Uh, so how was the race at Nurburgring?

Geez, I missed my OWN race... :( My computer decided to act bitchy. Grrr... I was late setting up the race. My racing DUN didn't want to connect, for various reasons. Number busy, the computer has refused your connection, the computer has dropped your connection, etc. I was going to use my AOL account just so I could setup the race for all the people who must be waiting - that didn't work either. Ok, may as well try the racing DUN. After SEVERAL attempts(more than 20), it connected. Great - connected to my remote GPL server, setup the race, everyone starts jumping in. 23 laps?!? WTF? I loan my servers to 4 or 5 leagues, one of them must have changed the .ini file. Ok, kicked everyone out, shutdown the server, connected through FTP, d/l'd the .ini files, corrected the number of laps, uploaded to the server. Setup the race again. I connected, number of laps is right - whew! Uh oh - no mouse. Oh, come ON...! Ok, bail out, then jump back in. At least I have a cursor now...(scared to touch the mouse until I get to the track screen). Track screen - it still works. Hmm, why didn't it work 2 minutes ago? Ah well, no matter, all is well now... I go to the track. For some reason, both the sound and control input were 'notchy'. I tried to drive, but it was a lost cause. Ok, maybe I need to reboot. Logoff, exit, reboot - no good. Well, I had the Ringtrainer program change the start line. I haven't run an online Ring race since then, maybe that's the problem? Try another track - no good. All the AI cars are Coopers?!? Hmm...I loaded that 'markenpokal' util - maybe that's the problem. Uninstall - no good. Try another reboot - no good. Oh yeah, I had to re-load my SBLive for emulation mode to run an ICR2 offline league race. Uninstalled both creative labs programs - no good. Try another reboot - no good. Oh yeah - I changed some settings to try to get Death Track Racing(Rollcage2) to work, as suggested by their tech support. Changed the acceleration for both playback and recording devices back to full, reboot. Well, at least the sound is ok, but now it's shifted to lo-res graphics - 12fps. Check the graphics settings - GPL wasn't set for the 3DFX - WTF? Ok, reset it. Oh, I have to restart the game? Ok, restart - still no good. Argh! Oh yeah - I think I also changed the graphics acceleration under Win98 to troubleshoot Rollcage. Went to the performance options - acceleration was off<sigh>. Ok, change it back to full, reboot. Ok cool, it works! It's about 1:45... Based on the delays in starting the race, I just *might* have enough time to catch it, and start from the back. Remember that <expletive> DUN connection? Grrr.... It took about *30* attempts this time. Ok, I'm connected. Waiting for the race list...<taps foot> There it is! Server E. Pickett, Race - Nurburgring, Status.....*in transition*.... What the hell, I'll try to connect anyway...no good - too late. ...I wonder how the race went...<sobs...> I try to take one problem at a time, but recently, several have attacked me at once. I won't go into more detail about the problems running that offline ICR2 race, or of trying to get GP3 and Rollcage2 to run(neither works yet), or of the panic I'm in over the Bull Run 2K at the US Pits...or even the squirrels that are fighting in my attic... :( No, I may as well go shovel all this <expletive> snow that's falling... Eldred - hating the world right about now... -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Eldred - hating the world right about now... You were missed..... but we could't hold of the start any longer as the crowds were getting restless. I can only speak for myself, and I had a great race.. until my damned wheel quit on me in midflight. Chrashed out of what later turned out to be the lead. Still it was the longest i have ever driven at the Ring, and it was a great feel to know that I was fu**ed if I even brushed a barrier slightly.... sort of makes you focus a bit more. The few people I encountered on my way through the german woods were quite polite, and waited until i gave them room, before attemting any passing.... nice to race people with a bit of patience. Looking very much forward to your next session. By the way... Jan won it, Topi came second and I believe I actually managed third (everybody else fell off ;) although the scoreboard sadly says otherwise. I hit a massive warp, my screen froze for 10-12 seconds and suddenly I found myself unharmed at the side of the road. That lap didn't register at the server for some reason ;) Mikkel

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote: > Geez, I missed my OWN race... :([...] Damn, you certainly had bad luck. You could have interrupted the practice until everything was under control. It would have been nice to have you there as well. As for the winner, Jan Verschueren got the 1st place after everyone else had disconnected or crashed by lap 9; big congratulations to Jan! I've put the complete report from GPL Replay Analyzer to <http://aton.co.jyu.fi/~tjp/ring.txt>. I had been training Mosport with Honda (gotta drive it in our league) for the whole day and wasn't sure whether to participate at all. Then I got the old trusty Ferrari, jumped to the server and tried a couple of practice laps, which went quite nicely and I decided to take the plunge. Unsurprisingly, there was a pile-up at T1 and I guess a couple of guys dropped right there. Someone spun in front of me and I hit him in the side, but fortunately I had time to brake so there wasn't any damage. I let some clearly faster drivers by during the first lap and started the long, long, LONG ordeal... After 7 laps, I and Jan were the only ones left and I was practically staring at the monitor and drooling, thankful for the long straights where I could flex my arms and legs. I couldn't concentrate at all and was scraping the walls every so often. Then during lap 9 at Wehrseifen I forgot to brake for the bridge and hit it hard, losing my rear wheel. Jan drove cleanly and went through the finish line. It would have been nice to break my PB (8:32), but my times were 10-30 seconds slower even though I thought I was doing pretty nicely. Definitely the longest and hardest practice session ever. :) - topi -- http://www.iki.fi/tjp/

On 30 Dec 2000 20:51:02 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: For me the race went really bad.. First I did a warmup lap, and when I crossed the s/f line and went for my first qualifying lap, someone left the pitch and rammed me. It was too stupid for words, the guy just didn't look in the mirrors and just threw his car in front of mine. Turned out it was a 'newbie' and after he took out someone else he luckily left the race. So I had to do another warmup lap, and there was time left for 1 qualifying lap. I got the third position, 8:22 lap I believe. Ok, race starts. I realize that I forgot to select my race setup! I went to the setup menu, chose the race setup, went back to the racing screen and.. the race allready started :( So I could only join the race from the pits while the rest allready was gone. On the first lap I overtook a couple of cars, and I drove really easy, I didn't want to blow up my engine again. At the end of the lap, at the long straight, I didn;t give full throttle to spare the engine. In my mirrors I saw a Ferrari in the distance behind me. He was giving full throttle, I saw that he gained on me. After the straight I took the lefthander, I watched in my mirros to see where the Ferrari was, and.. I noticed too late that I should have braked. With 60mph I hit the railing, and my wheel broke off. End of the race for me. Didn't even finish one lap. One of my worst races ever :( Andre

Going in, as at Zand I felt I had a better than even chance of finishing on the podium if I could just stay in the race, qualifying with full fuel purposely to avoid the hotlappers in front. But even approaching T1 close to last I caught the tailend of the pileup, as boneheads still went in two wide or too fast, even though they knew full well position meant about nothing in a 2hour race. Anyway. By the start of L6 I was in 3rd (not sure where Mikkel was) and looking at the laptimes afterwards had done two 8:32s in a row. That was just too fast for me, especially with 10laps of fuel on board. I should have been slowing down instead of speeding up and waiting a couple more laps to see if Paavola was gaining ground. Without enough experience though, brainfade set in, caught some grass, & etc. As at Zand the turtles beat all the hares :) rms [email hidden]

Sorry to hear of your woes Eldred. My race was pretty uneventful after the start. Started from near the back of the field after foregoing qualifying. Decided to take it easy for a lap or two before picking up the pace on lighter fuel and hot tyres. Plans were scuppered when a Ferrari hit me from behind in the braking zone to turn 1. Four wheels still on my wagon but with handling now suspect, I was very circumspect for the first 1/2 lap before learning the new handling traits of my mount. Managed to Keep it up for 5 laps, even picking off a car or two. The car was a pig to drive and I made a few minor excursions managing to keep the car from hitting anything. By lap 6, I was comfortably running in 6th place and was was actually enjoying the ride, albeit a lonely one, when suddenly in red type. "Throughput dropped to unacceptable level" Instant disco ----- sob MS EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Geez, I missed my OWN race... :( > My computer decided to act bitchy. Grrr... > I was late setting up the race. My racing DUN didn't want to connect, for > various reasons. Number busy, the computer has refused your connection,the > computer has dropped your connection, etc. I was going to use my AOLaccount > just so I could setup the race for all the people who must be waiting -that > didn't work either. Ok, may as well try the racing DUN. After SEVERAL > attempts(more than 20), it connected. > Great - connected to my remote GPL server, setup the race, everyone starts > jumping in. 23 laps?!? WTF? I loan my servers to 4 or 5 leagues, one ofthem > must have changed the .ini file. > Ok, kicked everyone out, shutdown the server, connected through FTP, d/l'dthe > .ini files, corrected the number of laps, uploaded to the server. Setupthe > race again. > I connected, number of laps is right - whew! Uh oh - no mouse. Oh, come > ON...! > Ok, bail out, then jump back in. At least I have a cursor now...(scaredto > touch the mouse until I get to the track screen). Track screen - it still > works. Hmm, why didn't it work 2 minutes ago? Ah well, no matter, all iswell > now... > I go to the track. For some reason, both the sound and control input were > 'notchy'. I tried to drive, but it was a lost cause. > Ok, maybe I need to reboot. Logoff, exit, reboot - no good. > Well, I had the Ringtrainer program change the start line. I haven't runan > online Ring race since then, maybe that's the problem? Try anothertrack - no > good. All the AI cars are Coopers?!? > Hmm...I loaded that 'markenpokal' util - maybe that's the problem.Uninstall - > no good. Try another reboot - no good. > Oh yeah, I had to re-load my SBLive for emulation mode to run an ICR2offline > league race. Uninstalled both creative labs programs - no good. Tryanother > reboot - no good. > Oh yeah - I changed some settings to try to get Death TrackRacing(Rollcage2) > to work, as suggested by their tech support. Changed the acceleration forboth > playback and recording devices back to full, reboot. Well, at least thesound > is ok, but now it's shifted to lo-res graphics - 12fps. Check thegraphics > settings - GPL wasn't set for the 3DFX - WTF? Ok, reset it. Oh, I haveto > restart the game? Ok, restart - still no good. Argh! > Oh yeah - I think I also changed the graphics acceleration under Win98 to > troubleshoot Rollcage. Went to the performance options - acceleration was > off<sigh>. Ok, change it back to full, reboot. Ok cool, it works! > It's about 1:45... Based on the delays in starting the race, I just*might* > have enough time to catch it, and start from the back. > Remember that <expletive> DUN connection? Grrr.... > It took about *30* attempts this time. Ok, I'm connected. Waiting forthe > race list...<taps foot> There it is! > Server E. Pickett, Race - Nurburgring, Status.....*in transition*....What the > hell, I'll try to connect anyway...no good - too late. > > ...I wonder how the race went...<sobs...> > I try to take one problem at a time, but recently, several have attackedme at > once. I won't go into more detail about the problems running that offlineICR2 > race, or of trying to get GP3 and Rollcage2 to run(neither works yet), orof > the panic I'm in over the Bull Run 2K at the US Pits...or even thesquirrels

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> that are fighting in my attic... :( > > No, I may as well go shovel all this <expletive> snow that's falling... > > Eldred - hating the world right about now... > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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In article <92lkl3$hfm$[email hidden]>, Topi Paavola <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> Geez, I missed my OWN race... :( >[...] > >Damn, you certainly had bad luck. You could have interrupted the >practice until everything was under control. It would have been nice to >have you there as well. >

Nah, that's not like me. I realize that there were people who might be under time constraints, and it wouldn't be fair for me to hold them up. I said I'd setup the race at a certain time. If problems caused me to miss it - so be it. >As for the winner, Jan Verschueren got the 1st place after everyone else >had disconnected or crashed by lap 9; big congratulations to Jan! I've >put the complete report from GPL Replay Analyzer to ><http://aton.co.jyu.fi/~tjp/ring.txt>. Ok, thanks - I'll check it out. Congrats, Jan! Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks. Jan. =--- EldredP wrote... > <snip> > Ok, thanks - I'll check it out. Congrats, Jan! > > Eldred

Bad luck Eldred... Maybe you could benifit from the format c: type of solution to your problems. Installing everything fresh with latest software/drivers cures most ails and ultimately it's quicker than sorting out an ongoing mess. I appreciate you hosting these events and would like to see you do well in them. So, as far as I'm concerned you can delay an event because of technical reasons. Before I agree to do a race I must be sure for myself I have time to run it, so I'm never in a great hurry when racing online. Or maybe you can just boost practise a little on the next one, buy yourself some time in case you get unstuck. Jan. =--- EldredP wrote... > Geez, I missed my OWN race... :( > <snip>

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> Going in, as at Zand I felt I had a better than > even chance of finishing on the podium if I could > just stay in the race, qualifying with full fuel > purposely to avoid the hotlappers in front. But > even approaching T1 close to last I caught the > tailend of the pileup, as boneheads still went in > two wide or too fast, even though they knew full > well position meant about nothing in a 2hour race. > Anyway.

Agree, that was pretty silly... I wasn't going as fast as usual, braked early and still had to take to the grass to avoid an accident. Then again, it's a casual, open race, so you can expect as much. Too bad some people don't seem to realise they really shouldn't join GP lenght races. Both the skill <cough> and the mindset are basic requirements. Maybe we ought to organise future efforts a little more and limit access. I thought I saw some "names" (pretty heavy hitters in simracing) lurking with intent in chat which didn't show in the race. Guess they couldn't get in? > By the start of L6 I was in 3rd (not sure where Mikkel was) and looking at > the laptimes afterwards had done two 8:32s in a row. That was just toofast > for me, especially with 10laps of fuel on board. I should have beenslowing > down instead of speeding up and waiting a couple more laps to see ifPaavola > was gaining ground. Without enough experience though, brainfade set in, > caught some grass, & etc. That is hard, isn't it? -Not allowing yourself to get ahead of yourself and the car. Especially at the Ring, because the weight comes off in relatively big chuncks. Each time you drive a certain section the car is significantly lighter. I noticed in earlier offline and online races I really had to pace myself to go slower than I can usually safely do just to prevent any overenthousiasm. > As at Zand the turtles beat all the hares :) "sustainable pace" is the magic word. ;-) Jan. =---

Heroic effort Mark, bad luck. You joked about me riding shotgun for you earlier. Which was exactly what I did for a while before your disco. To me, of course, I was just "tagging along behind Mark until the time came to do something about those 48 seconds". ;-) Jan. =--- Mark Seery wrote...

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> <sniop> > By lap 6, I was comfortably running in 6th place > and was was actually enjoying the ride, albeit a > lonely one, when suddenly in red type. > > "Throughput dropped to unacceptable level" Instant > disco ----- sob > > MS