GPL on a Magazine CD-Rom

Hi there, GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag "PC Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of January. Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will raise the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about 120.000 Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? Greetings, Michael Staab -- Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de

"Michael Staab" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > Hi there, > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag"PC > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of > January. > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this willraise > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about 120.000 > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.(snipped) Sounds great- it's good to see GPL getting some wide exposure. And as an American, I look forward to Germany losing a few places on GPL Rank over this. :-)

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> > "Michael Staab" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > Hi there, > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag > "PC > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of > > January. > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will > raise > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about 120.000 > > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > (snipped) > > Sounds great- it's good to see GPL getting some wide exposure. And as an > American, I look forward to Germany losing a few places on GPL Rank over > this. :-) > > >

I saw it here in the states at an Office Depot (not even a game software store) for $5 US.

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:19:37 -0600, CD Rome <[email hidden]> wrote: > I saw it here in the states at an Office Depot (not even a >game software store) for $5 US. Same here in Germany. I doubt that the release on the cover disk will have an influence on the player base. Those who cared already got it and the rest will be put off by the difficulty,especially since the magazine in question is more aimed at the casual player. But then, any press is better than no press. :) Jan

Hi Michael, When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn't patched. Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU to find it and apply it.) P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to join the game, so there might still be hope. --Steve Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > Hi there, > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag"PC > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of > January. > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this willraise

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> the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about 120.000 > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > Greetings, > > Michael Staab > -- > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > >

Heresy!!! Jan. ;-) =--- Stephen Smith wrote... > Hi Michael, > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the > remaindered bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), > <snip>

Steve, I've been looking for 2 boxed versions of GPL to give away as gifts just so the recipients could own "The Book" (the second best thing about GPL, next to the driving of course) Thanks again for such a great read. -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K_706.39883$[email hidden]... > Hi Michael, > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn't patched. > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU to find > it and apply it.) > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to join the > game, so there might still be hope. > > --Steve > > Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > Hi there, > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag > "PC > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of > > January. > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will > raise > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about 120.000 > > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the > > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > > > Greetings, > > > > Michael Staab > > -- > > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > > > > > > >

"CD Rome" <[email hidden]> wrote ... <snip> > I saw it here in the states at an Office Depot (not even a > game software store) for $5 US.I saw it in Fry's in LA for $49.95! SCGT was under $10 though. -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +12.8

Thx, Dean DTP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L_906.2928$[email hidden]...

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> Steve, I've been looking for 2 boxed versions of GPL to give away as gifts > just so the recipients could own "The Book" (the second best thing about > GPL, next to the driving of course) Thanks again for such a great read. > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Dean > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how > long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K_706.39883$[email hidden]... > > Hi Michael, > > > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn't > patched. > > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU to > find > > it and apply it.) > > > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to join the > > game, so there might still be hope. > > > > --Steve > > > > Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german

Mag > > "PC > > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the17th.

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> of > > > January. > > > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will > > raise > > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about > 120.000 > > > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > > > > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the > > > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > > > > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Michael Staab > > > -- > > > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > > > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Michael Staab wrote on 20 Dec 2000: >Hi there, > >GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag >"PC Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the >17th. of January.<snip> A slightly OT thought here - until fairly recently, UK mags (and, I believe, other European ones) used to tell us again and again that it was "impossible for contractual reasons" to give away old full games. Then we could d/l them from websites, but couldn't have them on the front of magazines. Now it seems even that's crumbling (there's a [bad, sadly] full game called "Excessive Speed" on a UK mag this month). And IMO, about bloody time. We've had full versions of utilities on coverdiscs for ages, and it hasn't done those companies any harm, so there was no excuse for the "ban" on games being distributed this way. Now, all we need is for someone to stick N4 on a UK cover CD... :-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

> Thx, Dean > > > Steve, I've been looking for 2 boxed versions of GPL to give away > > as gifts just so the recipients could own "The Book" (the second > > best thing about GPL, next to the driving of course) Thanks again > > for such a great read. Steve, you wouldn't happen to know where one could get access to the full text of the book, would you? The text from before Ferrari was cut? -Dirt- 2000 White/Red CBR929RR **Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes** Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

On 21 Dec 2000 01:00:50 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >A slightly OT thought here - until fairly recently, UK mags (and, I >believe, other European ones) used to tell us again and again that it was >"impossible for contractual reasons" to give away old full games. Not in Germany, they've been putting full version games on their disks since about three years, at high times you even got two or three games on one magazine! Another case of rip-off in the UK? ;-) Jan

I guess you already know this but I just thought it worth clarifying - but the book is there as a pdf file on the "Classic" CD. Its very good too - thank you. Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K_706.39883$[email hidden]... > Hi Michael, > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn'tpatched. > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU tofind

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> it and apply it.) > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to join the > game, so there might still be hope. > > --Steve > > Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > Hi there, > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag > "PC > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th.

of > > January. > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will > raise > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about120.000

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> > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the > > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > > > Greetings, > > > > Michael Staab > > -- > > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > > > > > >

Jan Loebzien wrote on 21 Dec 2000:

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>On 21 Dec 2000 01:00:50 GMT, [email hidden] >(David Buttery) wrote: > >>A slightly OT thought here - until fairly recently, UK mags (and, I >>believe, other European ones) used to tell us again and again that it >>was "impossible for contractual reasons" to give away old full games. > >Not in Germany, they've been putting full version games on their disks >since about three years, at high times you even got two or three games >on one magazine! Another case of rip-off in the UK? ;-)

Sounds like it :-( I thought copyright laws were supposed to have been standardised throughout the EU, so maybe that's why they've started doing it even here now. OTOH, there are differences between UK and German law - you have much stricter laws about "violent" games, for example. My version of MS Combat Flight Sim is licensed for sale all over the EU - except Germany. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

On 21 Dec 2000 14:07:57 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >there are differences between UK and German law - you have much stricter >laws about "violent" games, for example. My version of MS Combat Flight Sim >is licensed for sale all over the EU - except Germany. Well in the case of CFS it's probably not for graphical violence but because of Nazi content (swastikas etc). Jan

This is one area where EA really excels -- I had to re-purchase SCGT after giving my original copy to a friend, so I picked up a copy as one of EA's "CD-ROM Classics" and I was VERY pleased to find that the disk included a nice web-based front-end for installation, which also allowed me to directly install the 1.551 patch and several additional cars, I believe. They didn't include the ADVOPT patch, I don't think, but that wasn't an "official" EA utility, so they may not have had the legal rights to distribute it. At any rate, I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had purchased a nicely-patched re-release, and not just a re-pressing of the original release. Other game companies should take note. -- JB F1CS2K Rank 100.668 http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/ In article <K_706.39883$[email hidden]>, "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn'tpatched. > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDUto find > it and apply it.) > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to jointhe > game, so there might still be hope. > > --Steve Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Jan Loebzien wrote on 21 Dec 2000:

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>On 21 Dec 2000 14:07:57 GMT, [email hidden] >(David Buttery) wrote: > >>there are differences between UK and German law - you have much >>stricter laws about "violent" games, for example. My version of MS >>Combat Flight Sim is licensed for sale all over the EU - except >>Germany. > >Well in the case of CFS it's probably not for graphical violence but >because of Nazi content (swastikas etc).

Yes, probably you're right - but France has restrictions on that sort of thing, and you can buy CFS there. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Chris, I threw it out. There's nothing deader than footage on the cutting room floor, as it were. --Steve Chris Cavin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91rtem$91m$[email hidden]...

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> > > Thx, Dean > > > > > Steve, I've been looking for 2 boxed versions of GPL to give away > > > as gifts just so the recipients could own "The Book" (the second > > > best thing about GPL, next to the driving of course) Thanks again > > > for such a great read. > > > Steve, you wouldn't happen to know where one could get access to the > full text of the book, would you? The text from before Ferrari was cut? > > -Dirt- > 2000 White/Red CBR929RR > > **Jesus saves sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes** > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/

Steven, I did not know that. (Ed MacMahon voice.) Thanx! --Steve steven crook-dawkins <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91sije$j2u$[email hidden]...

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> I guess you already know this but I just thought it worth clarifying > - but the book is there as a pdf file on the "Classic" CD. > > Its very good too - thank you. > > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K_706.39883$[email hidden]... > > Hi Michael, > > > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn't > patched. > > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU to > find > > it and apply it.) > > > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking to join the > > game, so there might still be hope. > > > > --Steve > > > > Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german

Mag > > "PC > > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the17th.

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> of > > > January. > > > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) this will > > raise > > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about > 120.000 > > > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > > > > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patch on the > > > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > > > > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Michael Staab > > > -- > > > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > > > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > > > > > > > > > > > >

On 21 Dec 2000 23:44:51 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >Yes, probably you're right - but France has restrictions on that sort of >thing, and you can buy CFS there. It's just more restrictive here. :) But you can buy CFS here as well, the developers/publishers just have to make special versions where the swastikas are replaced by the german cross thingie for instance. Jan

Jan Loebzien wrote on 22 Dec 2000: >It's just more restrictive here. :) >But you can buy CFS here as well, the developers/publishers just >have to make special versions where the swastikas are replaced by >the german cross thingie for instance. Ah, OK. That makes sense. Presumably that was the reason that Spirit of Speed [may it rot in peace] had that rather odd "bear" flag for the German cars, rather than the real 1937 flag - because Microprose thought they might sell one or two copies in Germany. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

"steven crook-dawkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:91sije$j2u$[email hidden]... > I guess you already know this but I just thought it worth clarifying > - but the book is there as a pdf file on the "Classic" CD. > > Its very good too - thank you. Is the manual/user guide also available as a PDF? For some reason, my copy of GPL (bought as full priced, boxed version) only has the excellent Steve Smith book. If a PDF of the missing bit exists, I'd appreciate a copy.

I've learned of two sources for boxed versions of GPL. See the News page on my GPL site: http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.com/gpl Alison In article <L_906.2928$[email hidden]>, "DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Steve, I've been looking for 2 boxed versions of GPL to give away asgifts > just so the recipients could own "The Book" (the second best thingabout > GPL, next to the driving of course) Thanks again for such a greatread. > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Dean > > I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't rememberhow

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> long it's been since I've forgotten anything. > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K_706.39883$[email hidden]... > > Hi Michael, > > > > When Sierra re-released GPL as a "classic" (i.e., in the remaindered > > bin...without a box and WITHOUT MY BOOK), the game on the CD wasn't > patched. > > Duh! (They did include 1.2.0.1 on the CD, but it was up to the FDU

to > find > > it and apply it.) > > > > P.S. I still get questions almost daily from newbies looking tojoin the

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> > game, so there might still be hope. > > > > --Steve > > > > Michael Staab <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:91qaqu$50e85$[email hidden]... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the

german Mag > > "PC > > > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the17th. > of > > > January. > > > > > > Given that GPL only sold 40.000 Copies ( including 2 to me ) thiswill > > raise > > > the count of sold GPL-Copies around 300%, because PCA sells about > 120.000 > > > Copies in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. > > > > > > Hmm, I hope that they are smart enough to include the D3D Patchon the

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> > > CD-Rom and Links to the best GPL-Fansites... > > > > > > But why do I feel a bit sad seeing GPL being sold so cheap ? > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Michael Staab > > > -- > > > Mitglied in der CAR, Verein f�r PC-Rennsimulationen www.car-ev.de > > > Staabi's Mountain Bike Classics www.mtb-classic.de > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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