OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", or interested in Sly Stallone's new film, "Driven," check out these sites... For "GP": http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html For "Driven" (it includes a clip): http://movies.warnerbros.com/driven/cmp/video-fr.html --Steve Smith

Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer. Is that bad (as in awful) or what! Michael "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4TL66.23324$[email hidden]...

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> If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", or interested in Sly > Stallone's new film, "Driven," check out these sites... > > For "GP": > > http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html > > For "Driven" (it includes a clip): > > http://movies.warnerbros.com/driven/cmp/video-fr.html > > --Steve Smith > > > > > >

>If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", >http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html > Wow, that's really a great read. Lots of interesting stuff I never knew about the movie. Hey Steve, didn't you use to play drums for Journey? :) Larry Haines

Michael, Larry, No, I used to manage the Kennedy family's money. Now I race under the nom de drive "Beau Brandenberg," the Stallone's driver in Driven." But yer right--"Driven" looks like una bomba. The "Grand Prix" piece was apparently written when Stallone still hoped to make "Driven" as a F1 movie. I'm sure Bernie's grinders talked him out of it. CART musta been cheap--they think 500 fans in the stands is a "crowd." There are probably more hours spent playing "GPL" every year than watching the FedEx Championship, huh? --Steve HainesLC <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", > > >http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html > > > > Wow, that's really a great read. Lots of interesting stuff I never knewabout > the movie. > > Hey Steve, didn't you use to play drums for Journey? :) > > Larry Haines >

Driven really looks like crap doesn't it? It also claims to be the first open-wheel racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966. What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's? Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously. -Nick Michael Veldman <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer. > Is that bad (as in awful) or what! > Michael > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4TL66.23324$[email hidden]... >> If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", or interested in Sly >> Stallone's new film, "Driven," check out these sites... >> >> For "GP": >> >> http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html >> >> For "Driven" (it includes a clip): >> >> http://movies.warnerbros.com/driven/cmp/video-fr.html >> >> --Steve Smith >> >> >> >> >> >>

Nick, The original claim was that "Driven" was going to be the first F1 movie since 1966 (altho wasn't "Grand Prix" actually *released* in '67?; the footage in the picture was *shot* during the '66 season), but with the prices Bernie is charging to even whisper the magic words, the next F1 movie prolly won't be til 2066. Besides the egregious "Bobby Deerfield," there was also the 1969 clunker "Winning," from which I got my first online nom de drive, Luther Erhard (Bob Wagner's Snively Whiplash-ish protagonist to P.L. Newman's Indy car driver, Frank Capua). Man, there have been some baaaaaaaaaaaad racing movies! Remember "The Racers"? "I'm leakin' oil, Gino...." --Steve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:93h35c$15vv$[email hidden]...

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> Driven really looks like crap doesn't it? > > It also claims to be the first open-wheel > racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966. > > What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's? > Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously. > > -Nick > > > > Michael Veldman <[email hidden]> wrote: > > Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer. > > Is that bad (as in awful) or what! > > > Michael >

I haven't seen The Racers, but with a line like that I might have to track it down :) -Nick Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Nick, > The original claim was that "Driven" was going to be the first F1 movie > since 1966 (altho wasn't "Grand Prix" actually *released* in '67?; the > footage in the picture was *shot* during the '66 season), but with the > prices Bernie is charging to even whisper the magic words, the next F1 movie > prolly won't be til 2066. > Besides the egregious "Bobby Deerfield," there was also the 1969 clunker > "Winning," from which I got my first online nom de drive, Luther Erhard (Bob > Wagner's Snively Whiplash-ish protagonist to P.L. Newman's Indy car driver, > Frank Capua). > Man, there have been some baaaaaaaaaaaad racing movies! Remember "The > Racers"? "I'm leakin' oil, Gino...." > --Steve > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:93h35c$15vv$[email hidden]... >> Driven really looks like crap doesn't it? >> >> It also claims to be the first open-wheel >> racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966. >> >> What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's? >> Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously. >> >> -Nick >> >> >> >> Michael Veldman <[email hidden]> wrote: >> > Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer. >> > Is that bad (as in awful) or what! >> >> > Michael >>

Ouch, Steve! Even though I'm an IRL fan, that hurt! I admit that CART and the IRL need to mend some fences soon -- both series have a lot to offer, but working against each other is only hurting open wheel racing in the U.S., which means that in the end, nobody wins. Still, that WAS a bit harsh -- CART still puts on some great races, and they do manage to pack in the fans at places like Long Beach. Zanardi's return in 2001 should make up for the loss of Montoya, so don't count CART as dead yet. Quite a shame that they couldn't retain Bobby Rahal as their CEO, though. -- JB In article <QnR66.27045$[email hidden]>, "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Michael, Larry, > > No, I used to manage the Kennedy family's money. Now I race underthe nom > de drive "Beau Brandenberg," the Stallone's driver in Driven." Butyer > right--"Driven" looks like una bomba. The "Grand Prix" piece wasapparently > written when Stallone still hoped to make "Driven" as a F1 movie.I'm sure > Bernie's grinders talked him out of it. CART musta been cheap--theythink > 500 fans in the stands is a "crowd." There are probably more hoursspent

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> playing "GPL" every year than watching the FedEx Championship, huh? > > --Steve > > HainesLC <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", > > > > >http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html > > > > > > > Wow, that's really a great read. Lots of interesting stuff I never

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In article <93imnb$kd1$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] writes: >Zanardi's return in 2001 should make up for the loss of Montoya, so >don't count CART as dead yet. Too bad they're not in the same series. Two exciting drivers like that would do WONDERS. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>No, I used to manage the Kennedy family's money. I always wondered what the hell went on there. Knew it was something fishy. That explains alot, thanks!!!!!!! Larry