GPL Problems with Computer Upgrade

Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish with this race when last in GPL. I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. Thanks, Wayne

Your computer upgrade was EXACTLY like mine, (same MoBo and processors and O/c speeds) except that I'm using 2 Voodoo2's in SLI, rather than a Voodoo3. I have never encountered any of these problems -- not even once, so I don't think it's anything inherent with your overclocking. Although your temp is about like mine (32C at the moment), do these anomalies happen only after the PC has been on for awhile? If so, it could be a heat buildup problem. Have you tried re-installing GPL? You could save all of your setups and replays offline and re-install them after GPL. (Your non-original tracks would also have to be re-installed). One other thought: Although I don't think that 29C is too hot, try taking the cover off of the case and blow a desk fan right into the case (That's what I do). Hope this helps.... Wayne J Stelly wrote:

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> Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > with this race when last in GPL. > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > Thanks, > > Wayne

-- Bert

Wow...same setup here...before and after. Never had a problem, either with tracks, being pitched back to the desktop, etc. I do have a large heatsink and fan on the CPU, a fan at the front of the case bringing air in, and a slot fan right below the Voo Doo� sucking air out. Stable , temperature ok, with the case closed which helps getting a good air flow inside. Sorry...dunno what to say that would help. "Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > with this race when last in GPL. > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > Thanks, > > Wayne >

I have the same setup as you and have had no probs with this. I did get some desktop crashes every so often, but I was clocking my card from 143 up to 165 without any extra cooling. I recently upgraded to a V5 and now get no desktop crashes. I use the D3D version of GPL since it allows the V5 to use large texture mips. I did however just update the Abit BH6 BIOS to the newest BH6 1.0 version, which is the SS version that supports the Cel II 566 processors. I had the NV bios before when I was using my V3 2000, but like I said did not get any problems. Got to http://www.abit-usa.com/ and upgrade your bios. Now I have a V5, 256 Mb PC133 CAS3 RAM, and the newest SS bios. The only game that crashes to the desktop is Madden 2k1 which is a know issue with that game. Hope you figure it out. I suppose it is a heat issue since this usually causes these problems. Either that or if your card is an AGP, make sure any PCI cards are AT LEAST one slot away from the AGP card. Therefore, there should be no cards in PCI slot 1. Hope this helps. -Dominic. "BRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Your computer upgrade was EXACTLY like mine, (same MoBo and processors and > O/c speeds) except that I'm using 2 Voodoo2's in SLI, rather than a > Voodoo3. I have never encountered any of these problems -- not even once, > so I don't think it's anything inherent with your overclocking. Although > your temp is about like mine (32C at the moment), do these anomalieshappen > only after the PC has been on for awhile? If so, it could be a heatbuildup

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> problem. > > Have you tried re-installing GPL? You could save all of your setups and > replays offline and re-install them after GPL. (Your non-original tracks > would also have to be re-installed). > > One other thought: Although I don't think that 29C is too hot, try taking > the cover off of the case and blow a desk fan right into the case (That's > what I do). > > Hope this helps.... > > > > > > Wayne J Stelly wrote: > > > Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > > with this race when last in GPL. > > > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wayne > > -- > Bert > > >

"Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? >[snip] Wayne-- I've always been taught to wipe the hard drive and reinstall OS and all apps after a major hardware upgrade like processor. Some might think it's overkill, but if you're having strange problems and there are no obvious issues, you might want to bite the bullet and go throught the hassle. Good luck! Tim Elhajj > Wayne >

On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 01:16:47 GMT, Wayne J Stelly <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > >I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron >300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of >RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and >currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can >run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and >some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to >load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, >Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me >to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. >Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks >at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. >The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the >Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden >Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the >Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish >with this race when last in GPL. > >I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > >Thanks, > >Wayne >

The BH6 doesn't have a CPU temperature sensor. The sensor is at the end of one of the pci slots and only gives you case temperature. (Can't remember which one). If a CPU is at the limit of overclocking its not unusual to get crashes in CPU intensive games like GPL. Jeff

I have the same setup. What voltage are you running? Try increasing the voltage and see if it is more stable. I had to reflash my bios to get to the higher voltage range to make it stable. "Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > with this race when last in GPL. > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > Thanks, > > Wayne >

My voltage is set at 1.8. Tried all from 1.65 though 1.85. It seems that the most stable (such as it is) is 1.8V. And yes, I did reflash my bios to get the selection. Wayne DLK wrote:

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> I have the same setup. What voltage are you running? Try increasing the > voltage and see if it is more stable. I had to reflash my bios to get to > the higher voltage range to make it stable. > > "Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > > with this race when last in GPL. > > > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wayne > >

I had that problem as well, go to the CD & copy the track folders or all files from the track folders that don't work onto the hard drive in same track folder. My now works on all tracks again. "Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > with this race when last in GPL. > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > Thanks, > > Wayne >

Thanks, I realize my problem is related to an overheated/unstable chip at too high a voltage setting. GPL runs fine at 707Mhz (83Mhz fsb and an 8.5 multiplier) set at the nominal 1.5V. Wayne Terry kane wrote:

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> I had that problem as well, go to the CD & copy the track folders or all > files from the track folders that don't work onto the hard drive in same > track folder. > My now works on all tracks again. > > "Wayne J Stelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Can Anyone Offer Any Advice? > > > > I recently upgraded my CPU on my ABIT BH6 motherboard from a Celeron > > 300a to a Celeron 566a. I have a Voodoo3 3000 video card with 128Mb of > > RAM. I successfully had my Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz and > > currently have my Celeron 566a overclocked to 850Mhz. Currently I can > > run all applications, including the Nascar 4 demo (with great fps) and > > some tracks in GPL (also with great fps). Certain GPL tracks refuse to > > load and bounce me out to the Windows desktop. Other tracks (Solitude, > > Mexico, Watkins, Bugatti, Zandvoort, among them) will load, allowing me > > to race, but on occasionally, will boot me out to the Windows desktop. > > Some replays, similar to the tracks will run. I can run all GPL tracks > > at 566Mhz with no problem, but I am looking for the faster framerate. > > The maximum temperature that I have seen of the processor in the > > Motherboard SoftMenu is 29�C, which I assume is good. I have a Golden > > Orb heatsink and fan on the CPU. Also, GPL repeatedly sends me to the > > Solitude track in the single race screen, even though I did not finish > > with this race when last in GPL. > > > > I would appreciate any help that any of you might be able to offer. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wayne > >