Re: Colin McRae Rally 2 out on Dec 8th!!!!

Jay J wrote on 07 Dec 2000: >I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It >came out on the Playstation today<snip> At least you haven't had to endure, as we Brits have, months of seeing just the Playstation version on the shelves... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Just got the game in the UK the manual lists an in-car view, I'll confirm this when I've installed it. Andi. David L. Cook <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find > CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I > doubt it... > > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > wrote... > > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:16:41 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It

came > > >out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USAas

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> > >an import about a week to 10 days after that! > > > > > >Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > > > > > >Jay J > > > > I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way > > too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are > > way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more > > enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic > > than CMII. > > > > Andre > > > >

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> > Can't help you, but other people told me they have the same problems > like you. Why don't you try DX7a or some older V3 drivers? > I read that the newest V3 drivers also cause problems with B17II, so I > waited a bit with installing those drivers... If it ain't broken don't > fix it :) >

yeah, I've had to go back to 1.05.02 beta drivers to sort it out and it's ace cheers anyway sa w

If you can find a warez site with it, you can download it. It was "released" today. Check www.isonews.com for warez games that have been released, as they are released. Luke -=87=- Jay J <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JaEX5.292974$[email hidden]... > I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! Itcame

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> out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as > an import about a week to 10 days after that! > > Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > > Jay J > > > >

I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It came out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as an import about a week to 10 days after that! Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! Jay J

On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:16:41 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It came >out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as >an import about a week to 10 days after that! > >Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > >Jay J

I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic than CMII. Andre

Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I doubt it... In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote...

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> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:16:41 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It came > >out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as > >an import about a week to 10 days after that! > > > >Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > > > >Jay J > > I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way > too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are > way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more > enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic > than CMII. > > Andre >

In article <[email hidden]>, David L. Cook <[email hidden]> writes >Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find >CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I >doubt it... >The review in the latest PC Gamer says it has got a cockpit view, although are still no screenshots. It says "The cockpit view is now beautifully rendered in true 3D." It also says that the interiors are as accurate as the exteriors so it is possible to recognise the different models just from the interior mouldings. They gave it 89% BTW. -- Sean Black

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:44:35 -0500, David L. Cook <[email hidden]> wrote: >Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find >CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I >doubt it... I am referring to CMR2. It has a cockpit view. FPS was pretty lousy on my PIII500 V3 3000 by the way, in 800x600 resolution. All details were set to high, but to me it seems like a bad PS port when I compare it to the smooth fps of F1CS2000, in 1024 res with 21 cars on the field. Graphical RC2000 looks much better while RC2000 even has a much smoother framerate compared to CMR2. Andre

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:27:43 +0100, "Bertel Bolt-J" <>>[email hidden]<<> wrote:

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>It does have cockpitview, photorealism, nice handling, three axis support, >force feedback that tells you the caracter of the road (gravel, tarmac etc.) >and did i mention nice handling. I really doent get the hype sorrounding >RC2000 but anyway. Codemasters has (in my oppinion) yet again merged arcade >fun with simulation longevity to a beatyfull cocktail. The sensation of >speed is phenomenal. > >by the way it was out in Denmark yesterday. > >-- >Bertel S. Bolt-J�rgensen > >http://home1.stofanet.dk/bertel >http://www.daimi.au.dk/~dysse

Glad you enjoy it. We can discuss about the realism of the handling (it handles nice, but imho not realistic) but photorealism? Check out RC2000 for photorealism :)) It supports 3 axis, but unfortunately not 2 devices, so I can't use my CH pedals :( Andre

It's been out in the UK on the Playstation for a couple of months. The PC version DOES have an in car view. http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2ukst1seat.jpg http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2itast1corolla.jpg http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2finst1peu206.jpg http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2aust1focus.jpg http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2frast1mitsu.jpg http://home.hetnet.nl/~paulvh/cmr2kenyast1subaru.jpg From the High Gear CMR2 forum Kev "David L. Cook" wrote:

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> > Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find > CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I > doubt it... > > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > wrote... > > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:16:41 GMT, "Jay J" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! It came > > >out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as > > >an import about a week to 10 days after that! > > > > > >Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > > > > > >Jay J > > > > I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way > > too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are > > way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more > > enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic > > than CMII. > > > > Andre > >

It does have cockpitview, photorealism, nice handling, three axis support, force feedback that tells you the caracter of the road (gravel, tarmac etc.) and did i mention nice handling. I really doent get the hype sorrounding RC2000 but anyway. Codemasters has (in my oppinion) yet again merged arcade fun with simulation longevity to a beatyfull cocktail. The sensation of speed is phenomenal. by the way it was out in Denmark yesterday. -- Bertel S. Bolt-J�rgensen http://home1.stofanet.dk/bertel http://www.daimi.au.dk/~dysse

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR ? "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JaEX5.292974$[email hidden]... > I just heard that CMR2 will be available on the PC on December 8th! Itcame

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> out on the Playstation today, so it should be available here in the USA as > an import about a week to 10 days after that! > > Just in time for Christmas! Wa Hooo! > > Jay J > > > >

Hi > I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way > too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are > way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more > enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic > than CMII. > I got CMR2 for the PC in a shop in town (Cheltenham, UK) yesterday - I have had it on the Playstation since it came out - great gameplay, shit graphics. So the wait has been long. Worse still, I also saw the (PC based) Ford simulator version at the International Autosport show in January and played on it 3 months ago when the Ford Rally tour thing came to town. First off, I have to say I think it is the best rally game you can get, having played (in my current order of preference) Rally Masters, RC2000, Ubisoft 2001 (demo), VRally 2 IMO, for all of RC2000's graphical retentiveness it still plays like a brick even with the latest patch. It may be 100% accurate in pure physics terms for all I know but it is just doesn't feel, or even look, right especially when the cars lose contact with the ground. I just find CMR2 is so much more satisfying.... apart from it's locking up - after about 5 secs on any stage, in any car, all camera angles, arcade and rally mode - on my p3-450, 128 Mb RAM, Windows ME, Directx8, Voodoo 3 3000 (latest drivers 1.07.00). The game just freezes and the only way out is the reset button I know those specs don't quite make the recommended but I've also tested it on a p2-350, 256 Mb RAM, Windows 98SE, ATI Rage Pro at work and it is fine. We've even been playing LAN games. Obviously it doesn't look as good, but it does run I suspect it's Directx8 that's the problem although I've been playing lots of games recently on my current setup - Rally Masters, RC2000, GTA, ST Voyager Elite Force, NFSP2000 I would appreciate any ideas or confirmation from someone who is running on similar hardware. cheers sa w

David L. Cook <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Where did you try CMR2? Are you referring to CMR? If you did find > CMR2, did it have a cockpit view? Not a single screenshot of one so I > doubt it... Check out the screenshots on the Codemaster site...there is a cockpit view. -- don New Programmes for the Converted GPL Tracks http://www.ianparker1.plus.com/gpl/bapom/

Well i know that RC2000 is very popular. Maybe its GPL that has ruined racing for me. If it powerslides, I like it. Nothing beats going sideways through corners. The ability to feel the surface in your wheel greatly adds imersion to the game. You can actually feel when you are leaving the road and are riding on the shoulder of it instead. Great fun. -- Bertel S. Bolt-J�rgensen http://home1.stofanet.dk/bertel http://www.daimi.au.dk/~dysse "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:27:43 +0100, "Bertel Bolt-J" > <>>[email hidden]<<> wrote: > > >It does have cockpitview, photorealism, nice handling, three axis support, > >force feedback that tells you the caracter of the road (gravel, tarmac etc.) > >and did i mention nice handling. I really doent get the hype sorrounding > >RC2000 but anyway. Codemasters has (in my oppinion) yet again merged arcade > >fun with simulation longevity to a beatyfull cocktail. The sensation of > >speed is phenomenal. > > > >by the way it was out in Denmark yesterday. > > > >-- > >Bertel S. Bolt-J�rgensen > > > >http://home1.stofanet.dk/bertel > >http://www.daimi.au.dk/~dysse > > Glad you enjoy it. We can discuss about the realism of the handling > (it handles nice, but imho not realistic) but photorealism? > Check out RC2000 for photorealism :)) > It supports 3 axis, but unfortunately not 2 devices, so I can't use my > CH pedals :( > > Andre

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:09:06 -0000, "SAW" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I suspect it's Directx8 that's the problem although I've been playing lots >of games recently on my current setup - Rally Masters, RC2000, GTA, ST >Voyager Elite Force, NFSP2000 > >I would appreciate any ideas or confirmation from someone who is running on >similar hardware. > >cheers > >sa >w

Can't help you, but other people told me they have the same problems like you. Why don't you try DX7a or some older V3 drivers? I read that the newest V3 drivers also cause problems with B17II, so I waited a bit with installing those drivers... If it ain't broken don't fix it :) Andre

On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:52:21 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>I am referring to CMR2. It has a cockpit view. >FPS was pretty lousy on my PIII500 V3 3000 by the way, in 800x600 >resolution. All details were set to high, but to me it seems like a >bad PS port when I compare it to the smooth fps of F1CS2000, in 1024 >res with 21 cars on the field. >Graphical RC2000 looks much better while RC2000 even has a much >smoother framerate compared to CMR2. > >Andre

I have to take back some words here about the fps. The default 'draw ahead' setting is 2. Maximum setting is 9 so I set it to 7. I like to see what's ahead while racing :) This evening I played with the options, set the 'draw ahead' to 3 and the fps got lots better. Still I think that the graphics are nothing spectaculair. Andre

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>On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:52:21 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) >wrote: > >>I am referring to CMR2. It has a cockpit view. >>FPS was pretty lousy on my PIII500 V3 3000 by the way, in 800x600 >>resolution. All details were set to high, but to me it seems like a >>bad PS port when I compare it to the smooth fps of F1CS2000, in 1024 >>res with 21 cars on the field. >>Graphical RC2000 looks much better while RC2000 even has a much >>smoother framerate compared to CMR2. >> >>Andre > >I have to take back some words here about the fps. The default 'draw >ahead' setting is 2. Maximum setting is 9 so I set it to 7. I like to >see what's ahead while racing :) >This evening I played with the options, set the 'draw ahead' to 3 and >the fps got lots better. Still I think that the graphics are nothing >spectaculair. > >Andre

Don't you think the car graphics are the best ever? I love the integrale in cmr2.

Got the same problem, CMR2 locks up completely on first curve in any race. Setup: P-II 450 128 Megs Ram Voodoo 3 3000 AGP SB 128 PCI Win 98 DirectX 8 Latest voodoo drivers I definately guess something's going on with the V3... Game works fine on ati and GeForce2..... Grrr!!! Welcome to the Patch-O-Rama festival!!! In article <90ocp2$6im$[email hidden]>, "SAW" says...

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> >Hi > >> I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae II too much - imho it's way >> too arcade. The car is weaving all over the place and the roads are >> way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short, I found RC2000 much more >> enjoyable to play. And with the latest patch RC2000 IS more realistic >> than CMII. >> > >I got CMR2 for the PC in a shop in town (Cheltenham, UK) yesterday - I have >had it on the Playstation since it came out - great gameplay, shit graphics. > >So the wait has been long. Worse still, I also saw the (PC based) Ford >simulator version at the International Autosport show in January and played >on it 3 months ago when the Ford Rally tour thing came to town. > >First off, I have to say I think it is the best rally game you can get, >having played (in my current order of preference) Rally Masters, RC2000, >Ubisoft 2001 (demo), VRally 2 > >IMO, for all of RC2000's graphical retentiveness it still plays like a brick >even with the latest patch. It may be 100% accurate in pure physics terms >for all I know but it is just doesn't feel, or even look, right especially >when the cars lose contact with the ground. > >I just find CMR2 is so much more satisfying.... > >apart from it's locking up - after about 5 secs on any stage, in any car, >all camera angles, arcade and rally mode - on my p3-450, 128 Mb RAM, >Windows ME, Directx8, Voodoo 3 3000 (latest drivers 1.07.00). The game just >freezes and the only way out is the reset button > >I know those specs don't quite make the recommended but I've also tested it >on a p2-350, 256 Mb RAM, Windows 98SE, ATI Rage Pro at work and it is fine. >We've even been playing LAN games. Obviously it doesn't look as good, but it >does run > >I suspect it's Directx8 that's the problem although I've been playing lots >of games recently on my current setup - Rally Masters, RC2000, GTA, ST >Voyager Elite Force, NFSP2000 > >I would appreciate any ideas or confirmation from someone who is running on >similar hardware. > >cheers > >sa >w > > > >

Have similar problem , screen drops and machine frezzez after 3 rounds. P3 - 933 128Mb Ati Rage 128 Pro DirectX 7,7a,8 with CMR2 patch 105 Trond In article <[email hidden]>, Guillaume Carrier <[email hidden]> wrote: > Got the same problem, CMR2 locks up completelyon first curve in any race.

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> > Setup: > P-II 450 > 128 Megs Ram > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP > SB 128 PCI > Win 98 > DirectX 8 > Latest voodoo drivers > > I definately guess something's going on with

the V3... Game works fine on ati > and GeForce2..... Grrr!!! Welcome to the Patch-O-Rama festival!!! > > In article <90ocp2$6im$[email hidden]>, "SAW"says... > > > >Hi > > > >> I must say that I didn't like Colin McRae IItoo much - imho it's way > >> too arcade. The car is weaving all over theplace and the roads are > >> way bigger than in RC2000. To keep it short,I found RC2000 much more > >> enjoyable to play. And with the latest patchRC2000 IS more realistic > >> than CMII. > >> > > > >I got CMR2 for the PC in a shop in town(Cheltenham, UK) yesterday - I have > >had it on the Playstation since it came out -great gameplay, shit graphics. > > > >So the wait has been long. Worse still, I alsosaw the (PC based) Ford > >simulator version at the InternationalAutosport show in January and played > >on it 3 months ago when the Ford Rally tourthing came to town. > > > >First off, I have to say I think it is thebest rally game you can get, > >having played (in my current order ofpreference) Rally Masters, RC2000, > >Ubisoft 2001 (demo), VRally 2 > > > >IMO, for all of RC2000's graphicalretentiveness it still plays like a brick > >even with the latest patch. It may be 100%accurate in pure physics terms > >for all I know but it is just doesn't feel, oreven look, right especially > >when the cars lose contact with the ground. > > > >I just find CMR2 is so much more satisfying.... > > > >apart from it's locking up - after about 5secs on any stage, in any car, > >all camera angles, arcade and rally mode - onmy p3-450, 128 Mb RAM, > >Windows ME, Directx8, Voodoo 3 3000 (latestdrivers 1.07.00). The game just > >freezes and the only way out is the resetbutton > > > >I know those specs don't quite make therecommended but I've also tested it > >on a p2-350, 256 Mb RAM, Windows 98SE, ATIRage Pro at work and it is fine. > >We've even been playing LAN games. Obviouslyit doesn't look as good, but it > >does run > > > >I suspect it's Directx8 that's the problemalthough I've been playing lots > >of games recently on my current setup - RallyMasters, RC2000, GTA, ST > >Voyager Elite Force, NFSP2000 > > > >I would appreciate any ideas or confirmationfrom someone who is running on

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> >similar hardware. > > > >cheers > > > >sa > >w > > > > > > > > > >

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