GPL Mosport question

Hi all, Novice (me) is in need of help again :( I have problem braking after the back straight at Mosport. After I go over the crest of the hill, the car seems to lose proper alignment, so on landing I have two options,: brake normally and spin or slide outside of the track in most cases or brake very gently and go very wide in the right-hander. This problem happen even if I slow down before the crest and I don't seem to be able to approach the crest in any way to guarantee proper alignment after the jump. Thanks in advance for any advises, Alex.

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> Novice (me) is in need of help again :( > I have problem braking after the back straight > at Mosport. After I go over the crest of the hill, > the car seems to lose proper alignment, so on > landing I have two options,: brake normally > and spin or slide outside of the track in most cases > or brake very gently and go very wide in the > right-hander. This problem happen even if > I slow down before the crest and I don't seem > to be able to approach the crest in any way > to guarantee proper alignment after the jump.

The easiest thing to do is to brake slightly on the way up the crest, then *release the brakes* just before you go over the crest, then a moment later, start braking again and change down to 4th. It's important not to be braking as you go over the crest, as this is where you will lose control as the car unweights. I believe it is possible to dispense with braking before the crest altogether, but only for aliens and the AI!

I do not brake before the crest myself. Just make sure you're on the left hand side of the road before you get to the crest, and make sure you have the car settled. Then just lift right before the crest. If you go fast enough you'll jump ever so slightly. Then when you land (it's important to land goig straight), brake steadily and firmly, and downshift to 4th. This is what works for me, at least... L.S. "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi all, > > Novice (me) is in need of help again :( > I have problem braking after the back straight > at Mosport. After I go over the crest of the hill, > the car seems to lose proper alignment, so on > landing I have two options,: brake normally > and spin or slide outside of the track in most cases > or brake very gently and go very wide in the > right-hander. This problem happen even if > I slow down before the crest and I don't seem > to be able to approach the crest in any way > to guarantee proper alignment after the jump. > > Thanks in advance for any advises, > Alex. >

It's also important that your set-up isn't hitting the bump rubbers either on the compression or the landing. Make sure you are not on the brakes as you go over the lip, and let it settle momentarily before getting on them again. Kevin Caldwell "Luis Soto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I do not brake before the crest myself. Just make sure you're on the left > hand side of the road before you get to the crest, and make sure you have > the car settled. Then just lift right before the crest. If you go fast > enough you'll jump ever so slightly. Then when you land (it's importantto > land goig straight), brake steadily and firmly, and downshift to 4th.This

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> is what works for me, at least... > L.S. > > > "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > Novice (me) is in need of help again :( > > I have problem braking after the back straight > > at Mosport. After I go over the crest of the hill, > > the car seems to lose proper alignment, so on > > landing I have two options,: brake normally > > and spin or slide outside of the track in most cases > > or brake very gently and go very wide in the > > right-hander. This problem happen even if > > I slow down before the crest and I don't seem > > to be able to approach the crest in any way > > to guarantee proper alignment after the jump. > > > > Thanks in advance for any advises, > > Alex. > > > >

Luis Soto <[email hidden]> wrote: > I do not brake before the crest myself. Just make sure you're on the left > hand side of the road before you get to the crest, and make sure you have It's not even important toactually _have_ the car on the left hand side before the crest. You can make the right-hander nicely even without excessive weaving and turning. I often cross the crest slightly diagonally, with the car only _aimed at_ the left hand side of the other side of the crest. It's not _fast_ but it feels safer. +Cinquo

the main principle is to have the car settled before you go over the crest or else you're in trouble as said previously, same principle as with Nurburgring Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

You can also "blip" a little bit the throttle when you're flying after the crest of the hill.It has to be quick though. The effect is that you're putting some more velocity on the rear wheel while there not touching the ground. Then, when you're landing, the inertia of the wheels (the rear ones) pushes the car ahead and helps to stabilize the platform (the rear is not completely passive then). Then brake and downshift as said by the others. Don't be too much on the left before the hill though, otherwise any small mistake will push you to" cut some flowers"!!! [email hidden] a �crit : > the main principle is to have the car settled before you go over the > crest or else you're in trouble as said previously, same principle as > with Nurburgring > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

just something to add, blipping the throttle that way also helps for the Nurburgring track for example, at the crest of the main hill (don't remember the name, but the first one). Then , the effect is also to avoid that the car is falling on the nose. GPL is so well modeled that the rotational inertia of the wheels is simulated and when you accelerate while flying, then the car is proportionnaly rotating relatively to its lateral axis, falling more and more on the rear wheels instead of the front ones (increasing the rear wheels speed creates an acceleration and then a force directed towards the ground). Try it and you will see what i mean... Does everybody agree with this? Sorry for the approximative explanation, it would be easier for me in french than in english! [email hidden] a �crit : > the main principle is to have the car settled before you go over the > crest or else you're in trouble as said previously, same principle as > with Nurburgring > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

In article <[email hidden]>, "Luis Soto" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I do not brake before the crest myself. Just make sure you're on the left >hand side of the road before you get to the crest, and make sure you have >the car settled. Then just lift right before the crest. If you go fast >enough you'll jump ever so slightly. Then when you land (it's important to >land goig straight), brake steadily and firmly, and downshift to 4th. This >is what works for me, at least... >L.S.

I *hate* that turn...I've destroyed more cars there... It's such a fine line - either I'm WAY to slow in the turn, or I'm off the track because I didn't slow down enough.. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +40.48 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Ease off before the crest then gently back on the power as you go over , only ease off and brake once the car has settled - works for me. All the best , John ( 00JimWheatly ) Alex <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi all, > > Novice (me) is in need of help again :( > I have problem braking after the back straight > at Mosport. After I go over the crest of the hill, > the car seems to lose proper alignment, so on > landing I have two options,: brake normally > and spin or slide outside of the track in most cases > or brake very gently and go very wide in the > right-hander. This problem happen even if > I slow down before the crest and I don't seem > to be able to approach the crest in any way > to guarantee proper alignment after the jump. > > Thanks in advance for any advises, > Alex. >

> I *hate* that turn...I've destroyed more cars there... It's such a fineline - > either I'm WAY to slow in the turn, or I'm off the track because I didn'tslow > down enough.. > > Eldred I have no problem with that turn. I come in fast, crash out, use bad language, get angry, and races Monza instead :-) Jon Andersen

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>> I *hate* that turn...I've destroyed more cars there... It's such a fine >line - >> either I'm WAY to slow in the turn, or I'm off the track because I didn't >slow >> down enough.. >> >> Eldred > >I have no problem with that turn. I come in fast, crash out, use bad >language, get angry, and races Monza instead :-) > >Jon Andersen

Hehe... Ok, I can understand that...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +40.48 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I'll try blipping throttle, I've been giving CM2 a go to give myself rest from 67 and the principle is same as well, you've got to set the car right before you go over the bump otherwise you find yourself in mid air over the edge of the road into the trees...made me nostalgic for my first time round the ring where the same thing happened...in fact, the same thing happened about the first 10 times ;) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

It's not the *turn* that bothers me--it's the guardrail . . . --David "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > I *hate* that turn...I've destroyed more cars there... It's such a fineline - > either I'm WAY to slow in the turn, or I'm off the track because I didn'tslow > down enough.. > > Eldred

In article <91a59b$r7v$[email hidden]>, Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> writes

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>Luis Soto <[email hidden]> wrote: >> I do not brake before the crest myself. Just make sure you're on the left >> hand side of the road before you get to the crest, and make sure you have > >It's not even important toactually _have_ the car on the left hand side >before the crest. You can make the right-hander nicely even without >excessive weaving and turning. I often cross the crest slightly >diagonally, with the car only _aimed at_ the left hand side of the other >side of the crest. It's not _fast_ but it feels safer. >

Turn in early for the corner if you are pretty much full pelt over the crest. It will stop you from drifting too wide. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.