GPL: top 6 corners I crashed most

Hi, In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially when I am doing a very fast lap... 1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) 2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) 3) Masta kink (Spa) 4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) 5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen 6) Abbey (Silverstone) grtngs, hgrm -- Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional

"Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Hi, > > In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially > when I am doing a very fast lap... > > 1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) > 2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) > 3) Masta kink (Spa) > 4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) > 5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen > 6) Abbey (Silverstone)

Good idea, here's mine: 1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen 2) The bridge in the right sweeper right before the second karusell at the Ring 3) Before Nouveau Monde, Rouen 4) Lesmo 1 5) Parabolica 6) Curva Grande Monza is a pain, tries to hard every time :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

a Quick glance at your problem corners suggests a simple solution. avoid corners named after Nouvelle....:) dave henrie "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9304r2$db0$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially > when I am doing a very fast lap... > > 1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) > 2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) > 3) Masta kink (Spa) > 4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) > 5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen > 6) Abbey (Silverstone) > > grtngs, > hgrm > > > > -- > Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional > >

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>Hi, > >In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially >when I am doing a very fast lap... > >1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) >2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) >3) Masta kink (Spa) >4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) >5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen >6) Abbey (Silverstone)

1) Mosport, right hander after the hill, 2) Spa, Blanchimont, the very first part 3) Rouen, the lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin Alex (alexti)

In reverse order (as they say)... 6) Corner just after Flugplatz 5) Parabolica 4) Abbey 3) Most of Mosport, especially the r-h after the crest... 2) La Carriere 1) Bloody Malmedy. Ugh, ugh, UGH. Yep, two corners from my favourite track as 1 and 2. Maybe that's why I like Spa so much - there's a great feeling of satisfaction when I get round a really fast lap without ending up in the hedge... -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

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>>In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially >>when I am doing a very fast lap... >> >>1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) >>2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) >>3) Masta kink (Spa) >>4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) >>5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen >>6) Abbey (Silverstone)

1) The chicane at Monaco 2) The chicane at Monaco 3) The chicane at Monaco 4) The chicane at Monaco 5) The bump in the esse after the fastest part of Kesselchen 6) The last turn at Rouen +Cinquo

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> >>when I am doing a very fast lap... > >> > >>1) Nouvelle chicane (Monaco) > >>2) Turn 8 (Mosport, the righthander after the hill) > >>3) Masta kink (Spa) > >>4) Flugplatz (N�rburgring) > >>5) The lefthander before Nouveau Monde hairpin at Rouen > >>6) Abbey (Silverstone) > > 1) The chicane at Monaco > 2) The chicane at Monaco > 3) The chicane at Monaco > 4) The chicane at Monaco

I'm sort of getting better at this now ... key (at least for me!) seems to be get to right of track on approach and then look at the armco on left and *ignore* the hay bales. Somehow by starting at the right of track an aiming to just miss the end of the armco I'm much much better than thinking about missing the hay bales! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Without remembering the corner names: 1) lefthander after long straight at the Ring I can take this one right 1 out of 3 times.. often I hit the fence/bushes on the right side, very bad for the car.. 2) lefthander at Mosport (you know the one I'm talking about) 3) hairpin at Monaco (loose lots of time there) 4) Parabolica at Monza. Yesterday I drove a new pb of 1:27.75 at Monza, yet GPLDump shows me that I lose more than half a second at the entrance of the Parabolica. No matter what I try, I allways lose major time here.. 5. hairpin at Rouen (so difficult to judge speed there) 6. Last corner at Rouen (also lose lots of time there, when I try to take it just a little bit faster I allways lose the car there) Andre

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> > 4) The chicane at Monaco > > I'm sort of getting better at this now ... key (at least for me!) seems > to be get to right of track on approach and then look at the armco on > left and *ignore* the hay bales. Somehow by starting at the right of > track an aiming to just miss the end of the armco I'm much much better > than thinking about missing the hay bales!

Yeah, it's 50% psychology and 50% setting up the approach properly after the tunnel. The car can get loose when the track starts to slope downwards, but if you keep right (possibly lifting a bit at the crest) it's just a matter of nailing the throttle down and *pushing* it through, not letting go until you have to brake for Tabac. Feels very nice when you get it right. More troublesome corners: - the last left at Silverstone and the right before it - T1 at the Ring (in races with >10 drivers) - topi -- http://www.iki.fi/tjp/

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> <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > 4) The chicane at Monaco > > > > I'm sort of getting better at this now ... key (at least for me!) seems > > to be get to right of track on approach and then look at the armco on > > left and *ignore* the hay bales. Somehow by starting at the right of > > track an aiming to just miss the end of the armco I'm much much better > > than thinking about missing the hay bales! > > Yeah, it's 50% psychology and 50% setting up the approach properly after > the tunnel. The car can get loose when the track starts to slope > downwards, but if you keep right (possibly lifting a bit at the crest) > it's just a matter of nailing the throttle down and *pushing* it > through, not letting go until you have to brake for Tabac. Feels very > nice when you get it right.

Definately. I was told during practice for a league race last year that I had to try the chicane flat out. After lifting a little bit to settle the car over the crest, i floored it, almost closed my eyes and pushed through it. Very satisfying, although, when I get it right the adrenalie rush makes me forget to brake for Tabac :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

>In GPL there are some corners that I mess up very frequently, especially >when I am doing a very fast lap... My choices would be: 1) Stavelot, Spa 2) Big Bend, Watkins Glen 3) Turn 1, Mexico City 4) Hondenvlak, Zandvoort (The quick left-right about halfway round) 5) Turn 2, Mosport 6) Hairpin, Rouen -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

In article <931p9s$sn7$[email hidden]>, Topi Paavola <[email hidden]> writes: >Yeah, it's 50% psychology and 50% setting up the approach properly after >the tunnel. The car can get loose when the track starts to slope >downwards, but if you keep right (possibly lifting a bit at the crest) >it's just a matter of nailing the throttle down and *pushing* it >through, not letting go until you have to brake for Tabac. Feels very >nice when you get it right. I wouldn't know. I can't floor it before I'm about halfway down the hill, and I have a 'confidence' lift in the middle...<g> I've never gotten it right at full speed from the crest, and I have to lift after getting through it to get control back. I'm sure that would gain me a couple of seconds if I could DO it... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <931jn3$jj0$[email hidden]>, > Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> 1) The chicane at Monaco >> 2) The chicane at Monaco >> 3) The chicane at Monaco >> 4) The chicane at Monaco > I'm sort of getting better at this now ... key (at least for me!) seems > to be get to right of track on approach and then look at the armco on > left and *ignore* the hay bales. Somehow by starting at the right of > track an aiming to just miss the end of the armco I'm much much better > than thinking about missing the hay bales!

For me the problem is, that no matter what speed and what angle I have when I approach it, surviving it is a lottery draw. I have a much better chance of making through a full GP at N�rburgring than a novice qualifying session at Monaco... But I'll try the new aim - thanks for the suggestion. +Cinquo

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> > For me the problem is, that no matter what speed and what angle I have > when I approach it, surviving it is a lottery draw. I have a much better > chance of making through a full GP at N�rburgring than a novice qualifying > session at Monaco... But I'll try the new aim - thanks for the suggestion. > > +Cinquo

I thought that too, but then got a new steering wheel and it became much easier. A precise steering wheel seems to be esential there (BTW, I now have a LWFFGP one). -Gregor

I agree with most of the ones listed so far but these for me are particularly troublesome... 1) Mexico (any turn) - although T1 guardrail has my firestones tattooed all over it. 2) Mosport right turn after the crest of the hill 3) 'Ring - those blasted hedges halfway around the track 4) 'Ring - right turn downhill before the overhead bridge (Aremburg?) 5) Glen - The loop 6) Rouen - left + hairpin combo (IMHO GPL's toughest section to be fast and in control) Honorable mention: Mosport T2 Cheers, Ray Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Just "burp" the throttle to keep the rear of the car under you, look down the straight towards Tabac and floor it. Don't even look at the armco or the hay bales. Just like when approaching a pile-up, you'll hit what you're looking at, so keep looking at the gap and you'll put the car there. Leap of faith, but it works. I now have different problem... I carry enough speed there to seriously destabilize the car when it crashes down on it's soft suspension through the compression, so I have to hold back for fear of losing it on the exit. If I stiffen it up I start compromising other sections and I haven't found a compromise I'm happy/faster with. Jan. =--- Ville V Sinkko wrote...

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> <snip> > For me the problem is, that no matter what speed and > what angle I have when I approach it, surviving it is > a lottery draw. I have a much better chance of making > through a full GP at N�rburgring than a novice qualifying > session at Monaco... But I'll try the new aim - thanks > for the suggestion. > > +Cinquo

Funny, I keep finding different places to stuff it at. After two years of this chenanigans I have a pretty failsafe strategy for most turns on most tracks... it's when I try pushing the envelope that things start to go wrong. Maybe my "little bit faster" isn't "little" enough.<g> Jan. =--- Han Monsees wrote... > Hi, > <snip>

I used the arcade view to visualize where I should be placing the car through the chicane. Of course, switch back to cockpit mode when you understand how to approach it. Jason. Ville V Sinkko wrote:

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> > [email hidden] wrote: > > In article <931jn3$jj0$[email hidden]>, > > Ville V Sinkko <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> 1) The chicane at Monaco > >> 2) The chicane at Monaco > >> 3) The chicane at Monaco > >> 4) The chicane at Monaco > > > I'm sort of getting better at this now ... key (at least for me!) seems > > to be get to right of track on approach and then look at the armco on > > left and *ignore* the hay bales. Somehow by starting at the right of > > track an aiming to just miss the end of the armco I'm much much better > > than thinking about missing the hay bales! > > For me the problem is, that no matter what speed and what angle I have > when I approach it, surviving it is a lottery draw. I have a much better > chance of making through a full GP at N�rburgring than a novice qualifying > session at Monaco... But I'll try the new aim - thanks for the suggestion. > > +Cinquo

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After owning GPL well over a year, I still haven't made a real effort at Rouen and Silverstone. I'll leave those out. About half the turns at Nurburger. Chicane Monaco (Not a race track, IMO) "Leap of faith" fast left had jog at Solitude La Carriere, Spa. Easy to blow if you're being pushed. Although I seldom crash, I often goof up Malmedy, Spa. A quick way to wreck a good lap. Same story at Mexican Esses. $0.02 GRC ============ Anti-Spam measures have been taken! Remove duplicate letters to reply.

These are my 5 worst corners in GPL. 1: Monaco chicane 2: Monaco chicane 3: Monaco chicane 4: Anywhere at Nurburgring 5: Monaco chicane I get through the chicane at least once every 5 laps ;-) ZZ

These are my 5 worst corners in GPL. 1: Monaco chicane 2: Monaco chicane 3: Monaco chicane 4: Anywhere at Nurburgring 5: Monaco chicane I get through the chicane at least once every 5 laps ;-) ZZ

>1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored and don't feel like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips.

[email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes: > >1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen > > Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored and don't feel > like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips. The best part of that corner is that it provided me the very first GPL scare in the demo over two years ago. I still remember that first lap. Slowly out of the pits, easy up the esses, and then hammered the throttle on the straight. WOW! And then that nasty corner turned up mid air :D -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes: > > > >1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen > > > > Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored anddon't feel > > like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips. > > The best part of that corner is that it provided me the very firstGPL > scare in the demo over two years ago. I still remember that first > lap. Slowly out of the pits, easy up the esses, and then hammeredthe > throttle on the straight. WOW! And then that nasty corner turned up > mid air :D >Duh! That's the stage I'm at now! Have pity on a beginner, and tell me why the back end always wants to come round on me when I brake there - it slides to the left. (Raising tyre pressures and softening back end seems to help a little, but I'd like to know why!) Thanks, -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.217 / Virus Database: 102 - Release Date: 02/12/00

probably has to do with letting off the gas and the engine torque and gearbox differential "twisting" the back end. I am sure there are ROCKET SCIENTISTS here that will properly explain it. Suffice to say...Find Eagle Woman's site...download her Ferrari setups...practice practice practice and you'll eventually be able to gently lift off the gas and decrease the nervousness of that beast your sitting in. Good luck...and NO MESSAGES saying you conquered the game in TWO WEEKS...( my ego is too fragile) dave henrie "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zm856.2911$[email hidden]...

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> > Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > [email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes: > > > > > >1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen > > > > > > Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored and > don't feel > > > like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips. > > > > The best part of that corner is that it provided me the very first > GPL > > scare in the demo over two years ago. I still remember that first > > lap. Slowly out of the pits, easy up the esses, and then hammered > the > > throttle on the straight. WOW! And then that nasty corner turned up > > mid air :D > > > Duh! That's the stage I'm at now! Have pity on a beginner, and tell me > why the back end always wants to come round on me when I brake there - > it slides to the left. (Raising tyre pressures and softening back end > seems to help a little, but I'd like to know why!) > Thanks, > -- > Laurence Wilmer > [email hidden] > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.217 / Virus Database: 102 - Release Date: 02/12/00 > >

"Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I used the arcade view SACRILEDGE! (sp?) :) dave henrie

On 4 Jan 2001 00:09:19 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >3) Most of Mosport, especially the r-h after the crest... Damn that crest! Thankfully its been flattened out at the real track. :) --- http://go.to/ra300z

That's why I said switch back to cockpit mode :-) As a learning tool, the arcade view can be benefical. Jason. Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I used the arcade view > SACRILEDGE! (sp?) > > :) > dave henrie

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That's why I said switch back to***pit mode :-) As a learning tool, the arcade view can be benefical. Jason. > > I used the arcade view > SACRILEDGE! (sp?) > :) > dave henrie -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL, Fun Run Sims) http://www.racersdomain.com - Race hosting. (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

It's very simple - as you go over the crest and into the dip, the car "unweights" (rather like when skiing) and therefore you lose grip. The trick at this corner is to lift off the brakes as you go over the crest, then immediately (but smoothly) get back on the brakes, and trail-brake into the corner. "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zm856.2911$[email hidden]...

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> > Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > [email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes: > > > > > >1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen > > > > > > Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored and > don't feel > > > like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips. > > > > The best part of that corner is that it provided me the very first > GPL > > scare in the demo over two years ago. I still remember that first > > lap. Slowly out of the pits, easy up the esses, and then hammered > the > > throttle on the straight. WOW! And then that nasty corner turned up > > mid air :D > > > Duh! That's the stage I'm at now! Have pity on a beginner, and tell me > why the back end always wants to come round on me when I brake there - > it slides to the left. (Raising tyre pressures and softening back end > seems to help a little, but I'd like to know why!)

>> I used the arcade view > SACRILEDGE! (sp?) > >:) >dave henrie > Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

In any order... 1) T1, Mexico (90% of the time I wreck there) 2) T2, Mosport (Eh, 40% of the time there) 3) The right hander after the crest at Mosport (95% of the time!) 4) The corner right after the chicane at Monaco (always brake too late) 5) Parabolica at Monza (always seem to get out of shape or enter too deep) 6) The corner before the hairpin at Rouen 7) ALL of Rouen! 8) Big Bend, Watkins Glen (Whenever I go for a fast lap at least) 9) Masta at Spa 10) Every square inch of Silverstone!! 11) Same goes for Zandvoort! Okay, that oughta be enough... :) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

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> >> I used the arcade view > > SACRILEDGE! (sp?) > >:) > >dave henrie > > > > Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) > > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher > Team Racing Unlimited > http://simcrash.00game.com

Glad to hear it...:) I have heard that Super Mario Cart has a LOVELY arcade view...hehehehehehehhehehehhehehehehhehehehehehehheheheheheh If God had meant Sim racers to float 10 behind their cars, he'd have given us gamepads for Fingers.... Dave(I may be slow but my Butt is in the car)henrie

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> Glad to hear it...:) I have heard that Super Mario Cart has a LOVELY >arcade view...hehehehehehehhehehehhehehehehhehehehehehehheheheheheh >If God had meant Sim racers to float 10 behind their cars, he'd have given >us >gamepads for Fingers.... >Dave(I may be slow but my Butt is in the car)henrie > >

Hehe. Just because I hate not being able to see a damn thing in the cockpit and having no clue where my wheels are at and usually ending up wrecking into another car while in the cockpit doesn't mean that I don't like realistic physics. I just hate the incar view! Too clausterphobic for me. Not to mention I don't have force feedback so I appreciate the visual cues of the arcade view. ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

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>>> I used the arcade view >> SACRILEDGE! (sp?) >> >>:) >>dave henrie >> > > >Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) >

It *that* how you're so fast in ICR2??? <g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> [email hidden] (Patten Fuqua) writes: >> >> > >1) That righthander after the dip at Watkins Glen >> > >> > Of course, the fun part with this one is that if you get bored and >don't feel >> > like making laps, it's the best place to "practice" flips. >> >> The best part of that corner is that it provided me the very first >GPL >> scare in the demo over two years ago. I still remember that first >> lap. Slowly out of the pits, easy up the esses, and then hammered >the >> throttle on the straight. WOW! And then that nasty corner turned up >> mid air :D >> >Duh! That's the stage I'm at now! Have pity on a beginner, and tell me >why the back end always wants to come round on me when I brake there - >it slides to the left. (Raising tyre pressures and softening back end >seems to help a little, but I'd like to know why!) >Thanks,

Like others have said, it's best to get your braking done before the crest. I can usually start braking just after that sign on the left disappears from view - the one Steve Smith mentions in his book - and get it all done before the dip and then start to turn in as I go over the crest and before I can even see the corner. However, you could also try moving the brake balance a bit more towards the fronts for now if this is giving you major problems. It may cause your fronts to lock up a bit more often until you get used to it, but less chance of what's happening at the moment. -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

>>Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) >> > >It *that* how you're so fast in ICR2??? <g> > >Eldred Yes. hehe ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

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> >>Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) > > > >It *that* how you're so fast in ICR2??? <g> > > > >Eldred > > Yes. hehe > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher > Team Racing Unlimited > http://simcrash.00game.com

Unfortunately, I think more and more users will be 'tailgunners.' As the 2nd and 3rd generations of Nintendo and Playstation drivers graduate to computers, they will bring the skills honed from years of driving behind the car. One of SCGT's most glaring weakness was the fact they had NO dash until very late in development(thank the beta testers for getting one in.) It really should be the CORE of a sim. All the feedback, the visual cues, the sounds, are in the cockpit...not floating like a kite behind the car. I'm pleased for you Dan that you can run so well using the arcade view. I just have this very personal bias against that....not the folks who use it...just I'm pretending to be a race driver...not a race kite...If I was 10 seconds faster in tailgunner mode I'd still give up that speed cuz when I'm in the cockpit, I'm 'driving' the car. When I'm floating behind it, I'm just moving it from side to side. Dave Henrie "I'm not a BAD race car driver, but I play one on my computer."

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> >>Watch it Dave... I'm a proud ARCADE VIEW USER! :) > >> > > > >It *that* how you're so fast in ICR2??? <g> > > > >Eldred > > Yes. hehe > > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher

I am a back seat driver as well, but not ashamed of it - quite simply, I'm faster that way. Being faster gives me a better chance of winning, and the current top man in the business certainly supports the attitude 'do anything to win'. (I haven't yet sussed how to nudge opposition off the track without damaging my own lap, though - that must be advanced stuff!). -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.217 / Virus Database: 102 - Release Date: 01/12/00

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> <snip> > (I haven't yet sussed how to nudge opposition off the > track without damaging my own lap, though - that must > be advanced stuff!). > -- > Laurence Wilmer > [email hidden]

>"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Definately. I was told during practice for a league race last year > that I had to try the chicane flat out. After lifting a little bit to > settle the car over the crest, i floored it, almost closed my eyes and > pushed through it. Very satisfying, although, when I get it right the > adrenalie rush makes me forget to brake for Tabac :) That's about it for me also ;-) I'm sorry but after two years of extensive GPL racing I simply can't master that chicane if I had my life depending on it. 9 times out of 10 I will pass the Monaco chicane without a problem, but there is still 10% left where I just crash. Still, I always said that the Monaco chicane is wrongly modeled in GPL. It wasn't like that back in 67. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.