[GPL] Poor GeForce2 performance...

Is there any way to get the same performance out of my new GeForce2 GTS that I got from my old Voodoo3? I always got very good (30+) framerates in GPL with the V3 in Glide mode, but in D3D mode on my GF2 it's mostly hanging around in the 20's. Did a lot of tweaking of settings with mipmapping, full screen antialiasing, and so on and even did a format/reinstall of Win98 to make sure the old 3dfx stuff wasn't dragging down performance somehow, but to no avail. The OpenGL beta thingy doesn't seem to be any better. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +15.49 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ -------------------------------------

Obvious question... Are you using the newer Direct X7 D3D beta rasterizer that came out a few months ago? That was the one that finally made my Geforce faster than my Voodoo. Can run it in 2048x1536 faster than I used to run 1024x768... Text is pretty hard to read at that res, but who needs FSAA at that res! :-) My apologies if you're already using it and this was a 'duh'... -John On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:19:34 GMT, "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Is there any way to get the same performance out of my new GeForce2 GTS that I >got from my old Voodoo3? I always got very good (30+) framerates in GPL with the >V3 in Glide mode, but in D3D mode on my GF2 it's mostly hanging around in the >20's. Did a lot of tweaking of settings with mipmapping, full screen >antialiasing, and so on and even did a format/reinstall of Win98 to make sure >the old 3dfx stuff wasn't dragging down performance somehow, but to no avail. >The OpenGL beta thingy doesn't seem to be any better.

It sounds like you have vsync enabled it will kill your framerate in gpl. You can disable it in openGL by default but to do it in D3D you'll need the coobits reg hack: http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/regedits/coolbits/index.html Hope that helps, Alex Cameron "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aGx_5.10865$[email hidden]... > Is there any way to get the same performance out of my new GeForce2 GTSthat I > got from my old Voodoo3? I always got very good (30+) framerates in GPLwith the > V3 in Glide mode, but in D3D mode on my GF2 it's mostly hanging around inthe > 20's. Did a lot of tweaking of settings with mipmapping, full screen > antialiasing, and so on and even did a format/reinstall of Win98 to makesure > the old 3dfx stuff wasn't dragging down performance somehow, but to noavail.

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> The OpenGL beta thingy doesn't seem to be any better. > > -- > ------------------------------------- > Morgan Vincent Wooten > GPLRank: +15.49 > http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ > ------------------------------------- > > > >

>Obvious question... Are you using the newer Direct X7 D3D beta >rasterizer that came out a few months ago? ... >It sounds like you have vsync enabled it will kill your framerate in gpl. >You can disable it in openGL by default but to do it in D3D you'll need the >coobits reg hack: >http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/regedits/coolbits/index.html Those two comments were very interesting, because just today I was going to order me a new system that includes GeForce2 GTS! I did not yet... Is it really so that you have to use "beta" rasterizer" and a _registry hack_(!) to make GPL work well wint GF2GTS??? I would not like to start with my new system by reg hacks! Perhaps I should still wait a little, and listen to the converstation in r.a.s.? Arto

I disabled vsync, but framerates appear to be the same. 36 with no traffic, 28-35 in light traffic, 15-25 in heavy traffic. Ran a few laps around several of Papy's original tracks just to make sure it wasn't because of unoptimized 3dos or whatever. 6.31 and 6.47 Detonator drivers, DirectX 8 and 7.0a, Win98 original, 566 Celery2 @ 708, 128MB, 32MB DDR GF2, no antialiasing, vsync on and then off, 1024x768. Could just be the slow CPU. I'll upgrade after Christmas sometime. Maybe that'll do it. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten GPLRank: +15.49 http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "Geordie Boot Boy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91eb3j$mii$[email hidden]... > It sounds like you have vsync enabled it will kill your framerate in gpl. > You can disable it in openGL by default but to do it in D3D you'll need the > coobits reg hack: > http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/regedits/coolbits/index.html > > Hope that helps, > Alex Cameron > > "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aGx_5.10865$[email hidden]... > > Is there any way to get the same performance out of my new GeForce2 GTS > that I > > got from my old Voodoo3? I always got very good (30+) framerates in GPL > with the > > V3 in Glide mode, but in D3D mode on my GF2 it's mostly hanging around in > the > > 20's. Did a lot of tweaking of settings with mipmapping, full screen > > antialiasing, and so on and even did a format/reinstall of Win98 to make > sure > > the old 3dfx stuff wasn't dragging down performance somehow, but to no > avail. > > The OpenGL beta thingy doesn't seem to be any better. > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------- > > Morgan Vincent Wooten > > GPLRank: +15.49 > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >

It isn't a problem it's just a regestry key that enables the choice to disable vsync (vsync needs to be dissabled to get solid framerates for just about all driving games) and enable overclocking in the nvidia menus you can get other programs that will do the same like nvtweak it's nothing that's going to harm your computer. The D3D patch is a beta because it was made by a papy programer in his spare time but it works fine. Alex Cameron "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wikla.976979905@kanasaari... > >Obvious question... Are you using the newer Direct X7 D3D beta > >rasterizer that came out a few months ago? > ... > >It sounds like you have vsync enabled it will kill your framerate in gpl. > >You can disable it in openGL by default but to do it in D3D you'll needthe

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> >coobits reg hack: > >http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/regedits/coolbits/index.html > > Those two comments were very interesting, because just today I was > going to order me a new system that includes GeForce2 GTS! > > I did not yet... Is it really so that you have to use "beta" rasterizer" > and a _registry hack_(!) to make GPL work well wint GF2GTS??? > > I would not like to start with my new system by reg hacks! > Perhaps I should still wait a little, and listen to the > converstation in r.a.s.? > > Arto

Slow CPU??? I'm with a C300@450 and still happy (on a V3) JensSchumi BTW: Do you send me the CPU for shipping costs? Puuuuuleeeeeeeez!!! On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:54:08 GMT, "Morgan V. Wooten" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> >original, 566 Celery2 @ 708, 128MB, 32MB DDR GF2, no antialiasing, vsync on and >then off, 1024x768. Could just be the slow CPU. I'll upgrade after Christmas >sometime. Maybe that'll do it. --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -3.34

P3-850, 128MB Ram, GeForce 2 32MB DDR. I am running the Latest drivers 6.31 (by the Nvidia site) and get constant 36s with 1280*1024 in GPL, this is with everything on, but wheel/arms (in cockpit). N4 demo with D3D at 1024*768*32 gets me a constant 40+ (by myself). I notice a slight slowdown in GPL at the starts, but it quickly regains the 36. I was able to get the 36 in GPL even without the registry hack, which is easy to do and caused no grief. After it apears the same except that N4Demo is faster. I am running DX8. Did I forget anything? SLG [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) wrote:

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>>Obvious question... Are you using the newer Direct X7 D3D beta >>rasterizer that came out a few months ago? >... >>It sounds like you have vsync enabled it will kill your framerate in gpl. >>You can disable it in openGL by default but to do it in D3D you'll need the >>coobits reg hack: >>http://3dchipset.com/utilities/nvidia/regedits/coolbits/index.html > >Those two comments were very interesting, because just today I was >going to order me a new system that includes GeForce2 GTS! > >I did not yet... Is it really so that you have to use "beta" rasterizer" >and a _registry hack_(!) to make GPL work well wint GF2GTS??? > >I would not like to start with my new system by reg hacks! >Perhaps I should still wait a little, and listen to the >converstation in r.a.s.? > >Arto

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