not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer? From what
I've seen these past few weeks, only trouble. Can anyone speak up and
'splain to me the benefits of using win 98 me???? That backup thingy does
NOTHING for me btw....
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dave henrie
Free the ICR2 source code!
There probably are no great benefits. Most of the
reviews I've read (and the anecdotal evidence I've
heard) suggest that gamers are better off sticking
with Win98SE.
But isn't this always what happens when Redmond
shifts gears? An OS that has been around long
enough for folks to get used to (and for patches
to be developed for) gets tossed in favor of the
next shiny object. Which is usually slower and,
until all the drivers get written, less well
supported.
As someone who has been fiddling with every OS
since DOS 3.0, I have grown wary and weary of the
more or less annual upgrade convulsion. Until I
absolutely have to, I think I'll skip the next few
"innovations."
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> not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer? From what >I've seen these past few weeks, only trouble. Can anyone speak up and >'splain to me the benefits of using win 98 me???? That backup thingy does >NOTHING for me btw.... > > >-- >dave henrie >Free the ICR2 source code! >
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer?
Just got WinME with a new system. Before I installed W2K Pro I used ME for
a week or so. The only things I did with the system was run SETI@home for
three days to "test" the system, web browsing and play GPL for several
hours.
As near as I can tell, if you disable all the extra crap (use MSConfig to
trim the startup garbage) there is virtually no difference between ME and
98SE that is obvious to a gamer or casual user.
YMMV and that was only a week with the OS (Dell WinME not retail)
SB.
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MUCH faster boots. Improved network stack - I get faster downloads (however
it is incompatible with older firewalls). Windows 2000 interface. Removed
real-mode DOS so it boots and runs faster. The ability to put folders in
your Start menu and have them pop up the directory without clicking. Don't
have to spend a day on MS Update updating software components. Stability
(at least in my case) is improved. I don't know what everyone is whining
about.
-Phasor
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> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer?
>
> Just got WinME with a new system. Before I installed W2K Pro I used MEfor
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> a week or so. The only things I did with the system was run SETI@home for > three days to "test" the system, web browsing and play GPL for several > hours. > > As near as I can tell, if you disable all the extra crap (use MSConfig to > trim the startup garbage) there is virtually no difference between ME and > 98SE that is obvious to a gamer or casual user. > > YMMV and that was only a week with the OS (Dell WinME not retail) > > SB.I 2nd everything that Phasor says below...
"Phasor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> MUCH faster boots. Improved network stack - I get faster downloads(however
> it is incompatible with older firewalls). Windows 2000 interface.Removed
> real-mode DOS so it boots and runs faster. The ability to put folders in
> your Start menu and have them pop up the directory without clicking.Don't
> have to spend a day on MS Update updating software components. Stability
> (at least in my case) is improved. I don't know what everyone is whining
> about.
>
> -Phasor
Dave Henrie wrote:
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> not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer? From what
> I've seen these past few weeks, only trouble. Can anyone speak up and
> 'splain to me the benefits of using win 98 me???? That backup thingy does
> NOTHING for me btw....
Improved tcp/ip stack. Beyond that, nothing special at all. A gamer
needs to disable all the other extra crap & fluff that differentiate ME
from 98SE in order to get any semblance of the speed of the earlier M$
OS back. Restore is a good idea in theory, but a resource hog of a
major degree. May be an ok OS for workstation types, but for hardcore
gamers I'd say save your money.
--
Chuck Kandler
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org
>Dave Henrie wrote:
>> not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer?
So far, I'd say nothing except fast boot and probably stability. It has been
more stable than my previous OS, Win95b. Only a couple of crashes in a month
of use (a fraction of that time oc'd). It is supposed to bring much better
driver support. But it failed to load my internal modem and SBLive(!) when I
first installed it.
It has one utility (PCHealth?) which results in occasional disk accesses
very reminiscent of "FindFast". If you are in a racing sim, it'll kill you.
But it can be disabled as can all other new features. I took the advice of
those here and disabled them. But I saw virtually ZERO difference in
fraps-reported framerates. But it does seem a bit slower than what I
remembered from running some tests on my old Win95b system. Hmmm.
Since I'm oc'ing a c566 to 800, I think I'll leave those features on for now
:-)
I found all the new friendly "personalizing" features (probably most in Win98)
to be useless. Basically, I make it look as much like Win95 as I can.
Lots of what I call screwups to the explorer window:
Why did they screw with file find? Now it replaces my folder pane with the
find pane so I have to switch back to it every time. I prefer the old method
of a separate find window.
Why won't my explorer remember my preference for sorting by date?
Why did they change it so that if I want the latest dated files on top, the
sub-folders now appear at the bottom?
Why when I start my computer does an open explorer window sometimes default
back to "large icons" view instead of my preferred "details"?
Basically, it seems some things were changed for the sake of change (shades of
the auto industry?).
I second that once you disable the anoying stuff like auto update and pc
health IMO it boots, runs faster and is more stable then 98se. I'm no fan of
M$ but people just seem to blindly bash evey new product they come out with,
I for one would rather have Bill Gates running the world than George Bush Jr
;-)
Alex Cameron
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> MUCH faster boots. Improved network stack - I get faster downloads(however
> it is incompatible with older firewalls). Windows 2000 interface.Removed
> real-mode DOS so it boots and runs faster. The ability to put folders in
> your Start menu and have them pop up the directory without clicking.Don't
for
> > three days to "test" the system, web browsing and play GPL for several
> > hours.
> >
> > As near as I can tell, if you disable all the extra crap (use MSConfigto
> > trim the startup garbage) there is virtually no difference between MEand
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> have to spend a day on MS Update updating software components. Stability > (at least in my case) is improved. I don't know what everyone is whining > about. > > -Phasor > > "Sideshow Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:MEz26.196827$[email hidden]... > > > not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer? > > > > Just got WinME with a new system. Before I installed W2K Pro I used ME > for > > a week or so. The only things I did with the system was run SETI@homeQuoted text (8 lines)
> > 98SE that is obvious to a gamer or casual user. > > > > YMMV and that was only a week with the OS (Dell WinME not retail) > > > > SB. > > >I don't know anyone personally who hasn't given up on Windows ME and gone
back to Windows 98 or Windows 2000.
There's too much crap running in the background, it has horrible driver
problems, and it's basically unstable as hell.
I've never SEEN so many blue-screens as I did with ME.
Driver support is worse than it was for Win2K when it came out.
Windows ME is a paradox, for sure.
-Larry
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> not me but Window Mellenium. What does it bring the gamer? From what
> I've seen these past few weeks, only trouble. Can anyone speak up and
> 'splain to me the benefits of using win 98 me???? That backup thingydoes
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> NOTHING for me btw.... > > > -- > dave henrie > Free the ICR2 source code! >On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 03:17:35 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I don't know anyone personally who hasn't given up on Windows ME and gone
>back to Windows 98 or Windows 2000.
Well, you dont know me personally, but I havent gone back to either of
these OSes. I had Win2K installed, but decided not try and make it
into a gaming OS and whine about the fact that it isn't.
>There's too much crap running in the background, it has horrible driver
>problems, and it's basically unstable as hell.
Uninstall or shut off the background stuff, I have had zero driver
problems, and it is the most stable version of Windows 9x I have ever
used. By a long ways.
>I've never SEEN so many blue-screens as I did with ME.
I think I have had three since I installed it. Usually when I was
doing about 10 things at once after having been up for the better part
of a week.
>Driver support is worse than it was for Win2K when it came out.
Win98 drivers work for pretty much everything I have tried in WinME.
The native WinME drivers are coming in, too, but since I have no
problems, it is no big deal.
>Windows ME is a paradox, for sure.
Nothing paradoxical about it from where I sit. It runs all my sims
very well and everything else I throw at it, for that matter. It
crashes less than previous versions of win9x and the networking is
tons more stable. If you have Win98 and it suits your needs, there
isn't a whole lot of reason to upgrade, but the suggestion that it is
just globally a bad, unstable product is inaccurate.
~daxe
Have a fresh experience myself.
I installed ME few weeks ago. Always had problems with incompatibilities running
my existing software.
So I decided to go back to WIN 98.
First try:
"Your setup-program is not compatible to WIN98 ME" gggggggggrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
Then I started from dos-prompt (booting emergency disk)
What looked quite promising in the beginning, ended up with a big mess, so I
had to do a fresh WIN98 install.
OK, OK. from time to time it's acceptable and useful.
Now it comes:
Although I had switched off all those ME-Gimmicks <at least I thought so>, I had
to delete *70.000* cpy-files from this _restore folder. And this after a *few*
weeks.
JensSchumi
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Weirld I have heard of ME problems. I guess I am lucky. Windows ME works
great for me and gpl.
Brian Bowles
"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Have a fresh experience myself.
>
> I installed ME few weeks ago. Always had problems with incompatibilitiesrunning
> my existing software.
> So I decided to go back to WIN 98.
> First try:
> "Your setup-program is not compatible to WIN98 ME" gggggggggrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
> Then I started from dos-prompt (booting emergency disk)
> What looked quite promising in the beginning, ended up with a big mess,so I
> had to do a fresh WIN98 install.
>
> OK, OK. from time to time it's acceptable and useful.
>
> Now it comes:
> Although I had switched off all those ME-Gimmicks <at least I thought so>,I had
> to delete *70.000* cpy-files from this _restore folder. And this after a*few*
