http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip
There you have it! Released now! :)
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Notable threadRpyToLP replay-to-AI-line converter released for GPL
Martin Granberg announced the release of Nigel Pattinson's RpyToLp tool, which converts GPL replays into AI line files. Users experimented with it and got mixed results, and Pattinson explained that it is most useful for building AI on new tracks and needs manual editing to work well. Guides from Jan Kohl and the GPLEA's Ed Solheim were mentioned, and Goy Larsen dismissed talk of a 'secret GPL society'.
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:31:11 GMT, Martin Granberg
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>http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip
>
>There you have it! Released now! :)
YEAH!!!! Great!!
But damn, I'm at work now.. have to wait 8 long hours before I can
test it :(
Thanks for the good news,
Andre
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My mistake, I still had my old email adres in Agent, my new one is
[email hidden] :)
Andre
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>http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > >There you have it! Released now! :) > >Cheers, > >/Martin >BTW Andre, your mailbox is full...Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convert my
replays to them?
Chris G.
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> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > > There you have it! Released now! :) > > Cheers, > > /Martin > BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/But, what does this mean???
James
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> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:31:11 GMT, Martin Granberg > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > > > >There you have it! Released now! :) > > > >Cheers, > > > >/Martin > >BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... > > My mistake, I still had my old email adres in Agent, my new one is > [email hidden] :) > > Andre > > > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com > >http://www.deja.com/ >On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:26:01 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]>
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>Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convert my
>replays to them?
With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file.
This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the
same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file.
For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late
before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking
point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point
where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file,
and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me.
You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive
against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you
can finally win from the AI :))
At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still
have to test it :)
Andre
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> >Chris G. >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip >> >> There you have it! Released now! :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> /Martin >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... >> >> >> Sent via Deja.com >> http://www.deja.com/ > >That sounds like a great tool
Will it work with replays with more than one car??? For example full online
race replay??
Thomas
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> >Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convertmy
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> >replays to them? > > With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. > This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the > same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. > For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late > before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking > point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point > where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file, > and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me. > > You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive > against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you > can finally win from the AI :)) > > At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still > have to test it :) > > Andre > > > > >Chris G. > >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... > >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > >> > >> There you have it! Released now! :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> /Martin > >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... > >> > >> > >> Sent via Deja.com > >> http://www.deja.com/ > > > > >On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:20:52 +0100, "Thomas Soerensen @ Work"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>That sounds like a great tool
>
>Will it work with replays with more than one car??? Haven't tested it but I don't think so..
>For example full online race replay??I don;t think online replays will give a good result (because of the
warping), I think you should really use some offline replays (there
are enough replays at Schubi's site)
Andre
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>Thomas > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:26:01 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convert >my >> >replays to them? >> >> With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. >> This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the >> same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. >> For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late >> before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking >> point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point >> where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file, >> and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me. >> >> You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive >> against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you >> can finally win from the AI :)) >> >> At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still >> have to test it :) >> >> Andre >> >> > >> >Chris G. >> >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... >> >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip >> >> >> >> There you have it! Released now! :) >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> /Martin >> >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent via Deja.com >> >> http://www.deja.com/ >> > >> > >> > >Thomas Soerensen @ Work <[email hidden]> wrote:
> That sounds like a great tool
> Will it work with replays with more than one car??? For example full online
> race replay??
Oh, I do hope so: I'd give an arm and a leg for the opportunity to drive
full length offline races against 19 backward-driving AI racef*ckers. .)
+Cinquo
Two words....
Oh boy....!
:)
James
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> >Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convertmy
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> >replays to them? > > With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. > This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the > same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. > For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late > before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking > point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point > where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file, > and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me. > > You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive > against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you > can finally win from the AI :)) > > At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still > have to test it :) > > Andre > > > > >Chris G. > >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... > >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > >> > >> There you have it! Released now! :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> /Martin > >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... > >> > >> > >> Sent via Deja.com > >> http://www.deja.com/ > > > > >OK, so now I got this .lp file. Would I then put it the track folder for
that replay? For example if I converted a replay from Monza I would put it
in SIERRA\gpl\tracks\monza? Now all the AI will brake and follow the line of
the converted file?
Thanks,
Chris G.
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> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:26:01 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]>
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>
> >Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convertmy
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> >replays to them? > > With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. > This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the > same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. > For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late > before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking > point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point > where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file, > and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me. > > You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive > against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you > can finally win from the AI :)) > > At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still > have to test it :) > > Andre > > > > >Chris G. > >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... > >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip > >> > >> There you have it! Released now! :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> /Martin > >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... > >> > >> > >> Sent via Deja.com > >> http://www.deja.com/ > > > > >On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:22:26 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>OK, so now I got this .lp file. Would I then put it the track folder for
>that replay? For example if I converted a replay from Monza I would put it
>in SIERRA\gpl\tracks\monza? Now all the AI will brake and follow the line of
>the converted file?
As far as I can understand it from the readme file, the converted does
the copying automatically (make backups of your current lp files
first!!)
And yes, the AI should follow the line of the converted file.
Andre
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>Thanks, >Chris G. > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:26:01 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convert >my >> >replays to them? >> >> With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. >> This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the >> same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. >> For example, I still think the AI is braking a little bit too late >> before the Parabolica, even after the 1.2 patch (in 1.0 the braking >> point was even later!) I drive a lap in which I brake at the point >> where I want the AI to brake also. I convert the replay to an lp file, >> and if things work out the AI has the same driving style as me. >> >> You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive >> against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you >> can finally win from the AI :)) >> >> At least, this is what I expect an rpy->lp converter to do, I still >> have to test it :) >> >> Andre >> >> > >> >Chris G. >> >"Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:91kp1g$c3r$[email hidden]... >> >> http://www.theuspits.com/files/rpytolp.zip >> >> >> >> There you have it! Released now! :) >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> /Martin >> >> BTW Andre, your mailbox is full... >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent via Deja.com >> >> http://www.deja.com/ >> > >> > >> >Hmmmm; just used it to create a new race.lp file at Kyalami from a 1.19 lap
of mine and fired up a race. I sat in the pits and watched practice while
Jim Clark set pole with a blistering 3.31(!).
I assumed that when using a hotlap replay to set AI behavior, I only needed
to change the race.lp file, but perhaps I'm missing something. Suggestions?
TIA,
Steve B.
"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote...
<snip> You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and
drive against 20 Huttu's <snip>
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:59:34 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Aren't there 2 .lp files? Min and max or something? How does this
relate, is it min AND max? (what are they exactly anyway, sideway
escapes for overtaking?)
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>On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:22:26 GMT, "Chris G." <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>OK, so now I got this .lp file. Would I then put it the track folder for >>that replay? For example if I converted a replay from Monza I would put it >>in SIERRA\gpl\tracks\monza? Now all the AI will brake and follow the line of >>the converted file? > >As far as I can understand it from the readme file, the converted does >the copying automatically (make backups of your current lp files >first!!) >And yes, the AI should follow the line of the converted file.
"Andre Warringa" wrote:
>
> With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file.
> This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the
> same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. <SNIP!>
If only it was that easy Andre.. :-)
Now that you got the tool you wanted, I'm sure you'll look forward to
spending hours on end, to get those damn cars to behave they way you want
them too. <VBG!>
Ed_
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>You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive
>against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you
>can finally win from the AI :))
>
WHAT?!?
Curse you, Andre...
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> Warringa) writes: > > >You could also convert a replay file from Huttu for example, and drive > >against 20 Huttu's, or convert a replay file from Eldred, and then you > >can finally win from the AI :)) > > > > WHAT?!? > Curse you, Andre... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +39.11/F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beatsOn Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:00:58 +0100, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]>
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<After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working>
Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :)
Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files
are used for?
Andre
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> >"Andre Warringa" wrote: >> >> With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. >> This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the >> same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. <SNIP!> > >If only it was that easy Andre.. :-) > >Now that you got the tool you wanted, I'm sure you'll look forward to >spending hours on end, to get those damn cars to behave they way you want >them too. <VBG!>On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:44:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Ruud van Gaal)
wrote:
>Aren't there 2 .lp files? Min and max or something? How does this
>relate, is it min AND max? (what are they exactly anyway, sideway
>escapes for overtaking?)
I just found the info at the Pits:
http://www.theuspits.com/fbody/nascar/lpediting.html
Andre
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Ed Solheim heeft geschreven in bericht ...
Let me add its also a nice test to see how many help requests are generated
by an unsupported editor without documentation. Have a go finding stuff out
for yourself :-)
Martijn
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> >"Andre Warringa" wrote: >> >> With this tool you can convert a replay file to an lp file. >> This means that when you race against the AI, the AI will follow the >> same lines/braking points etc as in the replay file. <SNIP!> > >If only it was that easy Andre.. :-) > >Now that you got the tool you wanted, I'm sure you'll look forward to >spending hours on end, to get those damn cars to behave they way you want >them too. <VBG!>On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:52:08 +0100, "�artijn"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Let me add its also a nice test to see how many help requests are generated
>by an unsupported editor without documentation. Have a go finding stuff out
>for yourself :-)
I didn't knew it was forbidden to ask questions here on RAS and
sharing information amongst each other. Would Solitude be the great
track which it is now without Phil's help?
Andre
>Martijn
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"Chris G." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Sorry to be stupid but what are .lp files and why would I need to convertmy
> replays to them?
I copied this text from The Pits:
"18 DEC 2000 RpyToLP- Nigel Pattinson
The best choice for creating new AI files for Papyrus racing sims...this
tool allows you to run laps on the track, then convert them to the .lp
files! Very nice... [280 K]"
The editor allows you to create AI files from your replays, good for tracks
that don't have AI files, or where the AI is too slow...right!
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don
New GPL Programs for the Converted Tracks:
http://www.ianparker.co.uk/gpl/bapom/
In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa
<[email hidden]> writes:
>As far as I can understand it from the readme file, the converted does
>the copying automatically (make backups of your current lp files
>first!!)
>And yes, the AI should follow the line of the converted file.
>
>Andre
I tried this at Spa, with a lap from Alison of 3:22.xx. I figured that was
just enough ahead of my PB to challenge me. However, in the qualifying, the
fastest AI lap was 3:28.xx, which I could probably beat easily. The more I
think about this, the less worthwhile I think it is. If you're trying to slow
down the AI, wouldn't AI-Tweak be easier and better? What am I missing
here...? I would guess that it might help if you wanted to SPEED UP the AI,
but I don't have that problem.
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> >As far as I can understand it from the readme file, the converted does > >the copying automatically (make backups of your current lp files > >first!!) > >And yes, the AI should follow the line of the converted file. > > > >Andre > > I tried this at Spa, with a lap from Alison of 3:22.xx. I figured thaton Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:36:09 +1300, "Nigel Pattinson"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
It will take some experimenting before I will be fully able to use it,
but I'm sure the release of this tool will lead to some improved AI,
especially for the converted tracks.
Even more, I simply would like to thank you for releasing a
'development' tool to the public. A tool like this can only lead to
positive results, and I'm glad you chose to release it to the public,
instead of keeping it within the 'secret GPL society'. Thanks.
Andre
>Cheers
>Nigel
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>
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>Absolutely. It's most useful for new tracks - creating AI is no fun without >something like this to start from. To improve on other LP files you really >have to know what you're doing and be prepared to manually edit the LP files >that RpyToLp produces. Part of the reason for the delayed release of RpyToLp >was that I was hoping to be able to produce LP files that required little or >no editing, but I fell well short of that aim. At some stage I'll hopefully >take another crack at it, but at the moment there's too many other things to >do.
Andre Warringa wrote:
I wonder who these people in this "secret GPL society" is, I've yet to
meet any of them, but maybe they are so secret that nobody knows who
they are...
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> > It will take some experimenting before I will be fully able to use it, > but I'm sure the release of this tool will lead to some improved AI, > especially for the converted tracks. > Even more, I simply would like to thank you for releasing a > 'development' tool to the public. A tool like this can only lead to > positive results, and I'm glad you chose to release it to the public, > instead of keeping it within the 'secret GPL society'. Thanks.In article <[email hidden]>, "Nigel Pattinson"
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Ah, so the problem is, it would be more useful for someone with more SKILL, and
for different reasons. Thanks.
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>The more >I >> think about this, the less worthwhile I think it is. If you're trying to >slow >> down the AI, wouldn't AI-Tweak be easier and better? What am I missing >> here...? I would guess that it might help if you wanted to SPEED UP the >AI, >> but I don't have that problem. > >Absolutely. It's most useful for new tracks - creating AI is no fun without >something like this to start from. To improve on other LP files you really >have to know what you're doing and be prepared to manually edit the LP files >that RpyToLp produces. Part of the reason for the delayed release of RpyToLp >was that I was hoping to be able to produce LP files that required little or >no editing, but I fell well short of that aim. At some stage I'll hopefully >take another crack at it, but at the moment there's too many other things to >do."Andre Warringa" wrote:
>
> <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working>
> Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :)
> Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files
> are used for?
Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready...
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"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Andre Warringa" wrote:
> >
> > <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working>
> > Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :)
> > Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files
> > are used for?
>
> Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready...
>
> Ed_
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>
>
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:52:11 +0100, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Ed, there is a guide on http://www.theuspits.com, under
stockcars->editors.
I tried to make an AI for Sears Point. The AI behave like total morons
now, so I've got quite some experimenting to do.
The readme file says that rpy->lp has not been tested with the
converted tracks. So I thought that maybe the AI didn't work right
because it was a converted track.
So now I started working on an AI for Monza.
Now the AI behave like total morons on Monza too... maybe I shouldn't
have used my own replays <g>
Did anybody allready have success with the tool? Did anybody create a
good working AI with it for a converted track?
Andre
>
>Ed_
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>
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>"Andre Warringa" wrote: >> >> <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working> >> Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :) >> Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files >> are used for? > >Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready...Quoted text (20 lines)
> >> <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working> > >> Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :) > >> Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files > >> are used for? > > > >Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready... > > Ed, there is a guide on http://www.theuspits.com, under > stockcars->editors. > I tried to make an AI for Sears Point. The AI behave like total morons > now, so I've got quite some experimenting to do. > The readme file says that rpy->lp has not been tested with the > converted tracks. So I thought that maybe the AI didn't work right > because it was a converted track. > So now I started working on an AI for Monza. > Now the AI behave like total morons on Monza too... maybe I shouldn't > have used my own replays <g> > Did anybody allready have success with the tool? Did anybody create a > good working AI with it for a converted track? >Quoted text (8 lines)
> Andre > > > > >Ed_ > >The GPLEA > > > > >On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 22:33:06 +1300, "Nigel Pattinson"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Thanks for the tip, this could very well be the cause of my problems.
I'll give it another try tonight, making sure the race lp line will
not cross the min/max lines. Thanks.
Andre
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>The problems I was talking about will prevent it creating the lp files. The >moronic behaviour is therefore caused by a combination of your moronic >driving and my moronic program :) It is difficult to produce good AI. Try to >follow Jan's advice, and Ed's when he has it posted. Other people have more >experience doing this than me, but I found it was particularly important to >keep the line of the race lp within the boundaries formed by the min/maxrace >lps. Otherwise the AI goes into panic mode, which is not good. Rather >similar to what I do, come to think of it.Quoted text (13 lines)
>Cheers >Nigel > >> Andre >> >> > >> >Ed_ >> >The GPLEA >> > >> > >> > >I'm talking about a guide for GPL AI's Jan... Which is what I presume Andre
is planning to use RPY2LP.
I started working on a guide last week - without the knowledge about RPY2LP
"going public" this soon...
So most of the stuff is done... I just need to add a few tips and
explainations to it.
Ed_
The GPLEA
"Jan Kohl" wrote:
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> Already done. Check The Pits.... > > > "Andre Warringa" wrote: > > > > > > <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI working> > > > Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :) > > > Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files > > > are used for? > > > > Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready... > > > > Ed_ > > The GPLEA > > > > > >Quoted text (9 lines)
>> Even more, I simply would like to thank you for releasing a >> 'development' tool to the public. A tool like this can only lead to >> positive results, and I'm glad you chose to release it to the public, >> instead of keeping it within the 'secret GPL society'. Thanks. > >I wonder who these people in this "secret GPL society" is, I've yet to >meet any of them, but maybe they are so secret that nobody knows who >they are... >TToommLL wrote:
It was actually a rhetorical question on my part Tom :-)
There is no "secret GPL society", the person who originally talked about
this, not Andre, just likes to cause a fuss about things every now and
then, unfortunately not everyone knows him well enough to see that I
guess.....
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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> > I wonder if some of them might be with Papyrus. > If a track creater from the original GPL makes a > new track, to release it they would probably need > Sierra's permission, and might not get it. If they > don't tell Sierra and release under an alias, what > could Sierra do about it?Ah, what I meant was that I had updated my guide to include GPL tracks...
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"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm talking about a guide for GPL AI's Jan... Which is what I presume
Andre
> is planning to use RPY2LP.
>
> I started working on a guide last week - without the knowledge about
RPY2LP
> "going public" this soon...
>
> So most of the stuff is done... I just need to add a few tips and
> explainations to it.
>
> Ed_
> The GPLEA
>
>
> "Jan Kohl" wrote:
> > Already done. Check The Pits....
> >
> > > "Andre Warringa" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <After spending hours and hours trying to get that damned AI
working>
> > > > Thanks for the positive feedback Ed :)
> > > > Could you explain me where the min, max, and all the other LP files
> > > > are used for?
> > >
> > > Give me a couple of days and I should have a "little" guide ready...
> > >
> > > Ed_
> > > The GPLEA
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Oh, uh...
I knew that! :)
