Re: A story of negativity

In article <90in86$4vk$[email hidden]>, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Marko Aaltonen <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:90i6ab$db2$[email hidden]... >> Well, I finally made it, after 5 odd months, I broke the elusive Papyrus >> 0.00 benchmark time for the eleven tracks. As of 4.12.2000 my GPLRanking >> is -0.71. > >Congrats... just beat the magic 0.00 two days ago after 5-6 months of >driving. Damn that felt good ;) >I'm right behind you at -0.44, looking to break the -5 barrier as soon as my >new computer arrives in a couple of days. >

I think I'm gonna be sick... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I think I'm gonna be sick... :) > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +44.17 I somehow think you have missed the most important point in alle this RankRage.... people who actually have a social life are doomed to remain on the positive side of 0.00. Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we have dedicated most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of a computer monitor ;) Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settle things on the track. (Not Rouen) See you... Mikkel

Well said :o) I for my part have a social life and am in the mid twenties struggling that down as hard as I can. My wife for sure shakes her head each time there is roumor in the homeofice and she has to pop up the TV volume :o) Anyway I never have heard about a game (sorry : SIM) that keeps alive for over TWO YEARS !!!! And I never heard about one that threatens with such strong addiction as does GPL. For hours, days, months and years ! Lets rock at vroc and enable our wives to have some sparetime of their own :o) Loving husbands, aren't we ? Cya J�rg Mikkel Gram-Hansen <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 90j6bc$n2t$[email hidden]...

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> EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I think I'm gonna be sick... :) > > Eldred > > -- > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPL hcp. +44.17 > > I somehow think you have missed the most important point in alle this > RankRage.... people who actually have a social life are doomed to remain

on > the positive side of 0.00. > > Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life > completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we havededicated > most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of a computer > monitor ;) > > Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settlethings

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> on the track. (Not Rouen) > See you... > > Mikkel > > >

Marko Aaltonen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90i6ab$db2$[email hidden]... > Well, I finally made it, after 5 odd months, I broke the elusive Papyrus > 0.00 benchmark time for the eleven tracks. As of 4.12.2000 my GPLRanking > is -0.71. Congrats... just beat the magic 0.00 two days ago after 5-6 months of driving. Damn that felt good ;) I'm right behind you at -0.44, looking to break the -5 barrier as soon as my new computer arrives in a couple of days. Looking forward to scramble madly downwards to the places currently held by Mr. Huttu and the rest of the -infinite guys... NOT ;) Mikkel

Well, I finally made it, after 5 odd months, I broke the elusive Papyrus 0.00 benchmark time for the eleven tracks. As of 4.12.2000 my GPLRanking is -0.71. How it came to be: I got the game when it first came out and with my trusty old Voodoo 2 the game ran quite nicely on a Celery oc@450. Yet I had no patience to drive even one clean lap. Spin after spin after spin, how can a game be so frustrating? But even so, it was fun just to put pedal to the metal while the Ferrari's engine screamed for help, beatifull sound the original one, still in use btw. Then as I upgraded my system I sold the voodoo and the TNT1 was left on the system. Couldn't play the game anymore, only software and that was undriveable, time went on and the OpengGL patch came, was thrilled to try it again but did not know how to make it work well in OpenGL so the game was left to dust on the shelves. Another system upgrade and know, a brand spanking new GeForce DDR, some tweaks and the OpenGL mode at 640x480 and 2xFSAA the game was playable, not good but playable. And again, some time went on... Then the light shone to my dark PC when Papy released the D3D rasterizer. Oooh, 1600x1200 resolution with 2xFSAA, yes quite playable! Now it was the time to start finding those missing seconds and completed laps without outings to the fenceline...also had to buy a new FF wheel, my choice was the Guillemot Ferrari wheel, a good buy. At first I began driving Watkins Glen on third gear only and the goal was just to stay on track and learn it. It was difficult to restrain oneself not to drive like you drive with those arcade racers (Colin McRae had a perhaps bad influence :) ). I had to learn to brake well before the corner to leak some speed off, not easy when you are just a beginner, but I was proud of myself when I got the Glen's times down to 1.16 minutes, but also wondering how in the hell the fastest times were over ten seconds faster, I surely didn't know how I could drive any faster. It seemed to me that I was doing everything possible, I accelerated to the max, I braked as hard as I could and still the times weren't getting any better, aarrgghhh! The problem was that I braked too late, drifted wide and couldn't get on the gas quick enough, my lines were bad and so on. At Glen my PB is still at the slower side of things 1.06.21 but I'm quite happy with it. To get a negative ranking, a series of learning cycles went by. Learnt to brake better, started to pay more attention to lines, more restraint with the gas pedal and so on. My first ranking when I got thru driving all the tracks was somewhere over 120 and and wondering if I had the patience to concentrate to practice more. I mostly drove around 3-30 laps per day, depending on the track. With that amount of driving the most advances were at the latter stages. At the end of september I had a ranking of 45 and just three weeks ago it was 30 and I was stuck at 8.40 at the Ring. But things started to get together and was able to pull off 8.26, what a joy! But hardest track for me was Spa. Few corners and if you messed one you messed the whole lap, hate the track still, though there is some light at the end of the tunnel, when you learn the lines and turn in earlier at the fast corners you'll do fine, maybe I'll try it more but 8.21.xx is enough at the moment. I would like to thank Greger for his setups, I only added some fuel to do my hotlapping as I not a very consistant driver, this way I dont need to Shift-R after every second lap. No Internet connection from home so no online racing, what a shame. Setups made the game for me at the latter stages, especilally Greger's Kyalami track with the Eagle, I finally found the way of controlling the car with gas and brake, fun. Now I'm officially hooked, love the game, hopefully I'll continue to love it more. Thanks for reading, Marko Aaltonen

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:40:53 +0200, "Marko Aaltonen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Now I'm officially hooked, love the game, hopefully I'll continue to love it >more. Congratulations! Enjoy the feeling while you can, since -if you're anything like me- you'll be itching to crack the -5, -10, -20 barriers soon enough! Martin Long Live Nigel Mansell!

Well then, I would better start practising the ol' mighty 'Ring. You've got me on that track, congrats! I'll checking your progress as I added you to my buddy list. Seeya Marko Mikkel Gram-Hansen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90in86$4vk$[email hidden]...

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> Marko Aaltonen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:90i6ab$db2$[email hidden]... > > Well, I finally made it, after 5 odd months, I broke the elusive Papyrus > > 0.00 benchmark time for the eleven tracks. As of 4.12.2000 my GPLRanking > > is -0.71. > > Congrats... just beat the magic 0.00 two days ago after 5-6 months of > driving. Damn that felt good ;) > I'm right behind you at -0.44, looking to break the -5 barrier as soon as

my > new computer arrives in a couple of days. > > Looking forward to scramble madly downwards to the places currently heldby

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> Mr. Huttu and the rest of the -infinite guys... NOT ;) > > Mikkel > > > >

Thanks, Yes I'm afraid that it allready itches a helluva lot and I'm anxious to get back to my pc and start scratching...heh, -29.51 is pretty respectable, it'll take some time but I'll get there! Cheers, Marko GPLRank -0.71 Martin Ursua <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a2cd52f.100683991@news... > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:40:53 +0200, "Marko Aaltonen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Now I'm officially hooked, love the game, hopefully I'll continue to loveit

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> >more. > > Congratulations! Enjoy the feeling while you can, since -if > you're anything like me- you'll be itching to crack the -5, -10, -20 > barriers soon enough! > > Martin > Long Live Nigel Mansell!

The game is unbelievably addictive. I've got it three weeks ago and unfortunately I have the big deadline at work at the same time, so for the last 3 weeks my life goes as 14 hours at work, 4 hours at GPL and 6 hours for everything else. How long can GPL addict last in this mode? Alex. [email hidden] (Mikkel Gram-Hansen) wrote in <90j6bc$n2t$[email hidden]>:

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>EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I think I'm gonna be sick... :) >> Eldred >> -- >> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >> GPL hcp. +44.17 > >I somehow think you have missed the most important point in alle this >RankRage.... people who actually have a social life are doomed to remain >on the positive side of 0.00. > >Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life >completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we have >dedicated most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of >a computer monitor ;) > >Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settle >things on the track. (Not Rouen) >See you... > >Mikkel > > >

Disgruntled Goat <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I can tell you, I am not relaxed. These games... they've taken over. > And I love it. > DG Amen.... Or to quote the most used line of stand up comedians: "It's sooo funny coz its true" By the way Fallout 3 is on the way...wooohoooo. GPL, WSC, Fallout3, Insane... Now my girlfriend will leave me for sure, and I'll probably go bankrupt... but who cares ?? Mikkel http://www.simracing.dk

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Disgruntled Goat) writes:

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>Hehe. Yeah, I remember when I played games to relax. Hammering out of >the Parabolica as you jam it into third, straightening up for fourth, >hitting fifth just at the line - you feel pretty good, right? Top lap >- "Surely I got in under 1.30 that time!". Then you come back around >and the pitboard STILL has 1:30.xx on it... you scream, perhaps pound >the wheel a couple of times and wonder WHERE IN THE HELL IS THAT ONE >SECOND! Your flatmate knocks on the door and asks if everything is ok. > >Pfft. I ain't relaxed. >

The Ring has been getting under my skin lately...3 laps yesterday. On the first lap, I spun VERY early in the lap, and got pissed off. Finished the lap - 8:50.xx. I thought great - that was even with a screwup... Second lap - Clean! I'm figuring that's at LEAST an 8:40. Pitboard says...8:51. WTF?!? Third lap - I'm still puzzled and pissed off by the second lap. I spun again about halfway through<many expletives follow...> Get the pitboard - 8:45.xx. Huh? - that's a second faster than my PB... I still don't see how a good lap can be so slow... I must have made up a TON of time on the 1st and 3rd laps, but I have to figure out WHERE... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Alright <still chucklin'> ! Great BIG hug and lotsa :o))) Disgruntled Goat <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [email hidden]... > On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:41:47 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Right now I haven't got time for too many games... But Fallout2, X-Com,GP2 > >& Rally Championship 2000 have all taken their toll on my social lifewhen

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> >they came out. > > > >For the first time in my computer owning days (my ZX81 back at age 10) I > >find my self plying ONE game exclusively... nothing else than GPL does it > >for me anymore. > >Nascar Heat was a good game, and very fun, but the AI problems kind of > >ruined my go at a championship season. > >I hope that "Insane" will grab my attention, I need a "FUN" game to > >relaxe... > > > > Hehe. Yeah, I remember when I played games to relax. Hammering out of > the Parabolica as you jam it into third, straightening up for fourth, > hitting fifth just at the line - you feel pretty good, right? Top lap > - "Surely I got in under 1.30 that time!". Then you come back around > and the pitboard STILL has 1:30.xx on it... you scream, perhaps pound > the wheel a couple of times and wonder WHERE IN THE HELL IS THAT ONE > SECOND! Your flatmate knocks on the door and asks if everything is ok. > > Pfft. I ain't relaxed. > > Ok, Nascar 3 time I decide. I'm better at it, I can actually win races > against the AI. So I decide to continue my run at the Busch > championship, tonight at Gateway, IL. Tough track, but when you get it > figured out right it's alot of fun. An hour later there's five laps > left. I'm first and second is trying to get by. traffic in front of > me. I'm having fun. White flag - I know if I can get this lapped car > behind me, i've got the win sorted. He hits Turn 1 a little high, > leaving the door open. I slide in there. He turns right into me, we > spin, my race is over. > > I am not relaxed. > > GP3. Still can't get the twisty section of InterLagos right, despite > having first raced there in GP1 way back when. If it's not too much > wing it's too little, or too much brake or not enough. Sometimes I run > through there perfectly - never twice in a row though. Still not > relaxed. > > I decide to get away from the computer and think a run to the store is > in order. I get in the car. Jim Clark's spirit is still with me. I'm > picking the best line through turns and roundabouts, changing gears > like i'm playing GPL. The "section" by the lagoon (on the way to the > convenience store) is great, a sort of long S bend, and late at night > theres never anyone nearby. So I take the racing line, at racing speed > (well, OK i'm doing about 60kph but i'm in the zone, man). I see a car > up ahead... takes me a second or two to come back to reality and stop > planning my passing manouvere. "Move it you old bastard" I scream - > not knowing the age or gender of the driver in front, not that they > could hear me anyway - I hate people that take the speed limit so damn > literally. Nope, still tense. > I buy some snacks and "race" back home - it's time to work on my lap > at the Glen, after of course taking the Lagoon Section from the even > more exhilirating south end back home (you could conceivebly put it in > the water this way. The other side of the road is just a park). > > Eventually the Glen pisses me off too, and it's bed time. Chances are > i'll lie awake a while wondering where to shake that second or two, or > revising my tyre strategy for Rockingham, or pondering the setup that > will see me nail InterLagos consistently and not be a championship > also-ran by round 2. > > I can tell you, I am not relaxed. These games... they've taken over. > And I love it. > > DG >

In article <90j9j5$f5e$03$[email hidden]>, "J�rg Gallert" <[email hidden]> writes: >Anyway I never have heard about a game (sorry : SIM) that keeps alive for >over TWO YEARS !!!! >And I never heard about one that threatens with such strong addiction as >does GPL. For hours, days, months and years ! You ever play Starcraft? That's ANOTHER addicting game, along with The Sims...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <90j6bc$n2t$[email hidden]>, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I think I'm gonna be sick... :) >> Eldred >> -- >> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 >> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >> GPL hcp. +44.17 > >I somehow think you have missed the most important point in alle this >RankRage.... people who actually have a social life are doomed to remain on >the positive side of 0.00. > >Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life >completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we have dedicated >most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of a computer >monitor ;) > >Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settle things >on the track. (Not Rouen) >See you...

I have vacation coming up. I'll be off Dec 18 to Jan 2nd...<evil grin> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Right now I haven't got time for too many games... But Fallout2, X-Com, GP2 & Rally Championship 2000 have all taken their toll on my social life when they came out. For the first time in my computer owning days (my ZX81 back at age 10) I find my self plying ONE game exclusively... nothing else than GPL does it for me anymore. Nascar Heat was a good game, and very fun, but the AI problems kind of ruined my go at a championship season. I hope that "Insane" will grab my attention, I need a "FUN" game to relaxe... Mikkel EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <90j9j5$f5e$03$[email hidden]>, "J�rg Gallert" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Anyway I never have heard about a game (sorry : SIM) that keeps alive for > >over TWO YEARS !!!! > >And I never heard about one that threatens with such strong addiction as > >does GPL. For hours, days, months and years ! > > You ever play Starcraft? That's ANOTHER addicting game, along with The > Sims...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +44.17 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

26 hours in a day where you're at?? -Gotta move there... imagine, two hours a day to play GPL!! -I'd be negative in a month!! BTW: you'd be surprised how long you can go on an 18 hour a day activity schedule. Join the army some day and find out.<g> Jan./who seriously doubts he'll be able to go negative on GPLRank at all, even when given two hours a day to practise. =--- Alex wrote... > <snip> > How long can GPL addict last in this mode? > > Alex.

Either I am working too much to be able to count or you work even more than me:) Alex. [email hidden] (Jan Verschueren) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >26 hours in a day where you're at?? -Gotta move there... imagine, two >hours a day to play GPL!! -I'd be negative in a month!! >> <snip>

Ok Eldred, you gotta stop improving at the 'Ring like that. Please switch to Starcraft or whatever. <g> It's the only place where I've got a number of seconds on you. At this rate, I'm going to be back in St. Eldred's Cup real soon. I wish I knew how you get around Mosport so fast. Sigh, my home track and I suck at it... BTW, despite my suggestion to you a while ago about using the automatic shifting, I've gone the other way and tried manual shifting. I think it's helped lower some of my times, although I've had some amusing incidents - such as quickly ripping down through the gears for the hairpin at Spa, only to end up in reverse. Oops, too many clicks. Where's that damn lockout??? ...Klinn "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > The Ring has been getting under my skin lately...3 laps yesterday. On the > first lap, I spun VERY early in the lap, and got pissed off. Finished thelap > - 8:50.xx. I thought great - that was even with a screwup... Second lap - > Clean! I'm figuring that's at LEAST an 8:40. Pitboard says...8:51.WTF?!? > Third lap - I'm still puzzled and pissed off by the second lap. I spunagain > about halfway through<many expletives follow...> Get the pitboard -8:45.xx. > Huh? - that's a second faster than my PB... > I still don't see how a good lap can be so slow... I must have made up aTON > of time on the 1st and 3rd laps, but I have to figure out WHERE... > > Eldred

In article <fOzX5.4289$[email hidden]>, "Klinn" <[email hidden]> writes: >Ok Eldred, you gotta stop improving at the 'Ring like that. Please switch to >Starcraft or whatever. <g> >In the past 3 months or so, I've gotten sidetracked by Starcraft, The Sims, and ReVolt. I've also spent some time with NHeat, but not as much since I bought the retail version. I don't have GP3 yet, maybe someone will send it to me as a distraction...? <g> >It's the only place where I've got a number of seconds on you. At this rate, >I'm going to be back in St. Eldred's Cup real soon. I wish I knew how you >get around Mosport so fast. Sigh, my home track and I suck at it... > You think my time at Mosport is FAST?!? Bwahahahaha....! :) I wish. I'm just hoping I can gain some time during my christmas vacation... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +44.17 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Mikkel Gram-Hansen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life >completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we have dedicated >most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of a computer >monitor ;) Life is overrated :P What I would like to know is if there are any positive-rank drivers in VROC servers. I'm pretty satisfied with my progress and lap records in most tracks, but every time I race online most of the people run 1-2 seconds faster and I feel like a moving roadblock. Sigh. >Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settle things >on the track. (Not Rouen) >See you... Heh, Rouen is one of the "where the hell is that second?" tracks. I can do 2:00-2:01 laps with no problems, but pushing it below 2:00 is rare. Same thing with Monza and 1:30. Someone tell me where the hidden speed setting is in core.ini. - topi (GPLRank: +32.28) -- http://www.iki.fi/tjp/

On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:41:47 +0100, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Right now I haven't got time for too many games... But Fallout2, X-Com, GP2 >& Rally Championship 2000 have all taken their toll on my social life when >they came out. > >For the first time in my computer owning days (my ZX81 back at age 10) I >find my self plying ONE game exclusively... nothing else than GPL does it >for me anymore. >Nascar Heat was a good game, and very fun, but the AI problems kind of >ruined my go at a championship season. >I hope that "Insane" will grab my attention, I need a "FUN" game to >relaxe... >

Hehe. Yeah, I remember when I played games to relax. Hammering out of the Parabolica as you jam it into third, straightening up for fourth, hitting fifth just at the line - you feel pretty good, right? Top lap - "Surely I got in under 1.30 that time!". Then you come back around and the pitboard STILL has 1:30.xx on it... you scream, perhaps pound the wheel a couple of times and wonder WHERE IN THE HELL IS THAT ONE SECOND! Your flatmate knocks on the door and asks if everything is ok. Pfft. I ain't relaxed. Ok, Nascar 3 time I decide. I'm better at it, I can actually win races against the AI. So I decide to continue my run at the Busch championship, tonight at Gateway, IL. Tough track, but when you get it figured out right it's alot of fun. An hour later there's five laps left. I'm first and second is trying to get by. traffic in front of me. I'm having fun. White flag - I know if I can get this lapped car behind me, i've got the win sorted. He hits Turn 1 a little high, leaving the door open. I slide in there. He turns right into me, we spin, my race is over. I am not relaxed. GP3. Still can't get the twisty section of InterLagos right, despite having first raced there in GP1 way back when. If it's not too much wing it's too little, or too much brake or not enough. Sometimes I run through there perfectly - never twice in a row though. Still not relaxed. I decide to get away from the computer and think a run to the store is in order. I get in the car. Jim Clark's spirit is still with me. I'm picking the best line through turns and roundabouts, changing gears like i'm playing GPL. The "section" by the lagoon (on the way to the convenience store) is great, a sort of long S bend, and late at night theres never anyone nearby. So I take the racing line, at racing speed (well, OK i'm doing about 60kph but i'm in the zone, man). I see a car up ahead... takes me a second or two to come back to reality and stop planning my passing manouvere. "Move it you old bastard" I scream - not knowing the age or gender of the driver in front, not that they could hear me anyway - I hate people that take the speed limit so damn literally. Nope, still tense. I buy some snacks and "race" back home - it's time to work on my lap at the Glen, after of course taking the Lagoon Section from the even more exhilirating south end back home (you could conceivebly put it in the water this way. The other side of the road is just a park). Eventually the Glen pisses me off too, and it's bed time. Chances are i'll lie awake a while wondering where to shake that second or two, or revising my tyre strategy for Rockingham, or pondering the setup that will see me nail InterLagos consistently and not be a championship also-ran by round 2. I can tell you, I am not relaxed. These games... they've taken over. And I love it. DG

On 06 Dec 2000 17:42:20 GMT, EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: > >I still don't see how a good lap can be so slow... I must have made up a TON >of time on the 1st and 3rd laps, but I have to figure out WHERE... Have you tried using GPLReplayAnalyser to compare those laps ? Granted, at the 'Ring, it's not a fun task, but if you really want to know where you're making/losing time, it's the only way to go. That and maybe GPLSpyGirl (allowing you to merge two replays and watch the result in GPL). Richard. -- Richard Bellavance Enter-Net Inc. Phone: (450) 449-5261 #16 Systems Administrator/ (514) 990-1683 #16 Analyst-Programmer Fax: (450) 449-5242

On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:45:12 GMT, Topi Paavola <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Heh, Rouen is one of the "where the hell is that second?" tracks. I can >do 2:00-2:01 laps with no problems, but pushing it below 2:00 is rare. >Same thing with Monza and 1:30. Someone tell me where the hidden speed >setting is in core.ini. In my experience, there are 3 critical turns at Rouen (in order you see them on the track, not necessarily of importance): 1. The first turn. You must carry as much speed as possible through here. 2. Beauval (a.k.a. the sharpish right before that looooooooong straight with the kink in it). With such a stretch of high speed road ahead, exit from this corner is critical. 3. Paradis (a.k.a. the last turn). This can be taken much faster then you think, if you turn in earlier than you think you should :-) Again, there's a fairly long straight after, so carrying speed and getting a fast exit is crucial. These three turns also have someting else in common: you cannot get through them really fast if you're "off-throttle" going through. You absolutely must be on the gas (just slightly), otherwise the back end of the car will kinda "drag you off" the line. Once you turn-in for these, you should be giving just enough throttle to keep a constant speed (accelerating at the apex, of course). Hope this helps, Richard. -- Richard Bellavance Enter-Net Inc. Phone: (450) 449-5261 #16 Systems Administrator/ (514) 990-1683 #16 Analyst-Programmer Fax: (450) 449-5242

On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 07:45:12 GMT, [email hidden] (Topi Paavola) wrote:

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>Mikkel Gram-Hansen <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Be happy that you have yet to let this "game" take over your life >>completely.... we (the subzero's) are not to be envied, as we have dedicated >>most of our waking hours to turning a small wheel in front of a computer >>monitor ;) > >Life is overrated :P > >What I would like to know is if there are any positive-rank drivers in >VROC servers. I'm pretty satisfied with my progress and lap records in >most tracks, but every time I race online most of the people run 1-2 >seconds faster and I feel like a moving roadblock. Sigh. > >>Next time i see you in VROC, i'll join your server and we can settle things >>on the track. (Not Rouen) >>See you... > >Heh, Rouen is one of the "where the hell is that second?" tracks. I can >do 2:00-2:01 laps with no problems, but pushing it below 2:00 is rare. >Same thing with Monza and 1:30. Someone tell me where the hidden speed >setting is in core.ini. >

I just can't work it out. I run what I consider a "perfect lap" and it's somewhere between 1:30 and 1:32. I see the top guns on GPL rank doing it in 1:26.I don't think i'm doing much wrong, but there must be something i'm not doing right. Oh well, it's 9:30pm time for another few laps... anyone who saw my post from last night knows how the rest of my night is going to go ;-) DG >- topi (GPLRank: +32.28) >-- >http://www.iki.fi/tjp/

I think he means that you should compare your laps to each other, not to other people's. If you're like me, I never do a lap the same way twice, but if I were to piece together my fastest section times from different laps I'd have some reasonably quick laps (for me anyway). So compare those two Ring laps and to see where you were faster and then play the replays to see what you did differently in those sections (i.e. line, braking points, when and how you picked up the throttle, etc.). Then hopefully you can put together a single lap containing your "fastest sections" , (I know, its easier said than done ;)). This works for the shorter tracks as well. ;) Ken PS While searching dejanews for some gpl setting info, I ran across a post of yours from 1999 saying that you couldn't break 1:30 at Monza or 10 minutes at the Ring in a lifetime. Hmmm.... so you've been reborn/reincarnated twice since 1999? :-) EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Richard Bellavance) writes: > > >On 06 Dec 2000 17:42:20 GMT, EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >>I still don't see how a good lap can be so slow... I must have made up a > >TON > >>of time on the 1st and 3rd laps, but I have to figure out WHERE... > > > >Have you tried using GPLReplayAnalyser to compare those laps ? > >Granted, at the 'Ring, it's not a fun task, but if you really want > >to know where you're making/losing time, it's the only way to go. > > > >That and maybe GPLSpyGirl (allowing you to merge two replays and > >watch the result in GPL). > > Hehe... > All I see is that others are faster EVERYWHERE...<g> They carry more speed in > the corners, they pull away on straights. Simple, really - but it doesn't help > me get faster. :) > Maybe I'm just looking at/for the wrong things... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +40.48 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Ken MacKay Halifax, Canada GPL F1 Handicap +64.63 GPL F3 handicap +367.61 "Just when I think I've heard the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking." Hank Hill

In article <[email hidden]>, Ken MacKay <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I think he means that you should compare your laps to each other, not to >other >people's. If you're like me, I never do a lap the same way twice, but if I >were to >piece together my fastest section times from different laps I'd have some >reasonably quick laps (for me anyway). So compare those two Ring laps and >to see >where you were faster and then play the replays to see what you did >differently in >those sections (i.e. line, braking points, when and how you picked up the >throttle, etc.). Then hopefully you can put together a single lap containing >your >"fastest sections" , (I know, its easier said than done ;)). >

Christmas vacation...

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>This works for the shorter tracks as well. ;) > >Ken > >PS While searching dejanews for some gpl setting info, I ran across a post >of >yours from 1999 saying that you couldn't break 1:30 at Monza or 10 minutes at >the >Ring in a lifetime. Hmmm.... so you've been reborn/reincarnated twice since >1999? >:-)

I want a recount! <g> I honestly said that? I can see saying it about Monza, because I couldn't IMAGINE going under 1:30(only did it very recently). But my problems getting under 10 minutes at the Ring were due to constant lawnmowing and bumper cars... I can, however, state that I don't think I'll ever get under 8 minutes at the Ring. I see my probable limit as somewhere between 8:20 and 8:30, but I don't know how I'm gonna GET there yet... :) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +40.48 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hi Eldred - Well, your Mosport time is FAST compared to mine! For some reason I have real troubles at that track. And my Kyalami time is (relatively speaking) even worse. (1:23.65) I get verrrry frustrated in South Africa... I'd be glad to send you my GP3 to distract you, but it's going to a friend next week for him to try. He's another one who's started to come down with the GPL bug, although for some reason he insists on putting aside time for his family. What's that all about??? My recent distractions have been more in the 'action' category (Elite Force, Crimson Skies, No One Lives Forever) rather than your 'strategy' titles - it keeps those twitch reflexes tuned so I can catch the power-on oversteer. <g> ...Klinn (Non-Steroid-Assisted GPL Rank +25.40) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In the past 3 months or so, I've gotten sidetracked by Starcraft, TheSims, and > ReVolt. I've also spent some time with NHeat, but not as much since Ibought > the retail version. I don't have GP3 yet, maybe someone will send it tome as > a distraction...? <g> > > You think my time at Mosport is FAST?!? Bwahahahaha....! :) > I wish. I'm just hoping I can gain some time during my christmasvacation... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +44.17

In article <m6gY5.8902$[email hidden]>, "Klinn" <[email hidden]> writes: >Hi Eldred - Well, your Mosport time is FAST compared to mine! For some >reason I have real troubles at that track. And my Kyalami time is >(relatively speaking) even worse. (1:23.65) I get verrrry frustrated in >South Africa... >If you want, I'll send you my replay. I don't know how it could HELP, though...<g> >I'd be glad to send you my GP3 to distract you, but it's going to a friend >next week for him to try. He's another one who's started to come down with >the GPL bug, although for some reason he insists on putting aside time for >his family. What's that all about??? Family? Dunno - I'm still single... :( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +40.48 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.