GPL: if it's free soon, why not put it on the Net

Hi, If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so why not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? grtngs, hgrm

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> Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so

why > not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > The German mag have probably gotten permission from Papy to release the German version (maybe for a nice profit for Papy, I don't know) so it's all hunky dory. Uploading the whole English (or other) version to your own site with no permission for fee is warez.

GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag "PC Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of January SZ

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>Hi, > >If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could >someone remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal >(and defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > >I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so >why not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away >anyhow?? > >grtngs, >hgrm > >

Actually, Sierra have re released GPL! Its a "Sierra Original", which is the game reboxed, with the manuals as pdf (i think, as i've not bought it!) So, the game isn't abandonware yet. - brian

"Stefan Zscharnack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asp86.4241$[email hidden]... > GPL Full Version will be included on the Cover-CD-Rom of the german Mag"PC > Action" 02/2001, which will hit the newsstands in Germany on the 17th. of > January > SZ > Is anyone going to do that in the UK? -- Phil http://sis.bris.ac.uk/~pn8013 "Wit is educated insolence. " - Aristotle

The german magazine is free? JB "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:93t580$c8l$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so

why > not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > > grtngs, > hgrm > >

It's really quite simple -- it's not yours to give away. If Sierra decides to make it freely distributable over the net (not very likely) then so be it. But it is their property and they have the right to decide what to do with it. If you give it away without their permission, it is illegal. Todd -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Todd Walker Nikon Coolpix 950 picture pages: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=184230&Auth=false Email: [email hidden] Homepage: http://twalker.d2g.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:93t580$c8l$[email hidden]... > Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so why > not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > > grtngs, > hgrm > >

because in the same magazine you will probably find a VERY nice review on nascar4, AND some nice adverstisement for it too. It's called a bargain....you give me this, I give you that... Now if you have something that papyrus DESPERATELY want, then maybe you can negotiate GPL on your website, with all versions and patches, and if they REALLY REALLY want what you have then maybe GPL 2 ? "Han Monsees" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: 93t580$c8l$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so

why

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> not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > > grtngs, > hgrm > > >

I spent most of 97 in germany and became familiar with the mag I think your talking about. They release 3 versions of this mag available. The normal mag (just the mag), the CD edition (Usual Demos, videos, etc..), The Full Version edition (Complete Fullversion game and the demo cd's from the CD edition). Now the normal version was about 5 marks the cd 7 and the full version was 20 marks. So as you can see it is not free! They have a full game on that version of the mag every month. Obviously they strike up deals with game co's or distributors to effecively sell older games with the magazine at a cheaper price. 20 marks isnt bad for a older game and a magazine?? I would assume that they give papy or whoever a share of that 20 for selling the game with it. Effectively you are buying the magazine with the bonus software and on top of that gpl is being re release on budget and on top of that aswell sierra still exists as a company and has revenue (no matter how small) to lose from people getting the game without paying for it. I hope thats correct? If anybody from germany wants to correct me after all it was a few years ago just say so. Hope that clears it up for you. Berno Han Monsees <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:93t580$c8l$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so

why > not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > > grtngs, > hgrm > >

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> > Hi, > > If GPL will be given away to buyers of that German magazine (could someone > remind me which mag it is?), then it must be not too illegal (and > defendable) to put the whole sim onto someone's website. > > I read regularly that people have a hard time finding a copy of GPL, so why > not put is somewhere for download if they are giving it away anyhow?? > > grtngs, > hgrm

It really isn't a matter of whether you got your copy for free or paid for it, it all boils down to the licence agreement. If the licence agreement says you cannot distribute your copy further, then doing so is illegal no matter what you paid for the licence. -Gregor

Gregor Veble wrote on 15 Jan 2001: <snip> >If the licence >agreement says you cannot distribute your copy further, then doing so is >illegal no matter what you paid for the licence. MInd you, most licences seem to make out that doing anything at all is illegal... I wonder if anyone has tried an action under the (UK) Unfair Contract Terms Act ;-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92) The GPL Scrapyard - http://scrapyard.netcabins.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:52:46 GMT, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Now the normal version was about 5 marks the cd 7 and the full version was >20 marks. How much is that in U$D? ~daxe

In article <[email hidden]>, daxe <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:52:46 GMT, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Now the normal version was about 5 marks the cd 7 and the fullversion was > >20 marks. > > How much is that in U$D? > > ~daxe It's $9.60 US rounded down. (Sorry if this is a double post) Dan. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

In article <[email hidden]>, daxe <[email hidden]> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:52:46 GMT, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Now the normal version was about 5 marks the cd 7 and the fullversion was > >20 marks. > > How much is that in U$D? > > ~daxe It's $9.60 US rounded down. (Sorry if this is a double post) Dan. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

I think somewhere in the neighbourhood of 10 US$ Lars G. On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:03:11 GMT, daxe <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:52:46 GMT, "Berno" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Now the normal version was about 5 marks the cd 7 and the full version was >>20 marks. > >How much is that in U$D? > > > >~daxe

"Wosco" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:JBq86.18639$[email hidden]... > The german magazine is free? > Nah, cost me $5 today. Would've paid more but they wouldn't let me. Greets Tom