What is F1CS 2000?

So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? Doug Gordon Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

F1CS2000 is a significant update to F1 2000 -- far more than a simple patch, though. Check out preview on the Blackhole Motorsports site for details: http://www.bhmotorsports.com/reviews/f1cs.htm Enjoy! -- JB In article <91363f$m30$[email hidden]>, Doug Gordon <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > Doug Gordon > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. >

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? Yes, basically it is, but EA will tell you it's a new game ;) But F1CS is by far the better game and also has the latest changes like the new Monza chicane and an upgraded Spa-Francorchamps. Also new is wet weather and better AI. So F1CS is basically an upgrade. A demo and a full list of features can be found at http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml. Hope that helps. -- Kenneth Verburg Editor-in-chief High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com

F1CS is what F12000 should have been. I object to EA's rushing of F12000, then asking me to pay again. I, hence, refuse to purchase from them Doug "Kenneth Verburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xs9Z5.4369$[email hidden]... > > So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > Yes, basically it is, but EA will tell you it's a new game ;) But F1CS isby

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> far the better game and also has the latest changes like the new Monza > chicane and an upgraded Spa-Francorchamps. Also new is wet weather and > better AI. So F1CS is basically an upgrade. A demo and a full list of > features can be found at > http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml. > > Hope that helps. > -- > Kenneth Verburg > Editor-in-chief High Gear > http://www.simracingnews.com > >

If you don't have either than F1CS 2000 is a good purchase, and I believe they have an agreement with Pepsi products that if you save the bottle tops you can get a discount off their (EA's) website.... If however you already have F1 2000, you can d/l the demo of F1CS 2000, then copy your tracks, cars, etc... over from the full install of F1 2000 (full install required to do this I believe, at least that's what I had and it worked), then go get the "No CD" patch from blackhole's website and voila!!! You've basically got F1CS 2000 for free! Well... sort of... There are some caveats, and it is buggy... Mine sometimes crashes to the desktop and you don't see the cars and track maps when you go to race, or practice a circuit, but hey... Since EA won't release a "patch" for F12000 to include the improved graphics frame-rate engine, this is the next best thing! In fact, it's perhaps even better than a patch, since you get an updated Indy track, weather conditions, and driving school too!!! Jay J "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IabZ5.6644$[email hidden]...

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> F1CS is what F12000 should have been. I object to EA's rushing of F12000, > then asking me to pay again. I, hence, refuse to purchase from them > > > Doug > > "Kenneth Verburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xs9Z5.4369$[email hidden]... > > > So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > > > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > > > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > > > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > > > Yes, basically it is, but EA will tell you it's a new game ;) But F1CS

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> by > > far the better game and also has the latest changes like the new Monza > > chicane and an upgraded Spa-Francorchamps. Also new is wet weather and > > better AI. So F1CS is basically an upgrade. A demo and a full list of > > features can be found at > > http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml. > > > > Hope that helps. > > -- > > Kenneth Verburg > > Editor-in-chief High Gear > > http://www.simracingnews.com > > > > > >

How exactly do you do this, Jay? I tried it, and applied to no cd patch to the demo, but I still can only get Indy... What are the specific files you need to copy? Thanks, Luis "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NcgZ5.4921$[email hidden]... > If you don't have either than F1CS 2000 is a good purchase, and I believe > they have an agreement with Pepsi products that if you save the bottletops > you can get a discount off their (EA's) website.... > > If however you already have F1 2000, you can d/l the demo of F1CS 2000,then > copy your tracks, cars, etc... over from the full install of F1 2000 (full > install required to do this I believe, at least that's what I had and it > worked), then go get the "No CD" patch from blackhole's website andvoila!!!

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> > You've basically got F1CS 2000 for free! Well... sort of... There are some > caveats, and it is buggy... Mine sometimes crashes to the desktop and you > don't see the cars and track maps when you go to race, or practice a > circuit, but hey... Since EA won't release a "patch" for F12000 to include > the improved graphics frame-rate engine, this is the next best thing! > > In fact, it's perhaps even better than a patch, since you get an updated > Indy track, weather conditions, and driving school too!!! > > Jay J > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IabZ5.6644$[email hidden]... > > F1CS is what F12000 should have been. I object to EA's rushing of

F12000,

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> > then asking me to pay again. I, hence, refuse to purchase from them > > > > > > Doug > > > > "Kenneth Verburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xs9Z5.4369$[email hidden]... > > > > So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > > > > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > > > > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > > > > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > > > > > Yes, basically it is, but EA will tell you it's a new game ;) But F1CS > is > > by > > > far the better game and also has the latest changes like the new Monza > > > chicane and an upgraded Spa-Francorchamps. Also new is wet weather and > > > better AI. So F1CS is basically an upgrade. A demo and a full list of > > > features can be found at > > > http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml. > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > -- > > > Kenneth Verburg > > > Editor-in-chief High Gear > > > http://www.simracingnews.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

Doug if you object to company's that 'rush' a product...methinks your future software purchases will become extremely intermitent. EA saw the market forces about 2 years ago. They purchased Sports Car GT, I believe, to quickly get a product out BEFORE Crammond and Hasbro could ship GP3. They KNEW Papyrus was not going to release another open wheel title, they knew Pygnosis has console-itis, they knew the latest version of F1RS(3) was due even later than GP3. So they did the one thing that could almost guarentee them being 'first to market' They bought an existing product (ISI's SCGT) and rather than start from the ground up(2 to 3 years...) they got something done in a very short time. (about 1 year from the time SCGT was released). True, F1CS2k is what F12k "should" have been. But would they have made as much profit, which in turn controls future development, if they waited til GP3 had been released, and months after the season is over, produce a year 2k sim title. We can bemoan the fact that SUITS are running and/or ruining software releases, but if a product doesn't make money...we won't see future improvements. Do you think Hasbro or Papyrus blinked when Nascar Heat was released? Papy pushed back thier release date and Hasbro Int. had to begin a patching program that still isn't completed. Market windows are often very tiny. A company sometimes has to be able to move quickly when an opening occurs. dave(here endeth the econ lesson) henrie "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IabZ5.6644$[email hidden]...

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> F1CS is what F12000 should have been. I object to EA's rushing of F12000, > then asking me to pay again. I, hence, refuse to purchase from them > > > Doug > > "Kenneth Verburg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xs9Z5.4369$[email hidden]... > > > So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > > > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > > > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > > > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > > > Yes, basically it is, but EA will tell you it's a new game ;) But F1CS

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> by > > far the better game and also has the latest changes like the new Monza > > chicane and an upgraded Spa-Francorchamps. Also new is wet weather and > > better AI. So F1CS is basically an upgrade. A demo and a full list of > > features can be found at > > http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml. > > > > Hope that helps. > > -- > > Kenneth Verburg > > Editor-in-chief High Gear > > http://www.simracingnews.com > > > > > >

In article <cejZ5.138196$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > True, F1CS2k is what F12k "should" have been. But would they have made as >much profit, which in turn controls future development, if they waited til >GP3 had been released, and months after the season is over, produce a year >2k sim title. I'm not so sure I'd be so charitable to even accept that F1CS2000 is what F12K should have been. Note: following based on demo and reading here... It is still equally slow (by my tests and going against other net and manf claims). AI could still be better (though it is improved, at least at the demo track). Tracks should still be of higher fidelity (see comments others have made about Monaco). Doesn't sound like an F1 car to me (at least external sounds). Still no telemetry. Still no after race reports. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed F12K. But I don't think F1CS2000 is that much of an improvement. Certainly not worthy of a separate release to me. Obviously it was to the marketeers (your point, I know).

Daily Radar has a review up if you want to know more about this patch EA is making us buy. You may want to hold off until F1 2001 comes out in March. http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_1164.html [email hidden] wrote:

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> F1CS2000 is a significant update to F1 2000 -- far more than a simple > patch, though. Check out preview on the Blackhole Motorsports site for > details: > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/reviews/f1cs.htm > > Enjoy! > > -- JB > > In article <91363f$m30$[email hidden]>, > Doug Gordon <[email hidden]> wrote: > > So I was in CompUSA today and saw an EA Sports title "Formula 1 > > Championship Season 2000" alongside some older copies of EA's "F1 > > 2000". So what's the difference here? Both claim to have the 2000 > > season teams and drivers. Is F1CS just an update of F1 2000? > > > > Doug Gordon > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

"JDP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Daily Radar has a review up if you want to know more aboutthis patch EA is > making us buy. You may want to hold off until F1 2001comes out in March. > > http://www.dailyradar.com/reviews/game_review_1164.html this review is shit. the guy say he has an TB at 1.1 GHz, a GF2 and 256 and he play this at 640*480, and then he has how the graphic is bad. Turbo LOL.