied to the leader's lap number.

Thanks Dave. I still have one problems: when I got out of my car, my result said -6 laps. While I was racing, everybody in front of me was +L1. But nobody was even remotely was bad as I was. The absolute worst person except me was -1L at the finish. Also, regarding that finish....you're saying that the number of laps left refer to the leader....then when I had the checkered flag it should have said L6, is that it? It sure said L0....but I confirmed at the end that I had only run 24 laps out of 30. (I only had time for those 24 laps)... Something seems to be wrong...I just can't put my finger on the explanation that would unravel this mystery for me.... The bottom line is: how do I know when to stop racing and go to the pits? I could always count my laps in my head, but I am having enough trouble staying on the road as it is...:-) Thanks Mike

If you completed 24 laps of a 30 lap race then the final result is correct, you are 6 laps down to the leader. When you are on the track however, it will show you how far behind the next car on track you are, which would have been in your case -1 lap. When you finished the race and it showed lap 0, that is the amount of laps that you had to complete to finish the race, if you have been lapped you will finish the race in less laps than the leader. In effect once the leader has taken the chequered flag, all cars will finish the race when they cross the finish line on the lap they are on, not the full amount of race laps. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Michael <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:36:27 -0500, nospamfor_dmack > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Re: your pitboard question, I think you meant to say the pitboard > >showed that, after you were lapped, that the person in front of you > >was "+L1" (or maybe it's "-L1"), indicating that this driver is one > >lap ahead of you. That number is your standing in the field. The > >pitboard will also obviously show how many laps are left in the race, > >in the upper-right corner. If you're a lap down, and you cross the > >finish line and get the checkered, your pitboard should say "L1" and > >not "L0" because the Lap Number is tied to the leader's lap number. > > Thanks Dave. I still have one problems: when I got out of my car, my > result said -6 laps. While I was racing, everybody in front of me was > +L1. But nobody was even remotely was bad as I was. The absolute > worst person except me was -1L at the finish. > > Also, regarding that finish....you're saying that the number of laps > left refer to the leader....then when I had the checkered flag it > should have said L6, is that it? It sure said L0....but I confirmed > at the end that I had only run 24 laps out of 30. (I only had time for > those 24 laps)... > > Something seems to be wrong...I just can't put my finger on the > explanation that would unravel this mystery for me.... > > The bottom line is: how do I know when to stop racing and go to the > pits? I could always count my laps in my head, but I am having enough > trouble staying on the road as it is...:-) > > Thanks > > Mike

>In effect once the leader has taken the chequered flag, all cars will finish >the race when they cross the finish line on the lap they are on, not the >full amount of race laps. THANK YOU! That has mystified me for ages....so it doesn't let all racers complet the race....hmmmm thanks! Mike

That's actually how all real races are run as well, at least all of the series I know of ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Michael <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >In effect once the leader has taken the chequered flag, all cars will finish > >the race when they cross the finish line on the lap they are on, not the > >full amount of race laps. > > THANK YOU! That has mystified me for ages....so it doesn't let all > racers complet the race....hmmmm > > thanks! > > Mike

:-) I, like most people, stop watching when the winner finishes... But then again it sounds logical, as you'd have very dangerous victory lap if you didn't stop at this point :-) Mike On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 23:27:01 -0000, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>That's actually how all real races are run as well, at least all of the >series I know of ;) > >-- >Ian P ><email invalid due to spam> > >Michael <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >In effect once the leader has taken the chequered flag, all cars will >finish >> >the race when they cross the finish line on the lap they are on, not the >> >full amount of race laps. >> >> THANK YOU! That has mystified me for ages....so it doesn't let all >> racers complet the race....hmmmm >> >> thanks! >> >> Mike > >

. > > THANK YOU! That has mystified me for ages....so it doesn't let all > racers complet the race....hmmmm Just as in real life racing. The leader takes the chequered flag and then all other competitors behind him complete the lap they are currently on. MS > > thanks! > > Mike

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Michael) writes:

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>:-) > >I, like most people, stop watching when the winner finishes... > >But then again it sounds logical, as you'd have very dangerous victory >lap if you didn't stop at this point :-) > >Mike >

But the fact that you're a lap down doesn't cause your name to be displayed in red. I ran a race at Road Atlanta, finished 2 laps down, and my name was listed normally. But, I also ran an extra lap - I wasn't sure if the checkered flag was for me or the leader who was passing me... It seems that I'd stopped when I saw the checkered before, and my name was in red. If I do an 'extra' lap, it isn't. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +40.48 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.