GPL: Top 6 corners where races are fucked up most

Hi! Having read this thread: news:9304r2$db0$[email hidden] I got the idea to post the following list which shows my personal top 6 of corners where my races are ended by others or where I fuck up races of others ;): 1) Curva Grande, Monza, especially in lap 1 2) Tarzanbocht, Zandvoort 3) Nouveau Monde, Rouen 4) Lesmo 1, Monza, especially in lap 1 in cases where 1) doesn't happen ;) 5) Parabolica, Monza, especially with AI 6) Crowthorne Corner, Kyalami And you? Regards Crash -- http://www.crashmania.de http://www.joachimblum.de (under construction) "Leute, die denken, es sei toll, ein Genie zu sein, haben sich noch nie vor Augen gef�hrt, wie l�stig dann all diese Idioten auf der Welt sein m�ssen."

"Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:93ajh6$n0i$07$[email hidden]...

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> Hi! > Having read this thread: news:9304r2$db0$[email hidden] I got the >idea to post the following list which shows my personal top 6 of corners >where my races are ended by others or where I fuck up races of others ;): > > 1) Curva Grande, Monza, especially in lap 1 > 2) Tarzanbocht, Zandvoort > 3) Nouveau Monde, Rouen > 4) Lesmo 1, Monza, especially in lap 1 in cases where 1) doesn't happen ;) > 5) Parabolica, Monza, especially with AI > 6) Crowthorne Corner, Kyalami > > And you? > > Regards > Crash

Interesting that 3 of your top six are at what is 'beleived' to be the easiest track in GPL. As for #5, it is only a problem if a certain White Honda is anywhere within 2 miles(:>) of your braking point... dave henrie

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:28:21 +0100, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi! > >Having read this thread: news:9304r2$db0$[email hidden] I got the idea >to post the following list which shows my personal top 6 of corners where my >races are ended by others or where I fuck up races of others ;): > >1) Curva Grande, Monza, especially in lap 1 >2) Tarzanbocht, Zandvoort >3) Nouveau Monde, Rouen >4) Lesmo 1, Monza, especially in lap 1 in cases where 1) doesn't happen ;) >5) Parabolica, Monza, especially with AI >6) Crowthorne Corner, Kyalami >

1) Corner 1 Nurnburgring 2) Corner 1 Silverstone 3) Start of Kyalami (right after the start the road gets narrower) 4) Corner 1 Bugatti 5) Corner 1 Watkins Glen 6) Hairpin Monaco 6.5) Masta Spa Andre

I would say that every damn inch from the grid to the exit out of turn one on all tracks is a major problem on VROC. I would also like to point out that there notheing wrong with the tracks... the problem is that people dont seem to understand that you dont win a race on the first lap - you win it on the last. Ed_

I absolutely agree....no race is won on the first bend.....it constantly amazes me that the VROC drivers head flat out into the first bend of (insert any track here) and then complain bitterly that its not their fault when there is a major pileup. Then again overtaking on VROC is fraught with danger as well:) "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9jl66.13715$[email hidden]... > I would say that every damn inch from the grid to the exit out of turn one > on all tracks is a major problem on VROC. > > I would also like to point out that there notheing wrong with thetracks... > the problem is that people dont seem to understand that you dont win arace > on the first lap - you win it on the last. > > Ed_ > >

Eldred ran some GP-length races a while back that were the exact opposite. Everybody was on tippy-toes the first couple of laps. Very polite, and still lots of fun. The problem is two-fold: first is good old "red haze" - you get excited and forget about cold tires. Secondly, many people don't practise driving off the "best" line, so when they go in two-wide they don't know what to do. "Richie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gep66.19024$[email hidden]... > I absolutely agree....no race is won on the first bend.....it constantly > amazes me that the VROC drivers head flat out into the first bend of > (insert any track here) and then complain bitterly that its not theirfault > when there is a major pileup. Then again overtaking on VROC is fraughtwith > danger as well:) > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9jl66.13715$[email hidden]... > > I would say that every damn inch from the grid to the exit out of turnone

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> > on all tracks is a major problem on VROC. > > > > I would also like to point out that there notheing wrong with the > tracks... > > the problem is that people dont seem to understand that you dont win a > race > > on the first lap - you win it on the last. > > > > Ed_ > > > > > >

I suppose you havn't watched modern F1...with such little passing, many races can be won on the start...or at least positions can be changed dramatically that stuck throughout the race. As Carroll Smith says, every position you gain in qualifying or on the start is one less person you have to pass to win the race. Isn't it easier to win a race when you are leading on the start vs last place on the start? People just go about the starts the wrong way. Passing is ok, but it is only good if you pass cleanly, no dive bomb passes into T1, no 3 wide...make a move, let it stick, and stay within your limits. It can all work out, you just have to race drivers that know the limits. JB "Richie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gep66.19024$[email hidden]... > I absolutely agree....no race is won on the first bend.....it constantly > amazes me that the VROC drivers head flat out into the first bend of > (insert any track here) and then complain bitterly that its not theirfault > when there is a major pileup. Then again overtaking on VROC is fraughtwith > danger as well:) > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9jl66.13715$[email hidden]... > > I would say that every damn inch from the grid to the exit out of turnone

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> > on all tracks is a major problem on VROC. > > > > I would also like to point out that there notheing wrong with the > tracks... > > the problem is that people dont seem to understand that you dont win a > race > > on the first lap - you win it on the last. > > > > Ed_ > > > > > >

In article <93ajh6$n0i$07$[email hidden]>, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> writes: > 5) Parabolica, Monza, especially with AI What is it with the AI and Parabolica anyway? The only way I get through here reliably against the AI without being punted on braking is to be in last place. And I don't think I brake *that* early. Marc

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:

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>1) Corner 1 Nurnburgring >2) Corner 1 Silverstone >3) Start of Kyalami (right after the start the road gets narrower) >4) Corner 1 Bugatti >5) Corner 1 Watkins Glen >6) Hairpin Monaco >6.5) Masta Spa >

1)Rouen - the hairpin and the left-hander before it 2)Monaco - chicane 3)Spa - Masta I don't have a problem with the rest unless I'm TRYING to go fast. The above screw me up sometimes even if I'm just cruising... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote > I suppose you havn't watched modern F1...with such little passing, many > races can be won on the start. But we aren't racing modern F1. We are Gentlemens racing an unstable platform where contact can often mean havoc for more people then reality. It's just using common sense to stop thinking about selfish actions on starts and think about having a good start for all. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 03:00:27 GMT, [email hidden] (Marc Fraioli) wrote:

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>In article <93ajh6$n0i$07$[email hidden]>, > "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> writes: >> 5) Parabolica, Monza, especially with AI > >What is it with the AI and Parabolica anyway? The only way I get through >here reliably against the AI without being punted on braking is to be >in last place. And I don't think I brake *that* early.

During a normal race this isn't a real problem, you can brake just as late as the AI, but especially during the beginning of a full GP race against the AI this is a problem. With cold tires and a full tank you have to brake way sooner than the AI does.. Andre > Marc

In article <u5z66.40202$n%[email hidden]>, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >"Wosco" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I suppose you havn't watched modern F1...with such little passing,many > > races can be won on the start. > > But we aren't racing modern F1. Quite ... I got a video of old newsreel footage of GP racing for Christmas and one item on a Monaco GP in the 60s commented on the front 2 drivers exchanging the lead on virtually every lap. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/