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31 posts by 17 people · 16 Dec 2000 13:55 UTC - 18 Dec 2000 15:02 UTC

Always backing the losing technology

Dave Henrie joked that every product he favoured, such as Thrustmaster, Rendition, Aureal and 3dfx, had died or been sold off. Others shared their own lists, including Betamax, Video 2000 and the L-1011, and the thread wandered off-topic.

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Dave Henrie 16 Dec 2000 13:55 UTC#214825
I bought Thrustmaster joysticks...best money I ever spent on computer stuff. Until they sold off the business to Gullimot...now I don't know what they put out. I had a 2nd generation Rendition card, they have disappeared Aureal oem soundcard with A3D 2.0 AND software EAX, damn fine card, not a problem with it ever....but THEY TOO are gone. 3dfx cards...I got the Canopus 6 meg V1 late in the first cycle, the V2 sli cards were already out. (Canopus got out of the consumer video card business shortly after the launch of th V2's.) Then a Voodoo3 and Voodoo 5, both by 3dfx. and ..... did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :) -- dave henrie Free the ICR2 source code!
Dave, No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating system, Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, XTree, WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. --Cassandra Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UuK_5.154761$[email hidden]... > I bought Thrustmaster joysticks...best money I ever spent on computer > stuff. Until they sold off the business to Gullimot...now I don't knowwhat > they > put out. I had a 2nd generation Rendition card, they have disappeared > Aureal oem soundcard with A3D 2.0 AND software EAX, damn fine card, not a > problem with it ever....but THEY TOO are gone. > 3dfx cards...I got the Canopus 6 meg V1 late in the first cycle, the V2sli
Quoted text (9 lines)> cards were already out. (Canopus got out of the consumer video card > business shortly after the launch of th V2's.) Then a Voodoo3 and Voodoo > 5, both by 3dfx. > and ..... > did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :) > -- > dave henrie > Free the ICR2 source code! >
Dave Henrie wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > I bought Thrustmaster joysticks...best money I ever spent on computer > stuff. Until they sold off the business to Gullimot...now I don't know what > they > put out. I had a 2nd generation Rendition card, they have disappeared > Aureal oem soundcard with A3D 2.0 AND software EAX, damn fine card, not a > problem with it ever....but THEY TOO are gone. > 3dfx cards...I got the Canopus 6 meg V1 late in the first cycle, the V2 sli > cards were already out. (Canopus got out of the consumer video card > business shortly after the launch of th V2's.) Then a Voodoo3 and Voodoo > 5, both by 3dfx. > and ..... > did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :)
Good thing I've already converted to AMD then :-) I think it's sad news indeed, just like I thought it was sad when Aureal and Rendition disappeared, and although I personally wasn't a big fan of either, they kept the pressure up on their competitors But if we look at it another way, we will probably get a little more stability in the vid card market, and our vid cards might last longer than 6-9 months before being "old", win some lose some I guess Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://members.prestige.net/bttw/teammirage/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
In article <UuK_5.154761$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I bought Thrustmaster joysticks...best money I ever spent oncomputer > stuff. Until they sold off the business to Gullimot...now I don'tknow what > they > put out. I had a 2nd generation Rendition card, they have disappeared > Aureal oem soundcard with A3D 2.0 AND software EAX, damn fine card,not a > problem with it ever....but THEY TOO are gone. > 3dfx cards...I got the Canopus 6 meg V1 late in the first cycle, theV2 sli > cards were already out. (Canopus got out of the consumer video card > business shortly after the launch of th V2's.) Then a Voodoo3 andVoodoo > 5, both by 3dfx. > and ..... > did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :) You forgot to mention anything about CART, Dave . . . <G> ;-) -- JB Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
No he didn't... <g> <snip> dave henrie Free the ICR2 source code! <snip> Jan./ CART!! =--- <[email hidden]> wrote...
Quoted text (10 lines)> <snip> > You forgot to mention anything about CART, Dave . . . <G> > > ;-) > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/
Do you think you could send me a list of which products you will be buying next year? I'm in the process of re-vamping my investment portfolio and would like to know what stocks NOT to own and if there is any short-selling potential there ;) <VBG> Scott B. Husted Profit The Pits: PowerSims Magazine (http://www.theuspits.com) Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FXK_5.12428$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Dave, > > No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating system, > Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, XTree, > WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. > > --Cassandra >
Betamax! We had a Video 2000 machine, great quality but quality obviously isn't important to the majority of VCR buyers. Chris -- www.geocities.com/simbokza Remove _your_clothes before replying "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FXK_5.12428$[email hidden]... > Dave, > > No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating system, > Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, XTree, > WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. > > --Cassandra >
No I suffer from the same curse. 486dx when pentiums came out only a month or 2 later, pentium 2 300mhz only to see them get as high as 450mhz in about 3 months, Voodoo3 3000 5 months before Voodoo4 came out, 2x DVD-ROM right before 4x and 6x DVD-ROM came out, Aureal A3D sound card....the list goes on. Next computer...AMD, SoundBlaster, and GeForce...or maybe I shouldnt curse the new technology :) Chris "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain
"Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote > Do you think you could send me a list of which products you will be buying > next year? I'm in the process of re-vamping my investment portfolio and > would like to know what stocks NOT to own and if there is anyshort-selling > potential there ;) Well... Ubisoft and Hasbro Interactive ;) Althought you never know with Sierra, they might plunge even further down... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.WeRace.net -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:25:41 GMT, "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Geo operating system, Was this that windows wannabe thing that sat on top of DOS? Geoworks? ~daxe
You OWNED an L-1011 Tristar?!!!! WOWEE!! :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FXK_5.12428$[email hidden]... > Dave, > > No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating system, > Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, XTree, > WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it.
Rephrase that to read that quaility wasn't important enough for other manufacturers to pay the license fee to Sony and also not important enough for the recorded-tape production houses. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91g6ht$j4a$[email hidden]... > Betamax! We had a Video 2000 machine, great quality but quality obviously > isn't important to the majority of VCR buyers. > > Chris
Of course, quails are renowned for being of dubious *QUALITY* :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Rephrase that to read that quaility wasn't important enough
In 1974 I was fortunate enough to be invited to fly on the demonstration flight arranged by Lockheed when the L1011 visited Sydney on its way to Japan to join JAL. (That was one awesome demonstration of hands-off technology, the pilot not taking manual control until after the 'plane had started its touchdown run.) Several months later the same aircraft was involved in a fatal crash in Japan. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You OWNED an L-1011 Tristar?!!!! > WOWEE!! :-) >
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:11:08 GMT, daxe <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:25:41 GMT, "Stephen Smith" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> Geo operating system, > >Was this that windows wannabe thing that sat on top of DOS? Geoworks? I had GEOS on my Commodore 64, but I don't think that was the same thing... Martin Long Live Nigel Mansell!
Yep daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:25:41 GMT, "Stephen Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Geo operating system, > > Was this that windows wannabe thing that sat on top of DOS? Geoworks? > > ~daxe
Yeah, but parts & service were a real pain in the butt. Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> You OWNED an L-1011 Tristar?!!!! > WOWEE!! :-) > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FXK_5.12428$[email hidden]... > > Dave, > > > > No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating
system, > > Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300,XTree, > > WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. > > >
Maybe they are in Australia, but here they come right out of the top draw! <VBG> Chris -- www.geocities.com/simbokza Remove _your_clothes before replying "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Of course, quails are renowned for being of dubious *QUALITY* :-) > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Rephrase that to read that quaility wasn't important enough > >
Chris Bloom wrote on 16 Dec 2000: >Betamax! We had a Video 2000 machine, great quality but quality >obviously isn't important to the majority of VCR buyers. Are those the Philips ones you used to see faintly desperate display adverts for in Exchange&Mart? ("Videos only �50!" etc)[1] I don't think I've ever even seen one in the metal. [1] "Video" as in the machine (what Americans call a VCR), not just for a tape! -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.
The Video 2000 system was the route Philips took at the start of the eighties. The tapes were double sided (like an audio cassette, only bigger:)) and you could get up to 4 hours each side. The picture quality was superb, way back in 1981 we had perfectly clear; freeze frame, slow motion and fast forward, with no lines on the screen just a perfectly clear image. The reason we had a machine was because my father worked for Philips (Pye actually, but that will mean nothing to anyone outside the UK) and I guess we got it cheap. It worked well for six or seven years until we finally had to concede to the irresistable advance of VHS. Chris -- www.geocities.com/simbokza Remove _your_clothes before replying "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Chris Bloom wrote on 16 Dec 2000: > > >Betamax! We had a Video 2000 machine, great quality but quality > >obviously isn't important to the majority of VCR buyers. > > Are those the Philips ones you used to see faintly desperate display > adverts for in Exchange&Mart? ("Videos only �50!" etc)[1] I don't think > I've ever even seen one in the metal. > > [1] "Video" as in the machine (what Americans call a VCR), not just for a > tape! > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) > The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - > Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.
thunk...another knife in the back...thanks John... dave henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > and .....
Quoted text (11 lines)> > did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :) > > You forgot to mention anything about CART, Dave . . . <G> > > ;-) > > -- JB > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/
Somehow I thought that parts, at least, would have been plentiful! (Okay...so they might've been a bit second-hand but they should have been cheap, anyway). -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BKS_5.23537$[email hidden]... > Yeah, but parts & service were a real pain in the butt. > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > You OWNED an L-1011 Tristar?!!!! > > WOWEE!! :-) > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FXK_5.12428$[email hidden]... > > > Dave, > > > > > > No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating > system, > > > Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, > XTree, > > > WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. > > > > > > > >
Then I envy you the ability to enjoy a quality quail, Chris. The one's we get here are just about inedible....tough, scrawny, taste like crap. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91guhu$2oq$[email hidden]... > Maybe they are in Australia, but here they come right out of the top draw! > > <VBG> > > Chris > > -- > > www.geocities.com/simbokza > > Remove _your_clothes before replying > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Of course, quails are renowned for being of dubious *QUALITY* :-) > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Bruce Kennewell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Rephrase that to read that quaility wasn't important enough > > > > > >
Wrong...we had a Pye factory in Sydney which manufactured some of the first television sets for OZ back in the 1950's. The factory was still there in 1967. Pye had a name for high-quality electronics...not just TV sets but radios as well. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91hllf$cnl$[email hidden]... > my father worked for Philips (Pye > actually, but that will mean nothing to anyone outside the UK)
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:11:08 GMT, daxe <[email hidden]> wrote: >Was this that windows wannabe thing that sat on top of DOS? Geoworks? Did you know that the *real* wannabe operating system called Windows (1.x to 3.x, 95 up to ME) just sits on top of DOS as well? Jan
I was slightly incorrect there as even down here in SA some people still remember Pye products. I think more recently they were solely a UK brand. Chris -- www.geocities.com/simbokza Remove _your_clothes before replying "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3a3c6fc3$[email hidden]... > Wrong...we had a Pye factory in Sydney which manufactured some of the first > television sets for OZ back in the 1950's. The factory was still there in > 1967. > > Pye had a name for high-quality electronics...not just TV sets but radios as > well. > > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:91hllf$cnl$[email hidden]... > > my father worked for Philips (Pye > > actually, but that will mean nothing to anyone outside the UK) > >
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:17:53 +0100, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote: >Did you know that the *real* wannabe operating system called Windows >(1.x to 3.x, 95 up to ME) just sits on top of DOS as well? /patronize mode on Gosh, no, Jan. I had no idea. /patronize mode off ~daxe
Yeah....you're probably right about that, Chris. I don't think that they've been sold locally since the late sixties/early seventies here. NZ also had Pye products; maybe from the Australian factory. Anyway....they had a good reputation, as did EMI - Thorn, which I think was also from the Motherland. :-) -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91imfb$3f7$[email hidden]... > I was slightly incorrect there as even down here in SA some people still > remember Pye products. I think more recently they were solely a UK brand. > > Chris > > > -- > > www.geocities.com/simbokza > > Remove _your_clothes before replying > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3a3c6fc3$[email hidden]... > > Wrong...we had a Pye factory in Sydney which manufactured some of the > first > > television sets for OZ back in the 1950's. The factory was still there in > > 1967. > > > > Pye had a name for high-quality electronics...not just TV sets but radios > as > > well. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bruce Kennewell, > > Canberra, Australia. > > --------------------------- > > > > Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:91hllf$cnl$[email hidden]... > > > my father worked for Philips (Pye > > > actually, but that will mean nothing to anyone outside the UK) > > > > > >
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:53:44 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Wrong...we had a Pye factory in Sydney which manufactured some of the first >television sets for OZ back in the 1950's. The factory was still there in >1967. Thus making this conversation relevant to GPL and thus relevant to this newgroup?... ;) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
You own an L1011, cool I would like to see it! I am in the market for one . . . NOT! SLG "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (30 lines)>Dave, > >No, I suffer from the same curse: Betamax, Valdocs, Geo operating system, >Lockheed L1011, DMSO, DOS, Kaypro, PD CDs, Rendition cards, MX300, XTree, >WordPerfect, Xerox stock, you name it. > >--Cassandra > >Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:UuK_5.154761$[email hidden]... >> I bought Thrustmaster joysticks...best money I ever spent on computer >> stuff. Until they sold off the business to Gullimot...now I don't know >what >> they >> put out. I had a 2nd generation Rendition card, they have disappeared >> Aureal oem soundcard with A3D 2.0 AND software EAX, damn fine card, not a >> problem with it ever....but THEY TOO are gone. >> 3dfx cards...I got the Canopus 6 meg V1 late in the first cycle, the V2 >sli >> cards were already out. (Canopus got out of the consumer video card >> business shortly after the launch of th V2's.) Then a Voodoo3 and Voodoo >> 5, both by 3dfx. >> and ..... >> did I mention I currently have an Intel processor? :) >> -- >> dave henrie >> Free the ICR2 source code! >> > >
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